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hakwaPro4,146 posts
14 Oct 2014, 00:29
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14 Oct 2014, 00:29#1

Article by Armand Van Zyl 


Two weeks ago Heyneke Meyer’s Springboks finally managed to defeat Steve Hansen’s All Blacks. It was the first time in his tenure that the Boks got a win over rugby’s number one side.

The win was a sign of good things to come for the Boks, not because of the emphatic win but because of the way in which it was achieved.

The Boks, who had become world renowned for their dull, physical and kicking play, offered a much better type of style to the All Blacks than expected and it paid dividends.

But for the first time in ages things look bright for Springbok rugby. For years on end the South African public yearned for evolution in the Bok gameplan and at long last they have delivered exactly that.

But now credit is due to the passionate Bok mentor. Meyer has addressed a number of problems during the past three years. The most noticeable of these is the Bok presence at the breakdown.

Richie Grey has transformed this team to become the very best at the breakdown, something you would have credited to the All Blacks a few years ago. Indeed the Boks have been the best team in the world as far as the breakdown is concerned for two years running now.

Duane Vermeulen, Francois Louw, Marcell Coetzee, Bismarck du Plessis, Adriaan Strauss and even Bryan Habana have stamped their authority as fetchers in world rugby and have proven themselves to be highly influential against the All Blacks.

In fact the Boks have become so good at stealing ball that they, as a collective, haven’t sacrificed their discipline in doing so either. Against both the All Blacks and Wallabies in all four games the Boks have not been penalised more than four times for breakdown infringements. That is a telling statistic.

But now comes the question. What has sparked this significant change in the Springbok philosophy?

Well, earlier this year Meyer and Springbok captain Jean de Villiers came out saying that they recognise the fact that one cannot bludgeon the opposition with big forwards continuously anymore and that they must now stress the importance of out-thinking their opponents.

This was reinforced with Handre Pollard’s interview a week ago wherein he stated directly that “the days of kicking the ball away are over”.

But in reality the big change can be tracked back to November 2013, following the Springbok victory over France in Paris. After this game Meyer immediately headed out to meet with all the unions in the country.

First he set out to meet with the Blue Bulls, followed by the Natal Sharks and then the Free State Cheetahs, the Golden Lions and finally Western Province.

What was said was left ambiguous. Until now.

An article on SuperSport titled “WP help drive Heyneke’s revolution” clarified the nature of Meyer’s meetings with the unions. It was revealed that Meyer asked for the assistance of the unions to help implement a new strategy to the Springboks. Of all the unions asked, only Western Province complied immediately.

During the second half of the Super Rugby season a noticeable change was seen in the Stormers’ tactics. They had begun running the ball. Currently in the Currie Cup, Western Province have taken their attacking ability to a whole new level.

In July, coach Allister Coetzee said that the club had spoken with Meyer and were playing in line with the direction the Boks wanted to take.

We wanted to introduce this system earlier during Super Rugby but we were prevented from doing so because of the 23 injuries we suffered in the season,” Coetzee said.

“But now we have decided to press on with it”

Coetzee said the Stormers couldn’t play an attacking game without the players being conditioned to do so. The Stormers introduced a “red session” practice every Tuesday for all their age group teams.

During this session the players are pushed to place they have never been. It consists of 80 minutes or pure fitness, with a 10-minute break, just like in a real game scenario.

“This ensures that the training is even tougher than an actual game of rugby,” Coetzee said.

“To me what was telling against the Blue Bulls was how we made 263 tackles and despite that we turned the ball over 15 times and scored three 40 to 80 metre tries while offloading the ball 12 times and breaking the line eight times,” Coetzee said.

“We really surprised them with the tempo of our play.”

Coetzee also said that the Stormers’ had no problems with contracted players not currently playing Currie Cup for the good of Meyer and the Springboks.

“While it would have been good to have someone like Damian de Allende back with us we understand Heyneke’s request,” Coetzee said.

“He wants to turn Damian into an outside centre because that’s where he wants to start him at the World Cup.”

“I have spoken to Damian and he is eager to learn the subtleties of outside centre, he wants to learn how to organise a defence in the back line, which is something Jan Serfontein also lacks.

“He is very eager to make the swap and I’ll help Heyneke with that by playing Damian at 13 as well.”

Of all the unions asked to help the Bok cause only three have submitted thus far. The Bulls and the Sharks have been said to be particularly stubborn in regards to Meyer’s plea.

To me this is understandable.

The Sharks, especially under Jake White, were never going to change their style. Jake just wouldn’t leave JakeBall. However the Sharks are now rid of him and I suspect we could see a change soon.

The Bulls are the architects of the kick-chase game. They have been playing it for years on end and it is understandable that it will take time for them to adjust.

For the first time a Springbok coach seems to be getting the support he needs from his unions and now the ball is in his court. Players like Eben Etzebeth, Duane Vermeulen, Jean de Villiers and Damian de Allende have not yet been subjected to the Stormers’ new philosophy nor their “red sessions”.

Expect these players to come out next year looking much better in terms of conditioning and skill levels. Hopefully both the Sharks and Bulls will follow suit.


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sharkbokCaptain23,294 posts
14 Oct 2014, 00:46
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14 Oct 2014, 00:46#2
Yes Jake White's "Jake Ball" is worse than Bulls rugby. It is just dependent on having the biggest pack. The Sharks lead most of the tournament but fell apart at the end. 
Watching WP running the ball has been good. The Sharks are WP have traditionally been the most expansive teams but in recent years have really gotten too conservative. 
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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
14 Oct 2014, 09:59
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14 Oct 2014, 09:59#3
 what utter rubbish is thsi Jakeball nonsense. Who will forget some of the brilliant running rug by the brumbies played under Jake. also the RWC winning side ran the ball well. 
Jake will look at who he has , the oppostion and plan how to beat them. The Sharks had a lot of injuries this season leading to certain guys being overplayed and a fall off of form. However who will ever fprget the sharks beating the hapless cristies with 13 men on the field. Priceless.Now we have the uniformed picking up on this stupid mantra. Jake doesnt need to be told how his side should play by anyone.
Wake up sharkbok!
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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
14 Oct 2014, 10:01
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14 Oct 2014, 10:01#4
I have to agree the bulle have been slowest to adapt. But it will come. This si nt rocket science. One needs to excell in all aspects of the game. as for size dont think for amoment you can go too small. You will get hammered. You need size, skill, pace skills etc. All of it.
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
14 Oct 2014, 10:19
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14 Oct 2014, 10:19#5
 Playing a more expansive game does not mean the Springboksare copying NZ style of play.   It is a natural development for them since their previous style of play had serious limitations.   The problem was they struggled to win matches they shoould have won with ease - and lost mtches they should have won.
To make a more expansive game wotk there were some key changed to be made.   Their flyhalf for yars have been Morne Steyn - but he is not a player that can contribute to a more expansive game.   The previously broughtin Le Roux - who added value to that type of game and it is taking shape now with the removal of Morne Steyn fromthe flyhalf position.  
That changed the scenario and the All Blacks in both tests this year in fact struggled in their defense against backline attacks by the Springboks.   That being the case - there is one element still missing - but that would also be eliminated in time to come.   The missing element is better linking of the loosieswith the backline in attacking play.   I am sure that they are working on that one as well and players like Botha and Labuschagne are known for that kind of play and may come into the picture in future.  
         
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
14 Oct 2014, 10:36
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14 Oct 2014, 10:36#6
 Beeno
There really are two isses about the performances of the Sharks and Bulls this year that cause haovc in respect of thir backline performances.  When Lambie got injured - White lost the plot completely by playing Francois Steyn at flyhalf.   Plumtree was correct about Steyn not being a center - he is not an effective center for a variety of reasons.  Steyn is ineffective at center and his flyhalf play resulted in the dreaded dead backline syndrome in evidence in the Sharks this year.   Steyn was an ineffective center and a worse flyhalf. Be it as it may - Steyn was the bad element in the Sharks backline and the team never got going in playing a better backline game.    Since his departure - the Sharks backline hads been more effective in the CC competition.   I  would not call it Jakeball - I would call it Clueless Steynball.   Where Jake was wroong was to stick with Steyn till the bitter end and his refusal to consider change.   I think that is what caused problems in teh Sharks set-up and ultimately led to his departure from the Sharks.   I doubt very much if Frncois Steyn would make the Sharks team next year in Super 15 and expect a much more expansive game as a result.
The Bulls were never a team playing an expansive backline game - Morne Steyn being their flyhalf until this year put pay to that one.   They brought in Fouche at flyhalf this year and he was a serious flop.   They then brought in Potgiter - but in essence he is a Morne clone.   So where are they now?  The one wise thing they did was to contract Pollard.  The next wise thing for them was to contract Strauss and Labuschagne.   I expect they would have a much more expansive game next year in Super 15.   
       
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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
14 Oct 2014, 15:44
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14 Oct 2014, 15:44#7
 The Bulle unfortunately are loosing Willemse and may be stuck with Matfiled. Imagine having Hattingh and matfiled as yout two locks!!! Du Plessis will probably have to move to lock but all of a sudden the bulle for once are short on real locks!
Strauss is a big plus and the front rwo will be good with Greyling Strauss and Marcell.Loose forwards - hattingh back to 7 I guess,labuschagne to 8?.Bulle backline has potential.Move JJ to wing.Kriel at 15. 
Of course we dont  know who the bulle will be buying they always seem to have endless funds. They have of course compeltely stuffed up the Ch eetahs again - the parasites!




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CeradynePro9,374 posts
14 Oct 2014, 16:23
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14 Oct 2014, 16:23#8
 Beeno seems to forget that the Bul ls have also signed Trevor Nyakane.
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
14 Oct 2014, 16:41
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14 Oct 2014, 16:41#9
 Beeno
There is one other player you have elft out in dealing with the Bulls loosies and that is Arno Botha.   I think they will play Botha at 8 and Labuschagne at 7 or vice versa.   I also think that Du Plessis will move to lock.  That will leave them with a problem at  6.   Stegmann is off to Japan again and he may not be available.  Thy have also Nicholaas Janse van Rensburg as a lock - he is a tough bugger as well.   
Matfield is a headache.   The Bulls scrum was very the past two weekends without Matfield - but when he turms up  - they will be buggered again.   Too slap - that one.      
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ShezzaPro2,471 posts
14 Oct 2014, 16:50
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14 Oct 2014, 16:50#10
 That was a good read and very informative.
Looks like De Jong is going to be replaced by De Allende at 13 which is good news and also nice to see a WP working well with the Bok coach unlike some *Cough* Sharks *Cough*.

With rich Soccer clubs that buy vast amount of players there is a problem, the players are unfamiliar with their surroundings, wouldn't hope too much from the Bulls next year as this rule applies also.
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
14 Oct 2014, 17:44
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14 Oct 2014, 17:44#11
Shezza
The issue is really falling into place in view of the rmarks made by Meyer and it is c;ear that the Bulls will have little say in the matter.   They have three players in contention for selection (Pollard, Sefontein and JJ)  for the Springboks and one possibility (Jesse kriel).I would not be surprised to see JJ moved to the wing - that is if the Bulls comply with Meyer's request.
Insofar as De Allende is concerned - I think that the Stormers will move De Jongh to the wing to accommodate De Villiers and De Allnde as a center pair.   De Jongh s a handy player - but not good enough at center - his defense is sieve-like and seriously problematic.    
I wonder whether Jake White's refusal to co-operate with Meyer was the final nail in his coffin?    He was stuck in the kick and chase game - the only thing his favourite Francois Steyn could really do - and then not very effective either.    The Sharks this year suffered from that dreaded dead backline syndrome - but signs are lately that in the CC it has changed.   There will likely be a big change next year - only a pity that Jordaan will be out until April next year.   He makes a huge difference to the Sharks backline if and when he gets decent ball - which he did not get this year in Super 15.   
I think there will be  change in the Bulls set up next year as well.   Pollard will play according to Meyer's rules and not those of the Bulls and so would Hougaard - so the atttude off the Bulls may not make all that much of a difference.  
When will the Bulls get over the other dreaded  Morne Steyn syndrome?  I suppose never. 
Mozart is going to have a fit about this - he hates De Allende with a passion and thinks De Jongh walks on water.                 


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