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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
23 May 2017, 06:52
#1
23 May 2017, 06:52#1
A suicide bomb attack killing 19 people at a concert and circa 50 wounded.  Is it safe anywhere in the world?
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CleanCutPro9,905 posts
23 May 2017, 08:49
#2
23 May 2017, 08:49#2
 
Well ... if you're stupid enough to flood the continent with filthy muslims then you should be prepared for the chaos that follows.




 
DA
Devil's AdvocatePro7,008 posts
23 May 2017, 09:30
#3
23 May 2017, 09:30#3

All in the name of "Allah"


What god supports the bombing of young teenagers at a Pop concert, or anywhere else for that matter.


Sick...... 22 now confirmed dead.  

CL
CleanCutPro9,905 posts
23 May 2017, 10:33
#4
23 May 2017, 10:33#4
 
Tragic.

Allah is just an excuse to murder. These filthy muslims are no more pious than a can of baked beans.



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ABasquefanPro2,549 posts
23 May 2017, 13:24
#5
23 May 2017, 13:24#5
 depicable racist,.... it's simply repugnant that you blame a whole community for what some very few of them have done,.... shows also total ignorance behind all those racist feelings

there wasn't any yihadism (or muslim terrorism) until the filthy US government began to support the Muslim Brotherhood (and related radical groups which were insignificant at the time) in the 50's.
Besides supporting, funding, arming and trainning these then small radical groups, the US let and encourage Saudi Arabia to create and fund thousands of madrashas to spread the wahhabism (the most funadamentalist version of Islam, origin of the head chopping, lashing, hand chopping and all those things so trendy nowadays) all over the muslim world.
Untill then the wahhabism was consider by the rest of the muslims like a sect followed by four lunatics in the arabian desert. Now the wahhabism is spread through the whole muslim world, from Mauritania to Indonesia and its melting with the Muslim Brotherhood (and related groups) gave rise to the current yihadist terrorist groups. The USA trained and armed these groups beginning with the mujahideen in Afghanistan, then Al-Qaeda and bin Laden (trained by the CIA) first in Afghanistan and later all over the muslim world, and finally, ISIS

It's the filthy US empire, stupid!!!

Meanwhile the US president, the Donald, this week made the single largest arms deal in US history worth $350 Billion with Saudi Arabia
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-05-20/trump-signs-single-largest-arms-deal-us-history-saudi-arabia-350-billion-over-ten-ye

The same Saudi Arabia recognized by the US authorities as the main terrorist sponsor in the world,..... this meaning more arms for the terrorists





very tragic

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Devil's AdvocatePro7,008 posts
23 May 2017, 13:56
#6
23 May 2017, 13:56#6

Truly amazing.... isn't it....... that hardly any Grand Imam's, Grand Mufti's, Ayatollah's or even the regular Imam's, are not speaking out worldwide about these atrocities that ISIS fight and stand for, and commit every single day...... in the sacred and holy name of Allah.


Let's all blame the USA, or the UK, or France, or Australia or the other 50 countries which are currently fighting ISIS right now, every day,  with these four countries listed here.


Pathetic


Let's just play the blame game........

 

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
23 May 2017, 14:11
#7
23 May 2017, 14:11#7
A nail bomb to attack teenage girls......despicable.
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XaviPro1,924 posts
23 May 2017, 15:29
#8
23 May 2017, 15:29#8
 So I suppose acid attacks, honor killings and sex slave trafficking are The Wests' fault too. 
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ABasquefanPro2,549 posts
23 May 2017, 15:46
#9
23 May 2017, 15:46#9
 https://reportuk.org/2017/05/23/muslims-unite-to-condemn-ariana-grande-manchester-terror-attack/

Muslims unite to condemn Ariana Grande Manchester terror attack By Metro - May 23, 2017

Muslims have come together to condemn the Manchester terror attack which left 22 dead (Picture: Getty Images)

Hundreds of Muslims have come out to condemn the terror attack in Manchester Arena last night which left 22 dead and 59 injured.


As it emerged that the explosion after the Ariana Grande concert on Monday evening was a terror attack, many people were quick to blame Muslims.

The truth was very different as dozens of Muslims in Manchester rushed to help those caught up in the attack.

Muslim taxi drivers turned off their meters and offered free rides to people, Muslim NHS workers worked throughout the night treating the injured and Muslim locals offered up rooms for free.

Many UK Muslim groups have since condemned the attack.

(examples in the link above)


The Muslim Council of Britain called the Manchester attack ‘horrific’ and ‘criminal’.

Harun Khan, the Secretary General, said: ‘May the perpetrators face the full weight of justice both in this life and the next.

‘I pay tribute to the police and emergency services who have worked valiantly to save lives last night.

‘I urge all those in the region and around the country to pull together to support those affected.’


Others have highlighted just how much the community have done in the wake of the attack.

The Muslim community went above and beyond to help in any way they could:

((examples in the link above))

MORE: Vigil to be held for Manchester terror attack victims in Albert Square at 6pm

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Devil's AdvocatePro7,008 posts
23 May 2017, 16:39
#10
23 May 2017, 16:39#10
ABasquefan

Status: Senior player
Posts: 2303 RE: Manchester under attack
May 23, 2017, 15:46:01

 https://reportuk.org/2017/05/23/muslims-unite-to-condemn-ariana-grande-manchester-terror-attack/

Muslims unite to condemn Ariana Grande Manchester terror attack

By Metro - May 23, 2017

Muslims have come together to condemn the Manchester terror attack which left 22 dead (Picture: Getty Images)

Hundreds of Muslims have come out to condemn the terror attack in Manchester Arena last night which left 22 dead and 59 injured.


As it emerged that the explosion after the Ariana Grande concert on Monday evening was a terror attack, many people were quick to blame Muslims.

The truth was very different as dozens of Muslims in Manchester rushed to help those caught up in the attack.

Muslim taxi drivers turned off their meters and offered free rides to people, Muslim NHS workers worked throughout the night treating the injured and Muslim locals offered up rooms for free.

Many UK Muslim groups have since condemned the attack.

(examples in the link above)


The Muslim Council of Britain called the Manchester attack ‘horrific’ and ‘criminal’.

Harun Khan, the Secretary General, said: ‘May the perpetrators face the full weight of justice both in this life and the next.

‘I pay tribute to the police and emergency services who have worked valiantly to save lives last night.

‘I urge all those in the region and around the country to pull together to support those affected.’


Others have highlighted just how much the community have done in the wake of the attack.

The Muslim community went above and beyond to help in any way they could:

((examples in the link above))

MORE: Vigil to be held for Manchester terror attack victims in Albert Square at 6pm

 

"Hundreds of Muslims have come out to the streets in Manchester to condemn this attack"


Oh please......I will reiterate what I asked earlier


How many Grand Imam's, Grand Mufti's, Ayatollah's or even the regular Imam's have made regular national and international speeches condemning this on going behaviour by ISIS?


How many of these senior ranking officials have preached to all their Muslim youngsters, to not follow ISIS, as this is not true Islam.


How many have openly discussed or released statements saying that the West is not the enemy of Muslims..... but ISIS is the enemy of Muslims and Islam.


Some have previously done this, in varying degrees of sincerity or intervals, but none at all have been remotely vocal about it on a regular basis and condemning it, as they should. 


Why has no real known world movement not been created by Muslims to dispel the ideas or notions that ISIS stands for and is Islam.


If there were any concerns about all these young children becoming suicide bombers, why has nothing been made internationally public that "You will not go to Heaven and receive 40 virgins if you do this


In fact it is a farce and a joke.


According to you ABasquefan, this is all the USA's fault for arming these demons from the 50's.


Beheading kids in front of their parents

Raping wives in front of their husbands and children

Beheading adults

Beheading their own soldiers for wanting to leave, surrender

Throwing g.a.y people off high rise buildings

Crucifying people

Raping kids

Raping pregnant mothers

Forcing kids to kill their brothers and sisters one by one

Forcing kids to kill their parents in front of each other

Forcing 6 year olds to behead soldiers

Gang raping girls from age 9

Selling 9 - 18 year old girls to more than 10 different owners

Disfiguring children


That is just some of the things these twisted and sick b. astards have been proven to have already done.


And this was all because of the U.S.A... arming some factions.... way back when.


Complete and utter Bollocks





 


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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
23 May 2017, 18:06
#11
23 May 2017, 18:06#11
Listening to Theresa May this morning she said: 'we will not change our values'. Nice, but what does that mean. If this thing was scaled up 100 times eg with a dirty bomb......do we still not change our views. So many platitudes uttered by people who haven't lost loved ones. . To blame others for this barbarity is fooling nobody.
sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,260 posts
23 May 2017, 19:24
#12
23 May 2017, 19:24#12
There is no resolution in sight. What do the terrorists want, what are their goals?
The bombers are all brainwashed fanatics- but they could also be receiving funding from Muslim states, or otherwise.  The best solution might be to stop trading with Muslim countries- and remove all armies from these countries. If the West is not involved with the Muslim countries maybe they would stop the terrorist attacks. 
No under the table deals- so "if" any trading was to be done- it would be in the public domain. I am not sure I trust the politicians to do international deals that are under the table. 
Selling weapons to them seems very counterproductive, as is taking sides. America has sided and funded sides, only for these people to become future enemies.
The Irak/Saddam Hussein saga was a total disaster. No weapons of mass destruction, but all that has happened is Irak is now worse than what it was. If one was to have lived in Irak during the time Saddam was overthrown from power- some would have negative feelings- as there were lots of Irakian casualties- not just military. 
It was a bit like Vietnam where the reports that justified the invasion- have proven to be very inaccurate. '
 It the West can prove they are not interfering with Muslim countries- and thereafter still get problems- then the Police within Western Counties might need to be given more power to investigate Muslim people. 
It is unfair on the majority of Muslims, but it will help improve security.
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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
23 May 2017, 20:25
#13
23 May 2017, 20:25#13
 The big here to be careful of is taqiyya  - the koranic doctrine whereby muslims can lie to the infidels. Islam has always talked with two voices to confuse the infidels. There are two Houses . The house of peace - all muslims and the house of war where muslims must fight the infidels.Some people think one can reason with islam. But the foundational problem is the 164 jihadist verses in the koran. Also sharia law in not compatible with Western Civilization. Muslims have no desire to assimilate with the disgusting infidels. They create no go areas or areas which they rule. They work tirelessly towards taking over.Now the muslims and the globalist have one big common goal.Both want to destroy Western Civilization.  Hence the globalists inviting the muslims into Europe. George Soros has said that Western Civilization must be destroyed before they can implement the globalist NWO. He has also said that the USA is the greatest impediment to the establishment of their NWO.A free, successful, prosperous western type democracy will never surrender its sovereignty to global type institutions or supranational institutions like the EU.The globalists have suffered two major blows recently - BREXIT and TRUMP. They are running scared of the growing populist/nationalism sweeping Europe as the EU falls apart.Trum*p is a nationalist who says MAGA and America First. He says no to open borders where anybody can simply walk into the USA. For this reason the globalist owned MSM are trying to get him impeached etc. The hatred is like nothing ever before as Trump threatens the globalist NWO. 
Also understand regarding Russia. Putin has kicked the Rothschilds out of Russia and has a warrant out for the arrest of open borders globalist George Soros. The globalists hate Russia because Russia is an independent NATION who rejects their NWO.
Key ways in  which globalists use to bring down a nation state include mass immig ration so eventually the natives are in a minority. Multicuturalism and diversity politics setting one group against another. The other is massive national debt etc etc.Europe and the USA are grappling what to do with islam. Liberal ideals are not working when confronted with this monster.The fact is unless you destroy the Koran muslims will always beat war with infidels. The only real solution is to deport all muslims and send them abck to countries of origin. Europe and The USA are not quite there yet but the attitude to these barabric people are changing.Hijra - the muslim doctrine of jihad by invasion is becoming understood.So is the huge threat these muslims are to all so called infidels. naturally the globalist owned media are fighting tooth and nail to cover up what islam is all about and using words like Islamophobia etc to demonize anybody speaking out. They are failing due to nothing else than the actions of muslims. Every 9 days there is an attack someplace in Europe. This will increase as more and more muslims are invited in by Merkel and Macron and are allowed to spread over Europe.People in Europe and the USA fortunately are very much more aware of islam and its horrors and events such as Manchester increase the understanding of what islam has been for 1400 years.The tide is turning rapidly against islam but a great deal of damage has been done and the fight has only begun.




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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
23 May 2017, 20:28
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23 May 2017, 20:28#14
 This clip gives an indication of how views about islam are changing  and how people are speaking out!



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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
23 May 2017, 20:29
#15
23 May 2017, 20:29#15
 BREAKING NEWS: Manchester bomber is named as British Libyan jihadist Salman Abedi who killed 22 - including a girl aged EIGHT - in terror attack on  packed Ariana Grande concert
  • Ball bearing bomb detonated at pop concert killed 22 people and injured at least 119 others last night
  • Bomber has been named as Salman Abedi, said to be a British citizen of Libyan origin who lived in Manchester


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4531940/Emergency-services-rush-Manchester-Arena.html#ixzz4hvbEwTiu 
Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook
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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
23 May 2017, 20:33
#16
23 May 2017, 20:33#16
 Teddy bears, tears, candles, cartoons, murals, mosaics, flowers, flags, projections, hashtags, balloons, wreaths, lights, vigils, scarves, and more. These are the best solutions the Western world seems to come up with every few months when we are slammed by another Islamist terrorist attack. We are our own sickness.

They are the same words I wrote on March 23rd, 2016, just over one year ago, after coordinated suicide bombing attacks in the NATO/European Union capital of Brussels, Belgium, which left 32 dead and 340 injured.

Last night, another 22 people died, and at least another 60 have been injured at a former Disney star’s concert in Manchester, England.

The targeting of an audience predominantly comprised of young girls should haunt even the most callous of cynics, and the most relativist of liberals. But it won’t.

Already we have witnessed large news sites demanding Britain refuse to change its approach to terrorism and extremism. Just keep sucking it up. Keep watching your friends and family die. After all, according to London’s mayor, terrorism is “part and parcel” of everyday urban life, right?

All of it, ultimately, is a distraction. I don’t know if it’s meant to be or not. But it is a massive distraction from the facts of this case. And the reality of European life today.

Let’s take 2017 alone so far.

Yesterday marked the 142nd day of 2017.

There have been, this year, at least 15 attempted terrorist attacks on European, British, or West Russian soil, killing dozens, and injuring hundreds.

That’s one attack attempted every 9 days in Europe.

Think about that.

ONE ATTACK EVERY NINE DAYS.

In the meantime, the Independent website wants us to “carry on exactly as before”(OBVIOUSLY A GLOBALIST WEBSITE)

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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
23 May 2017, 20:38
#17
23 May 2017, 20:38#17
 

Salman Abedi, the suicide bomber behind the deadly Manchester Arena bombing Monday night, was reportedly already known to security services but was not judged to be a threat – making Manchester the latest European city to be hit by a terror attack committed by someone known to authorities.

Authorities revealed the identity of the suspected suicide bomber Tuesday afternoon, hours after the Libyan origin British citizen was named by CBS News.

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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
23 May 2017, 20:43
#18
23 May 2017, 20:43#18
 Quite simple Basque. The World have to say: " We have a problem with Radical Islam. We are not safe as a result of their terrorism.  We can't safely discern who is safe and who's radical. Sorry for the 90% who's decent folks, but the 10% who are not, is just too dangerous to ignore. Sorry, we have to close our borders, untill we get to grips with the problem. Until then you can't get in and those of you already here must go back. We know it's unfair, but it's even more unfair to our citizens to leave things as they are...sorry, we'll get back to you when we have a solution to the problem."...sounds familiar?
You will obviously not like my take on things, but before you call me racist or bigot, go explain the loss of their 8 yo daughter to her groeving parents.
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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
23 May 2017, 20:46
#19
23 May 2017, 20:46#19
 The difficult choice is mostly the right choice 90% of the time and if you're getting lots of flack, you're probably close to the target, not?
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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
23 May 2017, 21:22
#20
23 May 2017, 21:22#20
 
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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
23 May 2017, 21:23
#21
23 May 2017, 21:23#21
 
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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
23 May 2017, 21:25
#22
23 May 2017, 21:25#22
 Great post Draad and what you say cannot be disputed.
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ABasquefanPro2,549 posts
23 May 2017, 22:40
#23
23 May 2017, 22:40#23
 Dbdraad,
i'm not going to call you anything,.... you can read it by yourself from a history professor:

Trvmp’s ban on Muslims echoes earliest days of Nazi propaganda: expert

and apart from being completely contrary to the basic principles of any legislation to punish a collective (banning or expulsing them) for what some individuals have done, it would be completely useless. Only stopping the funding, training and arming of those groups could end the terrorism. Only stopping the US government and its close ally, the feudal Saudi monarchy, could end the terrorism.

but now they have signaled the largest arms deal in US history worth $350 Billion



US authorities have recognized Saudi Arabia as the main sponsor of the terrorism in countless cables released by Wikileaks and even many US authorities have publicly recognized it






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ABasquefanPro2,549 posts
23 May 2017, 22:46
#24
23 May 2017, 22:46#24
 @DA,

"Oh please", read, understand and try to retain before answering

The Muslim Council of Britain (MCB), established in 1997, is an umbrella body for 500 mosques, schools and associations in Britain. It includes national, regional, local, and specialist Muslim organisations and institutions from different ethnic and sectarian backgrounds within British Islamic society.


"And this was all because of the U.S.A... arming some factions.... way back when."

Nope,... this was all because the USA since the 50's (and not stopped since then) have been funding, trainning and arming all the main groups like the mujahideen, all sort of Al-Qaedas (Al-Qaeda means "the net" and it was referred to the CIA's net of informants), ISIS, etc.
And at the same time they let and encourage Saudi Arabia to spend $billions creating thousands madrasas all over the muslim countries which are the pool for recruiting new terrorists.

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WardadPro6,663 posts
23 May 2017, 23:04
#25
23 May 2017, 23:04#25
 Pretty damn sad and an atrocity to for sure .But Drumpf  selling hundreds of billions in arms to other Muslims in the form of the Saudis is plain stupid ,and anyone stupid enough to pour petrol on a fire will surely end up burnt.Its sad but true that depriving terrorists of  air time in the media deprives them of their only weapon .
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DennyCaptain12,893 posts
24 May 2017, 05:20
#26
24 May 2017, 05:20#26
 I've always believed that the west has adopted the wrong approach to dealing with terrorism. The only way to stop a suicide bomber is to penetrate their inner wall of security and for that you need the cooperation and assistance of moderate muslims.The west needs to understand that the only way to win is to completely isolate terrorist  from the main.
DA
Devil's AdvocatePro7,008 posts
24 May 2017, 08:57
#27
24 May 2017, 08:57#27

 

ABasquefan

Status: Senior player
Posts: 2306 RE: Manchester under attack
May 23, 2017, 22:46:17

 @DA,

"Oh please", read, understand and try to retain before answering

The Muslim Council of Britain (MCB), established in 1997, is an umbrella body for 500 mosques, schools and associations in Britain. It includes national, regional, local, and specialist Muslim organisations and institutions from different ethnic and sectarian backgrounds within British Islamic society.


"And this was all because of the U.S.A... arming some factions.... way back when."

Nope,... this was all because the USA since the 50's (and not stopped since then) have been funding, trainning and arming all the main groups like the mujahideen, all sort of Al-Qaedas (Al-Qaeda means "the net" and it was referred to the CIA's net of informants), ISIS, etc.
And at the same time they let and encourage Saudi Arabia to spend $billions creating thousands madrasas all over the muslim countries which are the pool for recruiting new terrorists.


Basque, maybe you are the one who should read and try and understand...


"The Muslim Council of Britain (MCB), established in 1997, is an umbrella body for 500 mosques"


Really...... and what do they do in between these terror attacks.... why do they only respond when something happens?.  As I said, why aren't they speaking out publicly on a regular basis against these radical Muslim terrorists... who most times preach hate speech against Britain and the USA on the very same street corners in Britain where these 500 mosques are?..... but cannot be deported because it's against their human rights...... why is nothing said by these organisations you speak of here..... nada.... niks..... f.okol.


Why are they not publicly condemning them every day..... why do they remain quiet?


Why do the police never credit any arrest due to tip offs or some inside information from the Muslim community?


Why does the Muslim community shut down and crawl within itself when further information is needed to arrest anyone else who may have been involved in a terror attack.


Even after the Paris attack, it was a well known fact that the entire Muslim community in Molenbeek, where the attacker lived, offered no assistance to the police when they were investigating that atrocious attack for further Muslim involvement..... 


Please answer that.....


Why is there no known program or propaganda speech or sermon or anything else being spread against ISIS by these senior Muslim organisations every day... every month, targeting youngsters to prevent them from converting to terrorists?


Why don't these senior Muslim organisations constantly tell these youngsters how cowardly these "senior" people are who entice and convince these kids everyday to become suicide bombers?


Why don't they also tell these youngsters that they will NOT go to heaven and receive 40 - 70 virgins for killing innocent people?


By your logic, you may as well blame Mikhail Kalashnikov for the fact that Boko Haram kidnapped over 200 teenage girls and raped and molested them for over 2 years because they were armed with a rifle he made, because surely they would never have even contemplated doing that with some other weapon.


You may as well blame Kalashnikov for these Somali pirate attacks as well because that also seems to be their main weapon of choice.


You see, by your logic, they would never have done this had Kalashnikov not made this rifle available..... because they wouldn't have been armed would they...... but of course they would, with something else..... we both know that. 


Just like "Because the USA" did this, it's all their fault now, Al Qaeda would never have been armed by someone else.... no ways.


You know, by your logic, arming somebody with a weapon means they will automatically end up raping, murdering, and mutilating little children....... it's a common occurrence isn't it?.  


By your logic, there is now a distinct link between someone being armed and automatically committing atrocious acts against woman and children..... yes, of course there is...... because the USA armed them and trained them.


Boko Haram or these pirates would never have used an alternative weapon would they?


Just like Al Qaeda would never have done this if the USA were never previously involved in arming them.


But hold on a sec.........maybe... just maybe...... it has to do with their culture and beliefs... you know, the ones where they flog a woman for looking at a man, or decapitate a woman in public for having relations with a man when not married, or how about chopping off little boys hands for stealing


How about the stoning of women, by their families, in public arenas, or killing all g.a. y people.


Mmmmm........ that's already quite a decent and respectable culture hey !!!!


Yep......... NOW......... arm somebody who already has those kind of beliefs.


Different story don't you think........









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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
26 May 2017, 16:28
#28
26 May 2017, 16:28#28
 Oh now you've done it. He's gonna call you "Plank" again!
DB
DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
26 May 2017, 16:33
#29
26 May 2017, 16:33#29
One rotten apple spoils the basket. 
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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
26 May 2017, 18:59
#30
26 May 2017, 18:59#30
 At the risk of having that halfwit dumbass cerudunce windpomp say I am making apolitical point read this. please note these GLOBALIST BASTARDS WANT TO DESTROY EUROPE!!!!Polish PM on Manchester Attack: ‘Europe, Rise from Your Knees or You’ll Be Crying over Your Children Every Day’he prime minister of Poland has launched a blistering attack on the “political elites” of Europe in the wake of the Manchester terror attack, warning the continent must put in place “strong politicians” willing to tackle the threat or risk “crying over your children

Speaking in the Polish Parliament on Wednesday, Beata Szyd?o seized the moment to launch an excoriating attack on European Union leaders following the Manchester attack which, among others, claimed the lives of a Polish couple, leaving their two daughters as orphans.

We are not going to take part in the madness of the Brussels elite,” she railed. “We want to help people, not the political elites.

“Where are you headed Europe?” she demanded. “Rise from your knees and from your lethargy or you will be crying over your children every day.

“If you can’t see this – if you can’t see that terrorism currently has the potential to hurt every country in Europe, and you think that Poland should not defend itself, you are going hand in hand with those who point this weapon against Europe, against all of us.

“It needs to be said clearly and directly: This is an attack on Europe, on our culture, on our traditions.

Addressing the people of Europe, she asked: “Do we want politicians who claim we have to get used to the attacks, and who describe terrorist attacks as incidents, or do we want strong politicians who can see the danger and can fight against it efficiently?”

Szyd?o’s Government is currently locked in a battle with Brussels over Commission plans for every member state who is signed up to the Common European Asylum System to take in a quota of migrants from Greece and Italy as a solidarity measure.

The previous Polish Government agreed in 2015 to take in 4,500-5,000 migrants, the commitment increased by the EU to 6,200, but Szyd?o’s administration reversed that decision upon taking power and has promised instead to give aid to people in refugee camps in the Middle East.

Brussels has responded by issuing threats of sanctions if no migrants are taken by June. The same threat has been made to Hungary, which also has yet to take any migrants in under the quota system.

Although the Commission has not made clear what sanctions would be applied, politicians in other member states have called for Poland and Hungary to have their EU funding withheld until they participate in the programme.

But Poland’s Interior Minister Mariusz B?aszczak is defiant, insisting that taking the migrants would be “much worse” than any sanctions the EU could lay down.

“ We m ustn’t forget the terror attacks that have taken place in Western Europe, and how  — in the bigger EU countries  — these are unfortunately now a fact of life,” he said earlier this month.


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PlumCaptain21,007 posts
26 May 2017, 19:04
#31
26 May 2017, 19:04#31
Never known anyone who was killed in a terror attack. 
In my personal experience, the few business dealings I had they always tried to screw me somehow. The most recent being the following.
Bought a car from an auction house run by Muslims in JHB. Turned up the next morning, paid for the vehicle and took it home. Took me six months to get the papers out of them though. Why? Well because they told me that the car was from a deceased estate hence the transfer was taking long. After paying a connection to dig, we found the owner alive and well. The owner proceeded to tell me that she was selling the vehicle and was approached by the Muslim auctioneers who said they'd get a better price at auction. Turns out I got it for way cheaper than she was intending on selling it for. 
Luckily I have some friends at the police because amongst other things the auctioneers also reported the vehicle stolen after I'd had it for two months and tried to get some blatantly corrupt cops to reclaim the vehicle from me. 
I took the whole thing quite personally. Was there vengeance. One can't say say really.
Funny thing is, whenever I'd phone the tossers they'd always say they were at Mosque.
Are Islam inherently evil? I dunno. Do I dislike Muslims because of the plethora of negative experiences I've had with then. Maybe not entirely. Just don't ask me to trust you if your you're a Muslim because life has taught me not to.



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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
26 May 2017, 19:06
#32
26 May 2017, 19:06#32
Plum you need to get acquainted with what islam teaches with regard to how they treat the infidel. It will cause your hair to stand on end.
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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
26 May 2017, 20:14
#33
26 May 2017, 20:14#33
USA Homeland Security Secretary General John Kelly on Friday said the terror threat is worse than most realize, saying some people would "never leave the house" if they knew the truth.

“I was telling [Fox host] Steve [Doocy] on the way in here, if he knew what I knew about terrorism, he’d never leave the house in the morning,” Kelly said on “Fox & Friends.”

He noted there were four major terror attacks in the last week — in England, Egypt, the Philippines and Indonesia — "by generally the same groups."

It’s everywhere. It’s constant. It’s nonstop. The good news for us in America is we have amazing people protecting us every day. But it can happen here almost anytime.”

Masked gunmen opened fire on a group of Coptic Christians driving to a monastery in southern Egypt on Friday, killing 26 and injuring 25 more.

Egyptian President Abdel Fattah al-Sisi reportedly called an emergency meeting after the attack in Minya Province.

The Islamic State in Iraq and Syria claimed responsibility for a Monday bombing after an Ariana Grande concert in Manchester, England, that killed 22 and injured more than 100.

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PlumCaptain21,007 posts
27 May 2017, 09:02
#34
27 May 2017, 09:02#34
 @ Beeno 
What our "friend" Basque won't talk about is the many thousands of poor Africans killed by Muslim groups in Africa. From Somalia to Nigeria to Egypt. These people have nothing to do with the West. The only similarity is that some are Christians.
Then he'll say that "Oh it's only some Muslims that do that."
The fact is that Islam pushes its agenda as far as the country it's in will allow it to. In Europe Islam used moral guilt to further it's ends. In Africa and other places with weak governments Islam uses violence.
What Basque also fails to mention is how Arab world immediately stopped contributing to Science and Math the moment Islam arrived.
You disagree Basque?
Ok fine. 
Let's just tally up the amount of Nobel prizes Jews have earned to those earned by Muslims. The difference is embarrassing. Muslims who by the way outnumber Jews many times over.
What's stranger us that Arabs had a huge head start on the Jews too. Persia was an intellectual hub at one point. So what went wrong. It's pretty obvious. They found a reconstructive way of thinking and bought into it wholeheartedly.
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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
27 May 2017, 09:46
#35
27 May 2017, 09:46#35
 Crooked Hillary wanted to increase the muslim invasion of the USA by 550%. Thank God she never got the chance!!! The muslim Oil states were of course donation 100s of millions of dollars to her.



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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
27 May 2017, 10:05
#36
27 May 2017, 10:05#36
 The Telgraph reported:

Salman Abedi is understood to have received thousands of pounds in state funding in the run up to Monday’s atrocity even while he was overseas receiving bomb-making training.

Police are investigating Abedi’s finances, including how he paid for frequent trips to Libya where he is thought to have been taught to make bombs at a jihadist training camp.

[…] One former detective said jihadists were enrolling on university courses to collect the student loans “often with no intention of turning up”.

Abedi was given at least £7,000 from the taxpayer-funded Student Loans Company after beginning a business administration degree at Salford University in October 2015.

It is thought he received a further £7,000 in the 2016 academic year even though by then he had already dropped out of the course. Salford University declined to say if it had informed the Student Loans Company that Abedi’s funding should have been stopped.


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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
27 May 2017, 10:11
#37
27 May 2017, 10:11#37
 
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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
27 May 2017, 10:13
#38
27 May 2017, 10:13#38
 Google or go to You Tube for Clinton Body count

My friend, it's at least five.

The Clinton Body Count Just Went Up By 5 In The Past 6 Weeks!

1) John Ashe (Jun 27th) - crushed throat. Set to testify against Clintons and DNC.

2) Seth Conrad Rich - (July 10) - supposedly was going to testify. Look up Wasserman Schultz.

3) Joe Montano - Chairman of DNC (July 25 - same day as WikiiDump)

4) Victor Thorn - Clinton exposer. (shot) Aug 1

5) Shawn Lucas -- Aug 2 - Activist and Bernie Sanders supporter Shawn Lucas is the latest person to line up alongside others in the Clinton body count. He is the fifth person who has been a threat to the Clintons to die in the past six weeks. Lucas, along with filmmaker Ricardo Villaba

recently served papers to the Democratic National Committee Services Corp. and the former Chair Debbie Wasserman Schultz with regards to a

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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
27 May 2017, 10:24
#39
27 May 2017, 10:24#39
 Imam ADMITS ‘Manchester Terrorist Killed People Believing He Would Be With Prophet Mohammed That Night’ (VIDEO)

Cristina Laila May 26th, 2017 1:53 pm 71 Comments

Australian Imam, Tawhidi of the Islamic Association of South Australia did an interview to discuss the Manchester terrorist attack and Islamic terrorism. Instead of deceiving the public, he actually told the truth about Islam and what the Quran teaches Muslims. 

Imam Tawhidi said Islam is a religion of war and that the Manchester terrorist killed people thinking he would be with the prophet Mohammed that night.

Imam Tawhidi: “A month doesn’t go by without a terrorist attack happening somewhere around the world and for the past 1,400 years, we have had a religion of war. That’s exactly what we have had. This is not a–this is not something I’m imagining. These are facts, We’ve had many wars.

How did Islam spread from Saudi Arabia down to Indonesia and Bosnia? All spread by the sword. We’ve had many wars and for someone to come and say these Islamic scriptures have nothing to do with it…I mean that’s against the facts. That’s not true. The Islamic scriptures is exactly what is pushing these people to behead the infidel.

Let me tell you something. The people that are beheading–that mister uh uh the person that killed the young girls in Manchester did so believing he was going to die with the prophet Mohammad that very night and that is because the Islamic scriptures tell him.”

At this point, the other Muslim on the panel interrupted Imam Tawhidi trying to refute what he was saying. Imam Tawhidi hit back saying, “Do not lie to the Australian nation. You cannot sit there and lie to the Australian people. Our books teach the beheading of people!”

Why is this guy still an Iman knowing all this? Of course wee dense denise will be beside himself about this Iman telling the truth like this! AB ASS will be apoplectic!!!

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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
27 May 2017, 10:25
#40
27 May 2017, 10:25#40
 
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