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McCaw to take a six month sabbatical from rugby

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sharkbokCaptain23,301 posts
23 Sept 2012, 02:19
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23 Sept 2012, 02:19#1

McCaw to take a six month sabbatical from rugby Crusaders captain Richie McCaw won't play much Super Rugby in 2013

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All Blacks and Crusaders captain Richie McCaw will miss most of next year's Super Rugby tournament if not all of it as well as the All Blacks June tests as he will take a six month sabbatical next year.

The New Zealand Rugby Union included a clause in his contract which allows him to take a break from rugby in New Zealand and this break has been made in order to prolong his career to the 2015 Rugby World Cup.

Crusaders coach Todd Blackadder has revealed that the 31-year-old flanker will invoke a clause in his contract with the New Zealand Rugby Union that allows him to take a "sabbatical."

The decision means McCaw will miss a three-test series against France in June and the majority of the 2013 Super 15 Rugby tournament.

He is unlikely to be available for the Crusaders before July.

Blackadder told the Sunday Star-Times "it is definitely going to happen. Richie is going to take a sabbatical."

"He won't be available for the tests or Super rugby so he's going to get a good break."

 

sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,301 posts
23 Sept 2012, 02:20
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23 Sept 2012, 02:20#2

a good example of player management. When Gary Tiechman requested the same thing in a World Cup year he was denied. He played his heart out for the Sharks and got injured, and then dropped from the World Cup squad that year.

We should have a national contract that determines how many matches a player can play in the SuperXV. Andries Bekker has been played into the ground and could have been a Bok great, if he had played less in the SuperXV

BO
Bokkilla1Rookie30 posts
23 Sept 2012, 02:30
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23 Sept 2012, 02:30#3
My posts have been deleted due to extreme profanity. I love the Springboks and I apologise for being sheepish.
CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
23 Sept 2012, 09:06
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23 Sept 2012, 09:06#4

There could be some sense in McCaw taking a sabbatical - because there is the need to slowly cater for his ultimnate replacement in the team.   I doi not think even a sabbatical would mean that his effective playing career could be extended to 2015 - when he will be 36 years of age.  

Lets face facts - McCaw is still very good - but he is showing signs of going down as a loosie and that is not going to change by a sabbatical.

Sharkbok

The Teichmann replacement was not entirely due to injury.   Mallett for a variety of reasons did not get along with Teichmann and they did not even converse by telephone for 6 months before his dismissal as captain.   Mallett made his own contribution to the 2000 world cup disaster and the dismissal of Teichmann was only one of the factors that caused problems.   

Bokkilla1

Bekker is twice the player New Zealand can put up as a lock.   Granted he is tall and may enevtually sufffer back problems - but he is not too slight and he an take hits.   That is in contrast to Retallick - that is also tall - but show nothing constructive in either line out play or tight forward play.    We do not think the players are demmi-gods - like New Zealanders do in respect of their players - and we do  retain the right to criticize them if their play is not up to standard.

Similarly we do not imagine things about certain players like happened in the case of two players mentioned herein.  McCaw and Reid was not really effective in the Dunedin test.   Reid especially did not play a game that he should consider as being a very good one.   However, we do not rave about a player like they did on the Re-Union program purely because his name is McCaw.     During the whole course of the game each of the two was only really noticeable during two instances - namely the try of Dagg - where Reid made a good off-load in a tackle situation and when Cruden missed the penalty kick and McCaw followed up the kick effectively.   For the rest Reid was poor - giving away too many penalties and being totally ineffective - while McCaw was very average without this time giving away penalties.     He was in fact kept to nothing by a rookie called Louw.  

The above are just two examples - but we did more specifically criticized players in the Springbok team - but criticism by responsible people relates to fact and not impression of biased thinking - like the above two cases I dealt with more specitically.

 

BR
BrycyPro4,671 posts
23 Sept 2012, 09:53
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23 Sept 2012, 09:53#5

...Hail King Richie..long may he kick yr  _______ butt ...haha....bro according to Phil Loosehead Len Gifford...

 

OPINION: Richie McCaw is the greatest All Black of all time.

I never dreamed I'd ever write that phrase. In more than 30 years of speaking at rugby clubs the easiest question to answer was, “Who's the best All Black you've ever seen?” My reply was always “Colin Meads”.

Not that anything's happened to change my opinion about Meads.

I first saw the man they call Pinetree play for King Country in Paeroa in 1960, and was on the press bench at Eden Park in 1971 when he played his last test.

He was an extraordinary footballer who people in the media like myself have almost treated unfairly by dwelling on the hugely entertaining legends that grew around him, rather than his staggering abilities.

It is hard to resist, as just one example, a story his close friend Kel Tremain told, of how, after Meads was kicked in the head in a test in Paris in 1967, he had his lacerated scalp bandaged and then worked his way through the French pack one by one, exacting terrible revenge. “One of them asked him why he was hitting him,” said Tremain, “and Piney said, ‘Well I know it was ONE of you buggers'.” It's less colourful to note that Meads wasn't just a form of divine retribution in footy boots, although, if the need arose, he could be.

He was a massively gifted player, who years before Sonny Bill Williams was even a glint in a marketing guru's eye, could, and did, easily hold the ball in one hand. Meads could run and pass beautifully, and even, at the risk of ruining his reputation, sidestep. But his forte was the hand to hand stuff, and I'd seriously suggest that if a 1960s vintage Meads had been in the All Black pack in Dunedin last weekend, the Springbok dominance of the mauls would have come to a grinding, painful halt. In the modern game Meads would be just as effective as he was in the day, probably as a No 8 or blindside flanker. Just as a terminator like Jerome Kaino discourages short side attacks, heaven help the halfback or No 8 who tried to sneak down the Meads side of a scrum.

So why, if Meads was that good, am I now saying McCaw is the greatest?

I wouldn't have suggested it even a couple of years ago, but after the World Cup last year, and his other-worldly effort in Dunedin, it's time to reassess.

When he started his All Black career he was a terrific fetcher, and the best in the world at winning turnover ball.

He had a place in the All Blacks for life if he'd never done anything else.

But along the way he decided he could add more by becoming a carrier of the ball, to the point where he now smashes up field for metre after metre in every test he plays.

Then there's his captaincy. Almost from the time he got back from the embarrassment of the 2007 World Cup quarterfinal, people in Canterbury rugby noticed a new steely edge to McCaw. By the time the final was reached in 2011 he was so much his own man he ignored instructions from the coaches' box to kick long, and chose to grind it out. The last 30 minutes, he told coach Graham Henry, had been the best, most enjoyable, of his life. Because he presents in interviews as easy-going and non-threatening, as he actually is when he's not wearing a rugby jersey, it's easy to overlook how very, very tough McCaw is.

He played the whole World Cup campaign on a fractured foot, he's regularly smacked over by thugs like Dean Greyling, and he shrugs the attacks off.

You could add superhuman self-control to his attributes.

The only time he's ever thrown a punch on the field was to stop the South African slob who attacked referee Dave McHugh in Durban.

It's McCaw's captaincy that moves him into the greatest spot for me.

Ignore the cheap shots by English media hacks too lazy to stop recycling the “McCaw's a cheat” mantra - he's not only our best player, he's also our best captain.

And if you don't believe me, take the advice of the late, great Fred Allen, and, as he always said, “have a look at the bloody record”.

For a start, McCaw has done something so amazing it's almost freakish. At the very highest level he's reinvented himself as a player.

CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
23 Sept 2012, 12:18
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23 Sept 2012, 12:18#6

Brycy

Thanks for the article - there is no doubt that McCaw was a great plyer and captain.   I do not much believe in articles by fawning journalists and really believe what is happening now.   Mind you I for one never said he cheated - he may have tried the limit of what permissible - but also picked up enough penalties  in the proccess. 

McCaw is now down to the level of a good player - not the great player he was two years ago.   Anybody not recognising that lives in a fool's paradise. 

BO
BoklogicPro1,978 posts
23 Sept 2012, 14:14
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23 Sept 2012, 14:14#7

 The intellict of you kiwi's amazes me. Bokkilla and Brycy.. Why do you get satisfaction out of getting personal? Its so juvenile and not a good look for you and your countrymen. Attack us with facts and records all you want but dont get childish.

 

Bokkilla has used the word "useless" with every single SA player he has mentioned in every post...The way he speaks you would think he was the most decorated international player of all time and not some couch potato with a keyboard. Who are you to call anyone useless?

 

You kiwi's really need to grow up man.

BO
Bokkilla1Rookie30 posts
23 Sept 2012, 14:38
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23 Sept 2012, 14:38#8
My posts have been deleted due to extreme profanity. I love the Springboks and I apologise for being sheepish.
BE
Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
25 Sept 2012, 18:02
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25 Sept 2012, 18:02#9

Hey brycy do you think there is a connection between the pounding mcaaaaaw got and the sabbatical decision  - he probably realises one more game against the Boks  is about as much as he can handle for a while?

Just asking .

CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
26 Sept 2012, 12:20
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26 Sept 2012, 12:20#10

Beeno

Let me add something.  McCaw is not the first player to take a so-called sabbatical.   The outcome was the same in all cases - when the player returned he was not more than 10% as effective as he was previously.   If my memory serve me correctly one of those players were Wilkinson - a typical example of what I said herein. 

I remain convinced that McCaw in another year would go down further - he has shown some decline already compared to what he was previously- say 2 years ago.   It is likely that his continued presence in the All Black team would gradually decrease  the efficiency of the team and help opposing teams.     

It is for opposing teams fortunate that the New Zealanders ignore the signs and keep on thinking about McCaw for 2015.   They also refuse to realize that he has no chance to be effective at the age of 36.   Let them dream on - it can only be to our benefit.

BE
Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
26 Sept 2012, 13:05
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26 Sept 2012, 13:05#11

Mike I am just pulling ou brycy's leg - and he knows it.

Of course mcaaaaaw could benefit from a rest. Although this one seems longer than necessary and may see him battle to get back. He is on the down and refs are picking him up a bit more.

If Schalk and Juan return fully healed we may see some fireworks from them?  Personally I have doubts as to Juan being a dominant player again. Schalk was SA player of the year as recently as  2011 and is younger so maybe he can come back.

Juan is 31 and Schalk 29.

AJ
Arthur JohnPro1,748 posts
28 Sept 2012, 02:35
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28 Sept 2012, 02:35#12

 According to the guys at our rugby forum we have, McCaw needs the six months break so that the NZ rugby union can teach him the rule changes.

They are simple changes but he will require at least six months of repetion to actually absorb and retain the information.

Joking of course...he is a great player unfortunately, for SA.

HA
hakwaPro4,146 posts
28 Sept 2012, 03:06
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28 Sept 2012, 03:06#13

we the ABs management have sat down and come with the plan that McCaw will spend that 6months in an oxygen hyperbaric chamber to rejuvunate and will only play in Bledisloe Cup Challenges and only when the Rugby Championship Cup is in danger of leaving NZs shores (may that never come to pass) and a Test Match is in the balance.

Unfortunately for you saffer boys, you will have to find something else to whinge and carry on about - I assume that won't be hard to do since you' ve had lots and lots of practise lately - I think you are actually leading in IRB Whingers Ranking

IRB Whingers Rankings

1. Boks fans/players/former coaches and media.

2. Wobblies fans/former players/CURRENT players (ala Quade Cooper) and media

3. Pommies fans and media

4. Brian O'Driscoll

5. Samoan fans/players and PM (LOL)

6. Welsh fans

7. USA

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