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Master Jake White has proved a point

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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
26 May 2014, 22:33
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26 May 2014, 22:33#1

Keo gets things badly wrong at times buut here he ios on firm ground.

Ou rooitwit especially needs t oread this and wise up!!!  - Is that a posiibility I have to ask!

Jake White's success with the Brumbies and Sharks shows that Saru should have stuck with him as Springbok coach after the 2007 World Cup, writes MARK KEOHANE.

Coaching does make a difference. Sharks director of rugby Jake White is the difference in this season’s challenge.

The man the South African Rugby Union hierarchy refused to reappoint after coaching the Springboks to the 2007 World Cup, has emphatically embarrassed those in the administration who made a decision that was never based on rugby.

The Stormers, Bulls, Lions and Cheetahs, in 16 starts in Australia and New Zealand this season did not win a game. White’s Sharks in 2014 lost just once in four overseas Super Rugby games.

The Sharks, with three league matches remaining, have led the competition through all 13 rounds. White’s influence was immediate in a competition that cannot be compared to the Currie Cup, which the Sharks won in 2013.

White, when he was not reappointed Bok coach, was rightly bitter. He had won the 2007 World Cup and he previously had won the U21 World Cup. He had also won a Tri-Nations in 2004 in his first season as national coach.

White had identified a new generation of South African player to the Springboks, invested in youth and been emphatic in how he believed the Boks could win the World Cup.

The rugby aspect of his coaching didn’t matter because of agendas and White left South Africa – unwanted – for the Brumbies in Australia.

His rugby intellectual capital was deemed not significant enough to keep him in the country. Australia, by way of the Brumbies, quickly invested in White’s pedigree and White transformed the Brumbies from basement dwellers to 2013 Super Rugby finalists. The Brumbies lost away to New Zealand’s Chiefs in the final but his impact on the quality of the Brumbies was indisputable.

White had restored integrity to Brumbies rugby, improved the quality of the team and the fortunes of individuals who were capped for the Wallabies.

Many in South Africa refuse to acknowledge the influence of White in the 2007 win. White’s conflict with the game’s administration was deemed more significant than his rugby intellect, his results and the ultimate international prize of World Cup glory.

There was no effort made to invest in White after the 2007 World Cup success and it was disgusting how many within the game’s suited and elected lot were quick to discard White's value to South Africa. He was bitter when he left South Africa – and understandably so.

His success with the Brumbies was another indication of his quality as a coach. The Australian Rugby Union asked White to apply for the Wallabies job, post the Robbie Deans era, on a promise he was to be appointed. Pressure to appoint an Australian meant White was lied to and he quit Australian rugby because of the betrayal. (Aha this puts ou rootwit on the spot I believe!)

The Sharks appointed him coach and White has again shown just why he should never have been allowed to leave the country.

He said the Sharks had a squad good enough to win the competition and that the expectation of the franchsie had to be a top-four placing.

White, as with the Boks and the Brumbies, refused to allow for boardroom interference in his rugby philosophy and selection. (quite right )

It is what makes him so successful, yet also so unpopular. White is not liked within South Africa’s rugby administration because he refused to be influenced on those rugby-related matters by elected officials. (Note ou Keo doesnt say anything about the desire to appoint a quota coach)

He was done a dirty by the game’s administration and yet they have never fronted what was an agenda-based decision (What was the AGENDA KEO?).

White is one rugby coach who makes it clear he is the boss. The players are his investment but the tail does not wag the dog. And he has always been outspoken that South African rugby succeeds in spite of and not because of the administration. (Hoor Hoor!)

He has always backed himself on results and again has shown his value to the game in this country.

His efforts with the Brumbies were massive and he has been equally influential in transforming the Sharks approach and results.

White has proven an exceptional coach, regardless of which team he has coached. It is time the South African rugby administration, especially those elected officials who put the boot into him on matters unrelated to rugby, embraced White’s contribution to South African rugby. 

White is controversial because he is prepared to be a coach, who wants to be judged on results. He refuses to be muzzled in the media to appease the insecurities and illusions of those who administer the game and he has always been prepared to make the big calls on player selections.

White builds a team around his player strength but never denies the weaknesses that may exist. He is pragmatic and simple is his approach but technically among the best in the world. (Just ask sirs John and graham who he schooled this year!)

White is a rugby coach whose record and achievements makes him among the best in the world, but previously in South Africa he was judged on everything but his rugby coaching pedigree.

White was not wanted in South African rugby despite winning the World Cup.

The Sharks' 2014 season has only emphasised the shocking nature of that decision.

White has always been the business in South African rugby, unlike those in the administration who shafted him.

Well said Keo I have always maintained the SA RUGBY Admin sucks big time. The rot starts art the top. 

As I said Keo occassionaly hits the nail on the head and guys like wee rooitwit need to cease their Joke White campaign as the JOKE is o n them. Bwahahahahahahaha


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RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
26 May 2014, 22:45
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26 May 2014, 22:45#2
Baboon-ou, Joke White remains a supercilious and self-important ass. The Sharks are winning despiite him, not because of him. The guts the Sharks have shown on their Australasian tour is the legacy of John Plumtree, not Joke White.
The reason SARFU shafted Joke White is because he was a weak coach and a PR embarrassment . . . pretty much in the same league as his successor Pieter de Villiers . . . and both only got the job because they did well with the SA U21 side . . . something that any moron could do given the strength of our schools rugby.
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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
26 May 2014, 22:51
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26 May 2014, 22:51#3
 Hahahahhahahahaha no further evidence needed!   ou rooitwit simply has no clue! 
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ForeverArizonaClub Pro580 posts
27 May 2014, 03:21
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27 May 2014, 03:21#4
 Rooinek...WTF!?!?!?!?!?!?!?
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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
27 May 2014, 09:05
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27 May 2014, 09:05#5
It's the legacy of John Plumtree? What his success at the Brumbies? This tiny man, Rooinek, is still hurting for his hero Look Watson....he simply couldn't abide it when Jake wouldn't choose Watson.
So he predicted failure for Jake at the RWC. Then he predicted failure for Jake at the Brumbies. And just a month ago after the Highlanders loss he was predicting doom again.

And now he is looking stupid again.
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DennyCaptain12,893 posts
27 May 2014, 16:23
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27 May 2014, 16:23#6
 

"The Stormers, Bulls, Lions and Cheetahs, in 16 starts in Australia and New Zealand this season did not win a game. White’s Sharks in 2014 lost just once in four overseas Super Rugby games."

 

 

Just about sums it up....enuff said.

 

 

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bluebokPro3,977 posts
27 May 2014, 19:55
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27 May 2014, 19:55#7
 Rooi, you are on your own! He may be an ass, but he gets the best out of his teams and his players. The results speak for themselves! End of story!
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Monkey D LuffyPro6,277 posts
27 May 2014, 21:19
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27 May 2014, 21:19#8
"Jake White's success with the Brumbies and Sharks shows that Saru should have stuck with him as Springbok coach after the 2007 World Cup,"

joke white didnt want the Boks job after 2007, cos he never reapplied when SARU was taking in applications.
its amazing how many saffas dont realise this little tid bit.

if white was serious about the Boks job, he should have swallowed his pride and reapplied instead of acting all holier than thou.

his only real accomplishment was the 2007 RWC, where the Boks had a easy peasy run to the final, fiji in the quaters, argentina in the semis and england in the final.
i mean seriously thats about as easy as the Boks 2013 fixtures.

joke white and his boring brand of rugby is good enough to take a team to the finals which in itself is no real feat considering how easy the SA conference is, but he wont win a spXV title, dosent matter where its played.

the real scary thing is, he is prob the best coach in SA after meyer, o_O
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RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
27 May 2014, 22:13
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27 May 2014, 22:13#9
"Rooi, you are on your own!"
I've never had a problem having a minority view. I still think Joke White is a complete dickhead and if the Sharks had to dump him I'd be celebrating. 
Even if he was worth anything as a coach, what does it help if he stabs you in the back and reneges on his agreement as he did with the Brumbies? Hmmm?
sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,295 posts
27 May 2014, 22:45
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27 May 2014, 22:45#10
 Rooinek
 
Status: Bok regular 
Posts: 1431RE: Master Jake White has proved a point
May 26, 2014, 20:45:06I still think Joke White is a complete dickhead  (Boo Hoo...)

Baboon-ou, Joke White remains a supercilious and self-important ass.  


Rooipoes, this is not your local knitting or Bingo class. It matters more about results than if you like the person. Maybe you dont like Martha or Jan at Tuesday nights Bingo club, so what. Lets keep it about Rugby. Would you rather win the SuperXV or like the coach?
This is the only South African team to have ever led the SuperXV from round one to this late stage of the tournament. With 3 remaining games, fingers crossed the Sharks are looking like strong contenders.

Given that Jake White's Brumbies were in the final last year, and they are stll trying to play a Jake White influenced game plan, anyone with more than half a brain cell must conclude Jake White is an effective coach.
Now back to your Bingo Class, it is just about to start.
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RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
27 May 2014, 23:52
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27 May 2014, 23:52#11
Sharktwat, if for some bizarre reason I ever want the opinion of a dribbling and sycophantic half-wit who is incapable of independent thought then I'll be sure to put your name up in the subject box. Until then, keep your stupid trap shut and speak when you're spoken to.
Hope that's clear enough for you.
sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,295 posts
28 May 2014, 00:34
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28 May 2014, 00:34#12
Rooipoes, I live to give so really their is no need to thank me, even these veiled apologetic acknowledgements on your inferiority are not necessary. 
And yes, I shall continue to comment on your posts to enlighten you if I have the time to read your opinions. 
I am holding a charity function where my fans like yourself can see me in person and possibly even get my autograph. Their is still hope for you and all is not lost. .. 



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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
28 May 2014, 00:40
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28 May 2014, 00:40#13
 The Australian Rugby Union asked White to apply for the Wallabies job, post the Robbie Deans era, on a promise he was to be appointed. Pressure to appoint an Australian meant White was lied to and he quit Australian rugby because of the betrayal. 
Roooitwit - what does it help if he stabs you in the back and reneges on his agreement as he did with the Brumbies? Hmmm?

Seems Jake was betrayed?  
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RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
28 May 2014, 00:45
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28 May 2014, 00:45#14
". . . if I have the time to read your opinions."
ROTFLMAO!
All I can say, Sharktwat, is good luck changing people's mental picture of you. I'm quite sure most posters still see you as a sad and pathetic loser sitting there with your eyes out on stalks and your hands poised above the keyboard 18 hours out of every 24 waiting for a Rooinek post so you can start whining like the obsessive little bitch you are.
My advice, drop the laughable tough-guy routine and stick to your boring old copy and pastes, chump. That's about the only tiny bit of value you ever add . . . and you're not even very good at that!
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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
28 May 2014, 00:47
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28 May 2014, 00:47#15
 ou rooitwit not taking kindly to be put on the spot. bwahahhahahahaha
sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,295 posts
28 May 2014, 22:06
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28 May 2014, 22:06#16
 
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