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Marx out of WC

Started by Saffolk 82 REPLIES2,753 VIEWS· 14 Sept 2023, 08:26
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SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
14 Sept 2023, 08:26
#1
14 Sept 2023, 08:26#1
With knee injury sustained in training - huge huge loss - our turnover king
RO
RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
14 Sept 2023, 08:39
#2
14 Sept 2023, 08:39#2

Terrible news. Hope Bongi steps up and recovers his form from 2 years ago.

SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
14 Sept 2023, 08:47
#3
14 Sept 2023, 08:47#3
I’m guessing Dweba will be called in I’m concerned we have now lost our turnover master - he wins us a good few often vital turnovers a game
DA
Devil's AdvocatePro7,008 posts
14 Sept 2023, 08:51
#4
14 Sept 2023, 08:51#4

Fuck.... that is absolutely massive

RO
RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
14 Sept 2023, 08:52
#5
14 Sept 2023, 08:52#5
I wonder if Rassie will use this opportunity to bring in Handre Pollard. He has got Deon Fourie as backup hooker although I'd much prefer Dweba.
SH
sharkbokCaptain23,220 posts
14 Sept 2023, 09:02
#6
14 Sept 2023, 09:02#6

This is a disaster.  

BE
becsPro4,378 posts
14 Sept 2023, 09:45
#7
14 Sept 2023, 09:45#7

Oh that’s not good news.

MO
moolaaPro2,380 posts
14 Sept 2023, 09:58
#8
14 Sept 2023, 09:58#8

Hard luck for Marx. A key man gone.

Players are dropping like flies!

PL
PlumCaptain21,007 posts
14 Sept 2023, 10:02
#9
14 Sept 2023, 10:02#9
No worries. We have the best 12 in the game to carry us over the line.
DE
DennyCaptain12,893 posts
14 Sept 2023, 10:28
#10
14 Sept 2023, 10:28#10

The versatile Deon Fourie, who also plays in the back row, will be the replacement hooker on the bench against Romania, while fellow back rower Marco van Staden has also been training in the position.

"We'll assess our needs for the rest of the tournament and confirm who we are calling up as an additional player later this week," said Nienabar.

"We have enough cover at hooker with Bongi and Deon [Fourie] in the squad, while Marco [van Staden] has also been training there and has been named on all our team sheets so far as a hooker option."

SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
14 Sept 2023, 10:39
#11
14 Sept 2023, 10:39#11
Huge risk relying on Fourie as our bench hooker when it comes to the knockout stages I think they want Pollard but need Dweba
DE
DennyCaptain12,893 posts
14 Sept 2023, 10:40
#12
14 Sept 2023, 10:40#12

Marx is indispensable.

SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
14 Sept 2023, 10:50
#13
14 Sept 2023, 10:50#13
Yes one could almost say our most valuable player We rely on him heavily to effect those turnovers especially when camped in our 22 and under pressure He is an absolute master of his art It may force a change of personnel - we might see Vermeulen elevated above Wiese as he is better at effecting turnovers Fourie might be a handy bench hooker as he is good at effecting turnovers as is Kwagga and v Staaden It’s why I don’t get why Koch is ahead of Thomas du Toit in the squad - Thomas is younger, bigger, better and great at effecting turnovers Will be interesting to see if Marx’s departure changes the coaches thinking in terms of team make up away from hooker
DE
DennyCaptain12,893 posts
14 Sept 2023, 10:53
#14
14 Sept 2023, 10:53#14

Marx also doubles up as a potent ball carrier.

SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
14 Sept 2023, 11:08
#15
14 Sept 2023, 11:08#15
Massive ball carrier Bongi is good but he is no Marx and we don’t see him effecting turnovers
DE
DennyCaptain12,893 posts
14 Sept 2023, 11:18
#16
14 Sept 2023, 11:18#16

Pointless looking for a like for like replacement, there ain't one, best to beef up the pack.

RO
RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
14 Sept 2023, 11:19
#17
14 Sept 2023, 11:19#17

We're paying the price for the ridiculous decision to include 4 scrumhalves.

Bongi is a better lineout thrower than Marx.

SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
14 Sept 2023, 11:33
#18
14 Sept 2023, 11:33#18
Don’t forget the 4 openside flankers in Kolisi, Kwagga, v Staaden and Fourie There is just no rationale in these selections other than them not being able to agree on which 3 to select and instead opting to select all 4 thereby compromising the team elsewhere There is absolutely no merit in trying to convince the public that these players are versatile and can cover multiple positions. Bullshit Faf is not a flyhalf, nor is Kolbe just like Williams or Reinach are not wings and v Staaden is not a hooker In a squad of 33 there is more than enough room to have 2 specialists in each position with an additional hooker and 9 and one utility player like Willemse Our squad of 4 scrumhalves and 4 open sides leaves us 3 places short elsewhere one of whom should obviously have been Pollard, the other Dweba
DE
DennyCaptain12,893 posts
14 Sept 2023, 11:36
#19
14 Sept 2023, 11:36#19

Some very strange selections even down to the match day team.

MP
MpowerPro5,061 posts
14 Sept 2023, 11:54
#20
14 Sept 2023, 11:54#20
Another huge loss…Marx is a vital key to our Forwards success…I also think with Nienhaber saying that van staden can also Cover hooker + Fourie, that they eyeing bringing Pollard back….has van staden ever played hooker before and how long ago did Fourie play hooker? Well we will have to see but dweba is not close to Marx….I would rather go for Johan Grobbelar which is a better bet. This strange 33 man squad is showing his ugly head.
KI
kingcornPro3,695 posts
14 Sept 2023, 12:22
#21
14 Sept 2023, 12:22#21

Well, we need guys that can hit our jumpers. Right now only Bongi had a decent track record. Dweeb and Fourie is a massive risk. 

We saw ho much momentum and points we conceded when Dweeb played for SA in Johannesburg. 

You give possession away to a team like Ireland and it will lights out for us. 

They should have invested more in Grobbelaar 

SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
14 Sept 2023, 12:31
#22
14 Sept 2023, 12:31#22
Dweba’s throwing was fine for the Stormers I doubt v Staaden has ever played hooker and if he did it would have been pre him being a pro Is there not a law that only recognised frontrow players can play in the frontrow which would exclude v Staaden
MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
14 Sept 2023, 13:29
#23
14 Sept 2023, 13:29#23

Marx was the catalyst that compensated for our  loosies who can’t fetch and our forward ball carrier, who can’t run.  Other than Etzebeth there is no bigger loss.

JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
14 Sept 2023, 13:59
#24
14 Sept 2023, 13:59#24
No worries, surely one of the halfbacks can step in for him??
DE
Deus Ex LemurPro2,355 posts
14 Sept 2023, 18:02
#25
14 Sept 2023, 18:02#25

Is he a loss? He is not a big presence at the breakdown, and his defence is average. He hadn't played especially well this year. Maybe marginally better than Bongi this year, so far. 

SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
14 Sept 2023, 18:32
#26
14 Sept 2023, 18:32#26
Oh Doos you really are a useless fucking waste of space You seriously know fuck all about rugby It’s a real pity you have returned to pollute this board with your rugby ignorance Over and out - just fuck off
DE
Deus Ex LemurPro2,355 posts
14 Sept 2023, 19:15
#27
14 Sept 2023, 19:15#27

I know enough to mop the floor with you with ease. That's good enough . 

SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
14 Sept 2023, 19:47
#28
14 Sept 2023, 19:47#28
Doos you are so fucking stupid that you are unable to comprehend how embarrassing you are. Let’s take your utterly ignorant view on Marx for instance. Not a single poster on this board nor any view published out there on Marx would ever agree with your insulting take. You really are a fucking joke - go back to crying in your pillow it was a pleasure without you while you were gone, you pathetically negative prick
RO
RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
14 Sept 2023, 20:33
#29
14 Sept 2023, 20:33#29

My wife knows next to nothing about rugby. She has no interest in the game and harrdly ever watches it. On the rare occasion that she does watch rugby (like during a RWC when we have friends and family around to watch the game) she'll be saying things like "why is he playing if he's got bandages around his legs?" . . . or when a defender makes a perfectly legitimate tackle she'll be on her feet demanding a red card . . . or she'll be asking why the kicker is cheating by using a kicking tee. Stuff like that. We're used to it so we just roll our eyes and send her to the kitchen to get more dry wors or beers.

Why am I saying all this? Because as clueless as my wife is when it comes to rugby, she still knows a lot more about the game than Doos XL.

Fact.

SH
sharkbokCaptain23,220 posts
14 Sept 2023, 20:44
#30
14 Sept 2023, 20:44#30

Does XL claims the Boks (ranked #2  in the world) have the worst defense out of all of the top 10 rugby test teams...

Even without knowing anything about rugby or sport, anyone could look at that statement and see it is impossible. 


RO
RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
14 Sept 2023, 20:53
#31
14 Sept 2023, 20:53#31

It's actually a bit embarrassing having this ignorant yet opinionated and very vocal rugby noob posting on the same board.

SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
14 Sept 2023, 21:11
#32
14 Sept 2023, 21:11#32
Rooi there is no doubt your lovely wife knows more about the game than this negative blue arse fly My cat knows more about the game and I’ve never seen kitty in front of the telly Marx won’t be missed - fuck me can anyone be more stupid What surprises me more than anything is that some fools on here give Doos some credit at times fuck me some were stupid enough to call for his return during his pleasurable absence
AJ
AJHPro3,183 posts
14 Sept 2023, 21:23
#33
14 Sept 2023, 21:23#33

A major blow for the Springboks WC chances.

Irrespective of who fills in for him they cannot match his power, skill or class as the #1 Hooker for RSA.

Mr Steriod is a poor replacement and Fourie is going to be out of his league.

Well if they do not win the RWC 2023 this injury to Marks will  be exploited to the fullest by Rassie and his clowns.


Sa dly.

SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
14 Sept 2023, 22:15
#34
14 Sept 2023, 22:15#34
Best hooker in the game
BO
Boorad1Club Pro106 posts
15 Sept 2023, 05:07
#35
15 Sept 2023, 05:07#35

Best hooker in the game

Naah Sheehan for Ireland is better.  Just coming back from injury though so not sure if he will be trusted against SA,  We do have two other excellent hookers in Kelleher and Herring. Think Kelleher is as good  as Marx.  Ireland was not concerned about your hooker it is the size of therest of your bloody pack

DE
DennyCaptain12,893 posts
15 Sept 2023, 06:50
#36
15 Sept 2023, 06:50#36

Well for his latest effortless embarrassment DoosXL deserves an upgrade......

DoosXXL....there........sorted!

DE
DennyCaptain12,893 posts
15 Sept 2023, 06:54
#37
15 Sept 2023, 06:54#37

the size of the rest of your bloody pack

Be afraid Boor ad.....they're coming for you, all born in the year beef was cheap.


DA
Devil's AdvocatePro7,008 posts
15 Sept 2023, 07:24
#38
15 Sept 2023, 07:24#38

"Is he a loss? He is not a big presence at the breakdown, and his defence is average"

There are quite a few posters on this forum that know a lot more about this great game, than I do, and I really enjoy reading their individual assessments and opinions of certain players, laws... games or teams etc etc

That includes you as well Deus .... you clearly do know a lot about the game ... and I can see that from some of your posts ...and whether I agree with what you say or not.... is irrespective, because you know a lot more than me, and I respect that.

However, even with my limited knowledge and understanding of this fantastic game .... I cannot comprehend this statement from you ... sorry, but it is just absurd.


SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
15 Sept 2023, 08:49
#39
15 Sept 2023, 08:49#39
Borat you are speaking through your arse Marx is better than Shee it’s not even close Shee is on par with Bongi If you were not concerned about the size of Marx let me remind you he is all of 118kg
SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
15 Sept 2023, 08:52
#40
15 Sept 2023, 08:52#40
You are wrong DA, Doos knows fuck all about the game - I don’t recall a single post from him that was ever accurate or had any relevance The closest he has come is liking one of the du Preez twins but even there he fucked up telling us the other was nowhere near as good Most negative and ignorant poster I have ever come across In insult of a Bok supporter
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