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Meyer as Bok coach

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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
24 Jan 2012, 11:44
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24 Jan 2012, 11:44#1

Ex Keo

JON CARDINELLI writes that Heyneke Meyer will bring a working rugby knowledge, a trophy cabinet of experience and some much needed integrity to the Springbok coaching position.

In a two-horse race where Meyer and Gert Smal were the competitors, South African rugby was always going to be the winner (Agreed a big step up from what we had). Both are decorated coaches who have enjoyed title-winning success with their respective teams, and both are renowned for their cerebral approach to the game.

For four years, South Africa has been devoid of a leader who possesses such experience and qualities, and predictably those four years have witnessed South Africa finishing stone last in three out of four Tri-Nations tournaments and exiting the 2011 World Cup at the quarter-final stage.

It would appear that the dark days are over. Until a few days ago, Smal was touted as the favourite for the Bok coaching job, an appointment that should have been welcomed and celebrated as the dawn of a new era. Aside from his stint with the 2007 World Cup-winning side, he has also featured prominently for Ireland as a forwards coach and was rightly lauded following their Grand Slam win in 2009. His views on transformation are well-documented, and had he got the top job, he would have worked hard to influence a greater representation across all levels of South African rugby.

Unfortunately, Saru and Smal could not come to an agreement regarding his salary. There were other reasons that contributed to his decision to remain in Ireland, such as the fact that he has committed to the side until 2013 and his family have built a life in Dublin since settling there in 2008. Just as was the case four years ago, South Africa’s loss is Ireland’s gain. (Ditto Mallet an dEngland if that happens - Jake at brumbies etc))

In Meyer, however, the Boks have another outstanding and potentially game-changing candidate, and so the dawn of a new era should still come to pass. His career at the Bulls remains the stuff of legend, having arrived at the turn of the century and implemented changes and systems that formed the bedrock for a dynasty. If ever there was a man that could take a team that has failed in the past and restore them as champions, Meyer is that man.

The Bulls’ mentor has been offered the job by Saru and is likely to take it. Many felt he was ready for the responsibility in 2008, and only a late change by Saru saw Peter de Villiers walking into the Bok coach’s first official press conference. De Villiers walked into that presser wearing a Bulls blazer, a union synonymous with Meyer, and that should have triggered an alarm. De Villiers never fit that blazer just as he never fit the role. He also failed to grow into it as time progressed.

It could be speculated that Meyer would have avoided the mistakes and built on the success of Jake White’s tenure. It could be said that Meyer would have ensured that some of the best players ever to emerge from this country recorded more than a 62% winning ratio over the course of those four years.(THAT GENTLEMEN IS THE TRADEGY - OUR CUPBOARD HAS BEEN FULL OVER THESE 4 YEARS) If Meyer was instated, future generations may have reflected on a golden age instead of one golden year (2009).(Fully agree)

But that time has gone, and SA rugby has to move forward. While Meyer won’t have the benefit of working with a team stacked with grizzled title winners, he is the right man to nurture and develop the young talent that’s set to replace Victor Matfield and company. As his record at the Bulls will confirm, he has an exceptional eye for talent and his man-management is of the highest order.

The appointment will be confirmed this Friday, and all South Africans should mark this as a significant day for Bok rugby. Meyer has the means to restore some pride to a side that exited the 2011 World Cup in humiliating fashion (Rubbish they were robbed blind by nz ref of the year Bryce Lawrence - a horrendous performace by the ref). He will have a plan to bring the Boks immediate and long-term success, as a World Cup should never be the only tournament on which a top nation is judged. The Boks should win 80% of their matches, and with Meyer in charge that goal is certainly attainable.

A challenging yet exciting road lies ahead. Fortunately for South Africa, the right man will be driving the bus.

 

I don't think anyone can quibble with his appointment. One may have wanted someone else but this guy has earned a shot. I just hope he makes the right choice re a backline coach. Folk speak of Paul Tru bu the 15 man game is very different. Witness how few of these sevens boks get nowhere in the 15 man game. Less space, more physicality required etc. No lets not gamble, get in a proven top man even if from overseas/ Get the best we can.

Let Tru start coaching in the 15 man game and let see what the can do.  Those coaching the boks must be proven men.

 


 

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CeradynePro9,374 posts
24 Jan 2012, 14:18
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24 Jan 2012, 14:18#2

I am not too sure if the entire post is Cardinelli's post. I have an idea that some of it may have been changed or added. It certainly seems like it in any case. Be that as it may, Mr Cardinelli has certainly changed his tune from the previously well informed stance about the future Bok coach. Just recently, he had information that it was going to be Gert Smal. I know that it is easy to say this in hindsight, but it would have been stupid for Gert to get back to SA at this stage. He will qualify for residency at the end of 2013, and it would be daft to let go of such an opportunity.

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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
24 Jan 2012, 14:34
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24 Jan 2012, 14:34#3

Ho Ceradyne, I hear Small is a man of absolute integrity and will honour the terms of his contract. s oreally wasn't in the running. 

Meyer needs to quickly secure Rassie and, in my opinion, Brendan Venter. If he cant get Venter he needs to scour the world for a backline coach.

How refreshing it would be to have an intelligent Bok coaching team!!!! The sky becomes the limit

 

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CeradynePro9,374 posts
24 Jan 2012, 15:27
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24 Jan 2012, 15:27#4

Brendan Venter is not in the fold, and will not be. Under Meyer's supervision Rassie just might learn what it takes to be a great coach, but in the meantime, Meyer will make full use of Rassie's forte, which is analyzing his own team and that of the opposition, so that Meyer can develop and put his strategies in place, and select the right players to execute it..

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ChippoPro3,372 posts
24 Jan 2012, 15:47
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24 Jan 2012, 15:47#5

Am i the only oke that isnt a Heyneke fan?

I've ALWAYS found his direct approach a bit 1 dimensional.

And whilst he's had a lot of success at franshchise and provincial level, i'm a bit sceptical about his as a Bok coach.

The game is changing every year. Its becoming more dynamic abd creative every season.

With water tight defenses, coaches are having to come up with new novel and creative ways to unlock defensive systems.

In my opinion, Heyneke has always relied on bullocking forwards and flashy wingers. But nowdays, you need a lot more than that kind of direct approach if you wish to be successful against the AB's, Frogs and Kiwis.

 

Thoughts????

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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
24 Jan 2012, 15:56
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24 Jan 2012, 15:56#6

Chippo perhaps it is true to say no one man has it all. But Meyer hopefully has the nous to put together a team to do the job and keep them going etc.

I am concerend about the backline coach. Can a sevens man do the job. Surely this is  an unnecessary gamble to have True as backline coach. 

 

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CeradynePro9,374 posts
24 Jan 2012, 16:01
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24 Jan 2012, 16:01#7

@Chippo. Heyneke Meyer is no stranger to the Bok set-up. He has worked within the Bok set-up with both White and Mallett.

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UsernamePro1,098 posts
24 Jan 2012, 16:39
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24 Jan 2012, 16:39#8

More dynamic? I disagree with that. Every season there is a gimmick. The game has actually become far less dynamic. Things are done far less out wide, fewer risks are taken. There is nothing about the game that really is new since the ELVs. Meyer's Bulls have been the most well rounded of the provincial sides. By far the best candidate outside of Jake White. Very true about Paul though, it is a risk, but Meyer more than likely knowsenough about him to know he will do the job.

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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
25 Jan 2012, 11:23
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25 Jan 2012, 11:23#9

Card I just hope Meyer is given a free reig to choose his management team.

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caetusRookie54 posts
25 Jan 2012, 22:22
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25 Jan 2012, 22:22#10

Meyer would be a fool to accept a managment team he does not agree with. He would set himself up for failure. Why would he give up a "safe" job at the Bulls for the more riskier job at the Boks if he couldnt make absolutely sure of limiting the risk by choosing his own team?

 

If Treu is announced, rest assured he is Meyers choice.

BTW I still dont buy the fact that Meyer is definitely getting the job. There is too much wailing from the Bulls camp for this to be a certainty. What bets Divvy stays on for a few more months?

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allyphintNewbie4 posts
27 Jan 2012, 14:29
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27 Jan 2012, 14:29#11

Hey guys,

Nobody better suited for the Bok coaching role IMO.  Well done to SARU and the Bulls for making this work.

The Springboks will be a force to be reckoned with.

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