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Matfield on Lood

Started by Saffolk 28 REPLIES963 VIEWS· 09 Aug 2023, 09:21
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SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
09 Aug 2023, 09:21
#1
09 Aug 2023, 09:21#1
“In my opinion Lood is the best No 5 lock in the world and it is a pity he is not there,” said Victor Matfield, who himself was once the best player globally in that position, in his role as SuperSport television analyst after the announcement. Case closed
MP
MpowerPro5,061 posts
09 Aug 2023, 09:38
#2
09 Aug 2023, 09:38#2
The following nine players are on standby: Joseph Dweba (hooker), Lukhanyo Am (centre), Lood de Jager (lock), Jean-Luc du Preez (utility forward), Thomas du Toit (prop), Herschel Jantjies (scrumhalf), Handre Pollard (flyhalf), Evan Roos (No8), and Gerhard Steenekamp (prop)…Not a bad Group of Players.
SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
09 Aug 2023, 09:42
#3
09 Aug 2023, 09:42#3
They should all be in the squad bar Steenkamp as Ox and Kitshoff are ahead of him
PL
PlumCaptain21,007 posts
09 Aug 2023, 10:36
#4
09 Aug 2023, 10:36#4
Lood isn't an impact player though...so if he's there then RG gets less time on the park.
KI
kingcornPro3,695 posts
09 Aug 2023, 12:30
#5
09 Aug 2023, 12:30#5

Who will be the five lock, it always has been Lood. Our line outs seem to function better when he is around. Now we are stuck with Orie. 

MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
09 Aug 2023, 13:06
#6
09 Aug 2023, 13:06#6

So after the match against Argentina, Matfield was effusive about how well Orie is playing, one of the best Boks on the day. So Lomp is the best 5 in the world….hahaha….and Orie is a worthy successor, one of the best Boks.

Case closed.

BE
Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
09 Aug 2023, 13:18
#7
09 Aug 2023, 13:18#7

A fit Lood is a must given that the fitness of Snyman is questionable. He takes the field with heavy strapping. Kleyn looks a solid lock to me. 

I believe Orie was an enforced quota pick. Orie could make a good number 7.

Pap Victor matfiled was the most delicate "lock" ever to play for the Boks. That said I never thought wee matfiled was anything but a clever guy. He certainly managed to con quite a few people. In some instances that of course in not a difficult task. 

Matfiled is on the right track with Lood. He is a fine player.

But ou Mozzzz knows far more about number 5 play!. Be sure not to stick with Mozzzzzzz. Hahahahahaha. 

MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
09 Aug 2023, 13:31
#8
09 Aug 2023, 13:31#8
This is so classic…..Lomp has been a total dog for years….many on here calling for him to be dropped. Finally he is and the crowd suddenly find merit in this Dud. Dud Toit, Dud Allende, Dud Jager.
sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,225 posts
09 Aug 2023, 14:09
#9
09 Aug 2023, 14:09#9

Not sure Orrie would be good at 7, but it is worth a try at club level.
Lood lost his position to Orrie. 

Klein is a workhorse that brings mongrel to the pack. If he played at 5, not sure he could me a middle of the lineout jumper.

DB
DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
09 Aug 2023, 14:27
#10
09 Aug 2023, 14:27#10

"Finally he is and the crowd suddenly find merit in this Dud. Dud Toit, Dud Allende, Dud Jager."

All better than Mostert who ain't no slouch either...splinter in the eye stu ff...

DE
Deus Ex LemurPro2,355 posts
09 Aug 2023, 15:32
#11
09 Aug 2023, 15:32#11

We can sit Victor down and go frame by frame over Lood's performances. This is by far the most overrated Bok side of all time.

SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
09 Aug 2023, 18:04
#12
09 Aug 2023, 18:04#12
Ah ok so Matfield the best 5 to play the game has no idea what he is talking about. - WOW You guys are a bunch of clowns I take comfort in the fact that Matfield rates Lood so highly and sees him like I do. Lood is a class act - has always been. Matfield has just embarrassed a few of you - can’t say I’m surprised Thanks Vic - stick with Dave Oh yes, when was Lood dropped? What utter rubbish
DE
Deus Ex LemurPro2,355 posts
09 Aug 2023, 19:11
#13
09 Aug 2023, 19:11#13

Clown Pants, where are you when experts say things that you don't agree with? Like Wayne Smith on Lambie, or Deans saying that Spies was our best player, or Jean when he commented on Damian in 2018 when Esterhuizen came on - "We should see some ball getting out wide a bit now", or the coaches who criticized our coaches two years ago? You are very selective in what you listen to. You don't evaluate anything, and as soon as someone says something you don't like, you call them an effing idiot. Well, game after game, and you can never tell me where any of this great play is. Who is the idiot then? Matfield didn't embarrass anyone. What else would he say going into a World Cup year? He also said in 2003 we'd win the WC and had the best team. Motivational speaking. You like to eat of this kind of stuff, hence why you like the snake oil salesman that is Erasputin. Feel good kak with no substance, but has you feeling nice and fuzzy inside. 

SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
09 Aug 2023, 21:26
#14
09 Aug 2023, 21:26#14
Listen here fuckwit why don’t you just admit you are a fucking rugby ignorant twat or are you going to tell us you know more than Matfield The floor is yours you dumb fuck Take your time Who should we believe - you or Matfield huh????
DE
Deus Ex LemurPro2,355 posts
10 Aug 2023, 09:14
#15
10 Aug 2023, 09:14#15

And when you question Erasmus, are you an arrogant twat too? Or do you know better than the best ever coach, apparently? Saddex, at least try to be consistent. It makes you look a lot less stupid and mentally ill. 

SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
10 Aug 2023, 09:48
#16
10 Aug 2023, 09:48#16
Answer the question chicken shit Stop ducking and diving Do you know more than Matfield I’ll keep it simple for you - a simple yes or no will do
MP
MpowerPro5,061 posts
10 Aug 2023, 11:40
#17
10 Aug 2023, 11:40#17
Lood,s is not the player he use to be….There is many other Locks that could have been invested in, that can be even better than Lood…. Not that Lood is as bad as orie…. just saying the guy is already 30 and doesn’t have heaps of time left…All these reputation players from 2019 that is mostly there on there reputation, even if they not performing and actually past there best, they still there….That is not progress….but regression.
PL
PlumCaptain21,007 posts
10 Aug 2023, 11:44
#18
10 Aug 2023, 11:44#18

Saffex

Perhaps this is a good moment for you to tell us what the pitfalls of appeals to authority are and why it's not an acceptable method of reaching a conclusion.

Anyway, RG and Eben should be our starting locks. 

SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
10 Aug 2023, 11:47
#19
10 Aug 2023, 11:47#19
No pitfalls in taking the word of an authority who was the best in the position being discussed - especially when said authorities view mirrors that of mine It simply reaffirms my conviction in no better way
PL
PlumCaptain21,007 posts
10 Aug 2023, 12:41
#20
10 Aug 2023, 12:41#20

So, you wouldn't start Eben and RG?



DE
Deus Ex LemurPro2,355 posts
10 Aug 2023, 15:44
#21
10 Aug 2023, 15:44#21

Lood,s is not the player his reputation use to be…

There, corrected. If you want to see how great Lood was, rewa tch the Welsh test of 2015 and the NZ test in the WC. Lood never changed, your perception has changed. 

SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
10 Aug 2023, 15:50
#22
10 Aug 2023, 15:50#22
So Doos you are telling us Matfield has no idea what he is talking about?? You dumb arrogant twat
KI
kingcornPro3,695 posts
10 Aug 2023, 16:28
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10 Aug 2023, 16:28#23

We all know Orie is not the best lock in SA. He never steals any balls, gets knock back in the tackle and offer no go forward, limo in the tight exchanges. 

Matfield will of course say he is the best given that he is now a TV pundit, they give him a pay cheque and he can't say anything negative or raise questions about certain players. 

It has to be all positivity. 

I would either move PSDT back to lock. Bring in a genuine seven either like Louw or Jean Luc.  Some one that makes a number of tackles, great at busting tackles and can hit the rucks hard 

DE
Deus Ex LemurPro2,355 posts
10 Aug 2023, 16:30
#24
10 Aug 2023, 16:30#24

Dan is much better than Jean Luc. 

SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
10 Aug 2023, 16:54
#25
10 Aug 2023, 16:54#25
Bullshit Doos there is nothing between JL and Dan - stop speaking out of your arse as usual And you want us to believe you know more than Matfield Fuck me you are both an insult and a joke but don’t change a thing - we need a source of amusement on here
DE
Deus Ex LemurPro2,355 posts
10 Aug 2023, 16:57
#26
10 Aug 2023, 16:57#26

Clown Pants, I don't believe Matfield is being entirely honest. Do you honestly think Matfield is ever going to berate a player? When has he ever done so? Stop thinking an acting like a child. As if Matfield is going to act like a cheap Ruckersforum member ! 

SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
10 Aug 2023, 17:08
#27
10 Aug 2023, 17:08#27
Listen here fuckwit Matfield could have just said Lood was a good player but he did not, he said he was the best 5 in the game He did not need to say that at all, but he meant it and I’m not surprised for Lood at his best is the best 5 in the game. RG would be the best 5 if he actually played Right now Barrett is bashing the door down at 5 Basically Doos - Matfield has made your name mud - but what I love about you is that you are too fucking stupid to comprehend this fact and you will continue to discredit the views of the best 5 to ever play the game and you will keep telling us how shit Lood is Same applies to PSDT selected as the world player of the year and you expect us to believe that a shit player comes even close to receiving that accolade. That would be the case if a Mostert or an Orie won that award Same applies to DA being selected as the worlds best 12 last year by three different sources But hey ho, Matfield, world rugby and 3 pundits know less than a twat like you Go figure - but please don’t stop You are a laugh with every time you post
DE
Deus Ex LemurPro2,355 posts
10 Aug 2023, 17:13
#28
10 Aug 2023, 17:13#28

Lood has never stood tall against any other lock he has ever played against. He'll best be remembered for his hands of stone against Wales and his awful defence against New Zealand. Overrated and useless. He lumbers around struggling to keep up with the game, he is always overpowered by players many times smaller. He is weak, slow, unskilled, slow of mind, lethargic. He isn't merely not the best 5 in the game. He is one of the worst locks we have ever fielded. Orie is better than Lood, quite comfortably. Lood is a very poor man's Muller. 

SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
10 Aug 2023, 17:19
#29
10 Aug 2023, 17:19#29
There we go you fucking useless Cunt - telling us Matfield has no idea what he is talking about Orie comfortably better than Lood - geez you are soooooo fucking stupid
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