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Marx - so who was wrong as to the line-out throw-ins

Started by clevermike20 REPLIES675 VIEWS· 28 Nov 2018, 15:30
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
28 Nov 2018, 15:30
#1
28 Nov 2018, 15:30#1

After the fiasco in the test in the RC where there were serious problems as to the line-out following kicks at the corner - our experts (Mozart and AO) on site was quick to lay all blame on Du Toit for the overthrows - Du Toit could not jump high enough to catch the balls and strings on Du Toit's overwhelming deficiencies.   


So what is Marx saying about what happened as reflected in the following report in News24:-


"Springbok hooker Malcolm Marx says he is working hard at improving his lineout throwing.


In an interview was Rugby Pass, Marx took the blame for the Springboks’ lineout woes in the 12-11 defeat to England at Twickenham earlier this month.


South Africa lost four vital lineouts during the Test, with three of those coming off overthrows from Marx.


“It’s tough, but first I’ve got to look at myself and obviously that was all my fault, throwing over the jumpers. It’s hard to adjust in-game and I felt like I was going well at the lineout aside from that, but those three lineouts could have won us the game.

“It was massive pressure and it’s not easy playing England at Twickenham, but there’s no excuse from me, I’ve got a job to do and obviously that part of the job I didn’t do to the best of my ability,” Marx said.

Marx added that he’s working hard at improving his lineout throwing and that he was "constantly trying to improve it".


Lineout woes aside, it was still an impressive season from the burly Lions No 2.


He was nominated alongside Springbok team-mate Faf de Klerk, All Blacks duo Beauden Barrett and Rieko Ioane, and Ireland's Johnny Sexton for the World Rugby Player of the Year award.


Sexton walked away with the grand prize but Marx will feel chuffed with his 2018 season.

The 24-year-old now boasts 24 Tests and has established himself as the Springboks' first-choice hooker ahead of the 2019 Rugby World Cup in Japan."


So now we know what Marx himself said about the incidents and one wonders whether our to leaders in BS is going to apologize for their conduct in regard to the relevant test.

 

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AugenöffnerPro6,974 posts
28 Nov 2018, 15:32
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28 Nov 2018, 15:32#2

Was I? You were quick to blame Mostert for our alleged mauling issues. The only time I commented on the issue was when I pointed out numerous instances which proved you were wrong. As for Marx? I have criticised his throwing all season.

As I stated a while back, you have a fetish for humiliation. 

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
28 Nov 2018, 15:45
#3
28 Nov 2018, 15:45#3

No BSter another lie.  I blamed Mostert for the problems in mauling when the balls are thrown in and he never even try to start driving mauls.  When he tried in one test he failed in finalizing the mauls through co-ordination of he maul.   But then you do not know what rolling mauls entails.

Don't divert - where did you ever not blamed Du Toit for what happened in that match Marx is referring to.  Mozart led the campaign and he had your active support.   

You must by now be humiliated so badly - I suggest another user name change.     

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AugenöffnerPro6,974 posts
28 Nov 2018, 15:46
#4
28 Nov 2018, 15:46#4

I suggest you use your feet for walking, not choking yourself. 

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
28 Nov 2018, 16:55
#5
28 Nov 2018, 16:55#5

Change your user name - even though it is indeed a pity that your known BS will betray your new user name way too soon.     

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
28 Nov 2018, 16:55
#6
28 Nov 2018, 16:55#6

Change your user name - even though it is indeed a pity that your known BS will betray your new user name way too soon.     

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
28 Nov 2018, 17:25
#7
28 Nov 2018, 17:25#7
22:37 These will appear as I watch the full game for the first time...only the unusual will noted. For the very best experience and to avoid any frustration, you might want to wait till I'm done to respond. Minute 1.44 ...Nice job by Dyantyi and Whiteley securing the high ball, poor Marx knock on. Minute 5.15...Nice Stephanie lineout take and solid Bok maul. Minute 6.40...Pollard puts over a good kick Minute 10.00...Fine high ball kick take by Willemse. Minute 10.30 Aimless Allende kick ahead easily recovered then lost by May. Minute 15.00 Fabulous long Pollard penalty, followed by a superb open side kick superbly taken by Nkosi...Itoje carded. Minute 17.03 Marx overthrows Stephanie...clearly the hooker's fault on this one, possible try a-begging. Minute 17.50 Excellent Stephanie steal off Pom long lineout ball. Minute 22.32 De Allende spills the ball in Hartley's tackle...was it a bit early? Minute 25.25 Another 10 metre lineout, Etzebeth takes well, contrary to what some think the short ball maul is potent, but Kolisi drops the ball. Minute 23.08 Marx botches another throw long....why do this when he is struggling and the short lineout maul was good 3 minutes earlier. Stephanie with a cupped hand appears to be the lineout caller. Minute 28.25 ....Beautiful Pollard pass puts Allende through a half gap. Kriel is positioned for the pass with a chance for an overlap. Allende tractors on and the chance is lost....right there you see the Cul de Sac issue. He dies with the ball, every time. Minute 29 ...Etzebeth tries to barge through and loses the ball. Minute 32 ..Allende gets outside Shields and makes some ground. Shields hangs on to make the tackle. Minute 32.40 ...slick hands from Whiteley puts Nkosi in at the corner. Minute 34.50...Stephanie botches the kick off and Poms have some territory. Farrell slots a penalty. Minute 40.27.....brilliant hands from Whiteley releases Allende who tractors on and with the nicely positioned Dyantyi outside him kills the move. Minute 41.25 ....Itoje brilliantly held up by Etzebeth, who sadly injures his ankle. Minute 42.10 Allende actually throws a pass....and we have space. Minute 43.47....Marx overthrows Vermeulen at the lineout....once again Stephanie with a cupped hand is calling the throw. It's on Marx, but it's also on Stephanie....there is no need to persist with a failing play. Minute 48.0....Allende tractors laterally and then loses the ball. Minute 49.30...Allende stupidly foots the ball from the wrong side....Daily scores from 50 metres. Minute 54....this time Marx's throw is spot on but Stephanie is stripped by Shield, negating his lineout steal Shield is a good 4 inches higher than Stephanie. Minute 54.52...Allende bites on the Farrell dummy who flies past him and the Poms break into our 22. Marx saves the day with a patented turnover. Minute 60.00 ....Whiteley makes a rare mistake interfering marginally with Itoje in the lineout, Farrell misses. Minute 62...Pollard fieds a high kick and breaks strongly...he kicks ahead into Pom 22 and is impeded. No penalty.....Esterhozen shows good pace chasing but misses May on the full run. Poms break back well....Whiteley covers back to take Youngs.
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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
28 Nov 2018, 17:32
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28 Nov 2018, 17:32#8
Minute 62.30....Kruis shakes off Stephanie. Daily on the break once again it's Whiteley to the rescue. Minute 64.04 ....high quality Stephanie tackle on Noll as he threatened to break free. Minute 66...Thomas du Toit gets over the ball and forces a penalty. Pollard nails a fine kick. Minute 67.35....Lomp knocks on the kickoff. Minute 68.33....Crushing hit by Esterhozen on Farrell. Minute 69.46...Allende shoots out of line and inside with no hope of making the tackle. This creates the overlap, but it's Shield on the outside and Esterhozen makes the try saving tackle. Minute 71.00...scrum near the Boks line, Thomas du Toit folds, giving Farrell the match winning kick. A bit unfair on this bloke who suddenly has a crucial scrum and he's back at loosehead. But you simply can't have a prop who is so vulnerable. Minute 74....Willemse kicks directly into touch. Minute 74.40...Esterhozen and Pollard force a crucial turnover. Boks scrum dominates and force a penalty. Pollard shaves the upright from 50 metres. Minute 77.37...Bongi shields Allende from a tackler and he steps past another, but is brought down by Care. Minute 79.02.....The Boks are almost on the Poms 5 metre line, Lomp is stripped by Farrell. There's your match. Boks driven back to the 10 metre line. Minute 82.00 ...Farrell nails Esterhozen with his shoulder under the chin....clear penalty....Gardener bottles out
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
28 Nov 2018, 18:10
#9
28 Nov 2018, 18:10#9

A repeat of the BS and as inaccurate as it always were with Mozart with obvious changes made where necessary.  However, the above would not help - you started a series of threads in which you accused Du Toit for the throw-in problems and that eh could not jump high enough in line-outs - hence the over throws.   

You obviously do not want to discuss those nonsense from what you wrote on site about the line-outs.    

Same with AO he tried the diversion tactics - but it did not work.   

So try again.        

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AugenöffnerPro6,974 posts
28 Nov 2018, 18:20
#10
28 Nov 2018, 18:20#10

Change my name? 

I like this name. It's going to be here forever, so you may as well learn to love it. I have nothing to hide from, no need for diversions and I never bluff. You will, as always, be wrong. You'll always lie and you'll always be exposed as a liar. Ende. 


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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
28 Nov 2018, 19:20
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28 Nov 2018, 19:20#11
'Changes made where necessary'.. only they weren't necessary, nor would I make any, unlike you apparently Tokkie.
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sharkbokCaptain23,253 posts
28 Nov 2018, 19:54
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28 Nov 2018, 19:54#12


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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
28 Nov 2018, 20:33
#13
28 Nov 2018, 20:33#13
Maybe Worf for number 5 lock?
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
28 Nov 2018, 20:41
#14
28 Nov 2018, 20:41#14

Where are all the other threads in which you attacked Du Toit for the fiasco,  Remember all the tripe about the ball went over his head because he cannot jump adequately in line-outs - how the problems are not there when Mostert makes the calling - etc.   

Sorry - but you cannot use the same diversion trick you have developed to a fine art and your side-kick AG has copied from you.  

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
28 Nov 2018, 22:51
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28 Nov 2018, 22:51#15
Right in the thread above doofus....Minute 54. Stop judging everybody else by your own Provincial Administation standards.
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
29 Nov 2018, 02:19
#16
29 Nov 2018, 02:19#16

Mozart

Suddenly trying the no 2 Diversion.  The grading is easy - number 2 Moronic BS  

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AugenöffnerPro6,974 posts
29 Nov 2018, 06:52
#17
29 Nov 2018, 06:52#17

Mike, you're embarrassing yourself. 

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
29 Nov 2018, 06:59
#18
29 Nov 2018, 06:59#18

And you are too dishonest and so is Mozart to own up to your own garbage you write on site,  

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
29 Nov 2018, 06:59
#19
29 Nov 2018, 06:59#19

And you are too dishonest and so is Mozart to own up to your own garbage you write on site,  

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AugenöffnerPro6,974 posts
29 Nov 2018, 08:15
#20
29 Nov 2018, 08:15#20

Own up to the truth? It's so self evident, the very act is a redundancy. 

For the sake of the environment we should clear up the emissions that spout from your mouth like a smoke plume escaping a cooling of tower.


There, that's better. Now you can Ruck On with a clean conscience. 

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
29 Nov 2018, 11:00
#21
29 Nov 2018, 11:00#21

Ag Foeitog - the cowards refrain from accepting the fact that they wrote garbage on site and  the plea is that I must remain quiet and stop exposing their BS.  I am LMAO    

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