06 Aug 2014, 15:26#2
Another player I have huge respect for, but FFS, there are dinosaur fossils that haven't been around as long!
RORooinek
Captain18,117 posts
RORooinekCaptain18,117 posts
06 Aug 2014, 15:35#3
If . . . and unfortunately it's a big "if" . . . Juan Smith is still the player he was four years ago then this is great news!
I was a big fan of Juan Smith back then . . . hope he's not going to go the same route as Bakkies, Matfield and John Smit and play a season or two too many.
JEJeromeV
Club Pro492 posts
06 Aug 2014, 16:11#4
Juan Smith is a decent replacement with experience but his form is nowhere close to what it use to be. Should rather be looking at the superior loose forwards that were on form in the Super 15. Meyer said Juan has played lock before and is comfortable in that position, having said that he could start ahead of De Jager or Lewies. That would be unfortunate because those talented young locks need to be developed.
GTGonzo the Great
Club Pro560 posts
GTGonzo the GreatClub Pro560 posts
06 Aug 2014, 17:37#5
juan is better than alberts kolisi and the rest. lets face it he is like carter, just too good for the next in line to better. lood is damn good but meyerr is covering his bases and lewis is just a sad joke. even Peter steph is a joke.
06 Aug 2014, 18:50#8
I cannot quite agree. It took him a few weeks to get settled and become one of the key players in that Toulon side and that was after a lay-off and rehab of (what was it?) two years+? There is no way that we would know for sure that Whitely and Carr were better, or worse, than him. Ou Maaikie seems to crap in his best dress when I say it, and for some reason I get the feeling that you might have the same tendencies about it, but we cannot get away from the fact that Meyer is at this stage probably a bit concerned about the lack of proven leadership at test level within the team. Whitely would, IMO, have ticked that box but he hasn't even been near a Bok team yet. The right time for him, I think, would be the EOYT.
You said:"......having said that he could start ahead of De Jager or Lewies. That
could be unfortunate because those young locks need to be developed".
That, to me, look like a strong suggestion that it could well happen, in your opinion. You are the one who made remarks that were misleading.
GTGonzo the Great
Club Pro560 posts
GTGonzo the GreatClub Pro560 posts
06 Aug 2014, 19:04#10
earl rose? ROFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!
DBDbDraad
Captain26,388 posts
DBDbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
06 Aug 2014, 19:47#11
Pienaar did better at 10 than some of the others we had since 2007, but Morne was and still is better. Lambie and Goosen has not yet convinced for the Boks and Marnitz did not get a proper chance yet. I'm still hopefull that he might be the one to make the 10 spot his post Morne.
06 Aug 2014, 19:52#12
Peter Grant or Earl Rose....?
DBDbDraad
Captain26,388 posts
DBDbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
06 Aug 2014, 19:57#13
Grant had his moment's but then you would have had to have a 15 who could kick more than 40m.
DBDbDraad
Captain26,388 posts
DBDbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
06 Aug 2014, 20:34#15
Moz, you lost me at the start already. I'm not nearly as well read as I would like to be. Rooinek has got a smooth mouth on him, but he also blunders from time to time. No shame in that, but for the hell of it I can't understand why it is so important to posters to be right all the time. Why can't everyone just get along? :-) (Jack Nicholson in "Mars Attacks")
RORooinek
Captain18,117 posts
RORooinekCaptain18,117 posts
06 Aug 2014, 22:30#16
LMAO! Looks like I've upset the spiteful and childish old fop to the extent that he's going through all his archives of Rooinek posts that he collects and then pasting them . . . after changing a few names here and there!
Pfffffffffffffffffhahahahahahaha!
Talk about obsessed! Talk about pathetic!
MOMozart
Captain49,914 posts
MOMozartCaptain49,914 posts
06 Aug 2014, 23:23#17
Draad I can actually find a Camus quote which covers your objection:
"The need to be right is the sign of a vulgar mind"
But what better way to deal with a vulgar mind like that of RooiAAS than to prove him wrong time and again.