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Marx Goat?

Started by Plum13 REPLIES377 VIEWS· 24 May 2019, 19:03
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PlumCaptain21,007 posts
24 May 2019, 19:03
#1
24 May 2019, 19:03#1

Is Marx gonna dominate for the next ten years?


If so, is he a shoe-in for best Bok hooker ever? 


Possibly a top ten all time Bok too?



DB
DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
24 May 2019, 19:08
#2
24 May 2019, 19:08#2

Plum, if he really is good enough, we will think so...best whatever yet is always subjective, but he is a brilliant player with lots of potential to unlock still. We are blessed with forwards. Backline pansies is a problem from 11 right through to 15.

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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
24 May 2019, 19:12
#3
24 May 2019, 19:12#3

Make that backline coaches Draad. We don' t have great backline coaches

CL
CleanCutPro9,905 posts
24 May 2019, 19:37
#4
24 May 2019, 19:37#4

To qualify as the best, he would need to dominate others in every aspect.

Having said that, his weakness is his line out put in.

We often see him missing his jumpers which can be rather costly.

If I had to select between him and Bismarck in his prime, I'd go for Bismarck.


 

RO
RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
24 May 2019, 19:43
#5
24 May 2019, 19:43#5
I think the title "Greatest of all Time" is more appropriate towards the end of a player's career, rather than what is hopefully just the beginning.
Not just rugby, pretty much in any sport you care to mention.
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SebPro2,680 posts
24 May 2019, 20:31
#6
24 May 2019, 20:31#6

The toughest of all hookers in SA was Uli Schmidt and then Piston Van Wyk...another breed of rugby strength and power and hardiness that is rare today. Internationally I would rate Keith Wood from Eireland and Sean Fitzpatrick too...just another class.

PL
PlumCaptain21,007 posts
24 May 2019, 20:32
#7
24 May 2019, 20:32#7

I thought same and then this past weekend they were talking about how accurate his throw s have become.

Just speculating. If he continues to go as he is, and potentially improve at a normal rate. 

Would he make the top ten?

SE
SebPro2,680 posts
24 May 2019, 21:59
#8
24 May 2019, 21:59#8

Plum with respect throwing a ball straight is a prerequisite of any hooker, a school, club, franchise or international. The harder work is in the engine. Marx, is a strong man, so is Bismarck but I feel not quite complete. It's a very simple act. A hooker to be great has to be both a master of all trades and no jacks at all, if you get my drift, he's a keyman in a side apart from the 10..every player has a part , of course but priority parts, there's nothing more important. You can list all of them, but the hooker and flyhalf are the keys. Every body's important but these are the code to unlocking the potential of every one else.

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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
24 May 2019, 23:24
#9
24 May 2019, 23:24#9

South Africa had some great hookers over the years, Malcolm is one of them. Great player! Best ever? NOT! There are no such things as best players ever.

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
25 May 2019, 00:12
#10
25 May 2019, 00:12#10
There are two concepts being confused here.....there is best career of all time, and highest level reached. Both could be described as greatest of all time. I'm fairly convinced no hooker who has played the game could dominate Marx physically. In the sense of pure physical talent he is the best we have seen.
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CeradynePro9,374 posts
25 May 2019, 01:05
#11
25 May 2019, 01:05#11

“You can list all of them, but the hooker and flyhalf are the keys.”


It goes beyond that. The key players are the so-called spine of the team, ie 2,8,9,10 and 15. 

PL
PlumCaptain21,007 posts
25 May 2019, 07:35
#12
25 May 2019, 07:35#12

Marx is also good in open play. I struggle to think of another hooker, maybe Akker, that is as good all round the park.

Maybe you guys can help me list the hookers since re-admission.

Dalton, Schmidt, Smit, Bizzie, Strauss...there, I listed the easy ones.


BL
bluebokPro3,977 posts
25 May 2019, 07:52
#13
25 May 2019, 07:52#13

Marx is a fantastic player, but as mentioned, his line-out throwing is a problem. That is one of the primary roles of a hooker. How can he even be in the discussion, if his line-out put ins are no better than a 5/10? He has had this issue since he burst onto the scene, and he has still not managed to sort it out. Could he eventually be the GOAT? Absolutely, but not with this fatal flaw hanging around his neck. 

For the record, the current GOAT for me, definitely Keith Wood

PL
PlumCaptain21,007 posts
25 May 2019, 08:16
#14
25 May 2019, 08:16#14

Blue

When did he play?

Was it back when the forwards used to stand around, then suddenly bind and duck into a scrum?

Man this sport used to be some much different.

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