Meyer is clueless

Mark my words this man does not have a clue. He is so single minded and is not capable of thinking outside the box. The selections do not come more conservative than the shit he has just dished out -

Kirchner, Basson, de Jongh, Morne, Pienaar, du Preez, STEENKAMP!!!, J.Kruger, Flip, F.v/d Merwe, Alberts.........give me a bloody break.

Meyer is a clueless coach and his selections really piss me off. Sack the bastard post the Championship for we wont beat Oz or NZ and we might scrape past Argentina.

That is a piss poor conservative squad.

@saffex,

i feel for u my man, and while i am LMFAO at meyers selections, know that i really am feeling ur pain.

dont WTF meyer was thinking with that joke of a squad, but hey maybe meyers plan is to make the All Blacks feel complacent, cos i cant see any kind of a 22 the Boks can make from that squad that will stop the All Blacks from doing that very big no no.

looks like 10 man rugby is about to be unleashed from the republic, its up to the the All Blacks and wallabies to put some spark in the RC/4nats.

 I really do not get it. They say the man is single minded, has a plan and will execute the plan no matter what and with that plan comes the same single mindedness with the selection of players.

Can it get any worse than the selection of fat Guthro Steenkamp who cant make the Toulousse starting 15. We have experienced props in the squad in Jannie and Beast, we have the almost established Coenie as the back-up, so why the fuck do we need a fat, unfit Steenkamp in the squad? What does that say to Kitshoff who has had a coming of age season for the Stormers. I had little time for Meyer prior to the selection of his squad, but this squad is the nail in the coffin for me.

Meyer's love affair with Kirchner continues, mark my word he will start ahead of Willie come that first test. Then we have the useless Basson on the wing, picked because he is great at plucking Morne's bombs, stuff the fact that he is physically out of his depth, adds nothing with ball in hand and is a defensive liability.

For how much longer are we going to see de Jongh in the set up, this has Jake and Adi Jacobs written all over it. de Jongh is a handy little player, but a test centre he is not, not even close. There is no need for him in the squad, move on.

With Morne at 10 and du Preez at 9, with Pienaar on the bench - wow, what are our tactics going to be? This clown just cant move on......its going to be kick, kick, kick with Basson and Habana chasing. When the ball is returned to the back, we will have the wonderfully gifted Kirchner launching yet another bomb.......once the game is well and truely lost, the inspirational Meyer will be sending Willie on to weave his magic!!

Meyer might think he will be playing 10 man rugby, but sadly with no grunt at 5, that plan is flawed. When will this twit wake up to the fact that Juandre Kruger and Franco v/d Merwe are not test locks - hell given his desire for the past, why is he not begging Matfield to come out of retirement.

I am surprised Bakkies is not in the squad, or CJ v/d Linde......we can thank our lucky stars Spies is injured.

Meyer is clueless.........bring back Jake!!

Saffex, for once i have to agree with you and nice to note you are not swearing.

With the anouncement of this squad, i sadly feel your predictions are correct the AB's and Aussie's need 5 mins preperation for the Boks as they know exactly what they will be facing. This is the third time i have been saying here that the Boks will play DUMB ASS rugby in kick and chase. It simply does not work.

Brussouw must be laughing all they way and probably happy he has been overlooked. Immagine all the work you have to put in only for Morne to aimlessly kick it away to the opposition. Fourie has been bought back for Meyers master plan. Kick from the base of the scrum for Basson to chase. That is going to win the Tests. That is the plan and only plan.

What a joke and even more so with the talent we have. I believe Meyer sounded out Danie Gerber as an impact player.

 Girls could you please all wipe away the tears. Man up for Pete's sake you are an embarassment for any genuine Bok fan

THE RC HASNT EVEN STARTED YET AND WE ARE DEAD IN THE WATER.

THOSE WRTING OFF MEYER AND THE BOKS NEED ONLY TO CONSIDER HOW MUCH EGG LANDED ON THEM LAST YEAR!

 I am still optimistic about Meyer.

Most of his dubious selections are not first choice Springboks and not likely to play. 

The Bulls are the only South Africa side to have won the SuperXV, having done this 3 times in the last 7 years. 

If he does select them as first choices then that will be more concerning

Some of the players below are not great, but then again neither are the other players who could have been choosen in their place.

Kirchner- Likely that Willie LeRoux starts, but if Kirchner starts then we really need to be concerned.

Kirchner was solid last year for the Boks and one of the better players. I would prefer Lambie as the back up fullback, with Kirchner currently in 3rd place. I can't see anyone else in SA at the moment apart from Willie making the number15 their own. He is also a player of colour which is a requirement of squad selection.

Basson- Not much difference between him and Mvovo, so could have gone either way.

Basson is the top CurryCup try scorer of all time, and has also finished first in the SuperXV for the most tris scored. Give him oppertunities and he will score. He is also good at Kick and chase which is a major part of the SA game.

de Jongh- Not a good option. However again not many people from other SuperXV teams screaming out for the position. I would have preferred Sadie or Ebershom. Could be a quota selection influencing his selection over Ebershom.

Morne- with Goosen injured the standard of flyhalf play from Sa was terriable this year. 

Morne is the form South African flyhalf- even with all of his limitations.

Lambie was piss poor the whole year and the Sharks backline was best in the 2 games he was not at 10.

Pienaar- A qualty player, but does not take on the opposition around the fringes of rucks. Can also cover pole kicking.

du Preez- I am not sure what his form is like. Perhaps the easy life in Japan and not being overplayed will good for him. He is only 30. Given that he was once the best 9 in the game, perhaps he may prove to be worthwhile. He also knows the Meyer game plan and how to implement it.

STEENKAMP- Fat Bastard. Did get Sa player of the year award in 2010, but got hoplessly overweight in France.

J.Kruger- Solid in the lineouts. I would not have chose him especially as he is going overseas.

Flip, F.v/d Merwe- A good forward w

Alberts- A quality player who brings mongrel to the pack.

Disaster … the man’s a moron.

Clearly Mike saw this coming right from the onset.

I honestly thought that it’s just too damn easy to select a potent Bok squad for Meyer to stuff it up  … but it seems I was wrong …

To be quite honest … I can’t believe how foolish the man is …

I hope the Bokke get thrashed by all and sundry …

It’s time Meyer get’s his walking papers …

"Meyer is clueless.........bring back Jake"!!

Holymolly...never thought I'd hear you say that, Dave....never ever!

 cc mike seeing disasters is what he does. Do you recall all the disasters he called on the Stormers only to see the Stormers go on to win?

The Meyer bashers clearly have not learned anything. Just remember oaks Morne kicking normally last year would have ment one Bok test loss. Boks should be better this year. My advice dont over do the Meyer bashing and have the egg landing all over ragain. Bwahahahahhahahaha

Beeno's kindly advice to Meyer bashers - will it be ignored again

Well Beeno ... Mike was right!!!

Meyer is a complete twit ... clueless in every aspect.

We have talent coming out our ears ... what's so difficult selecting the right players ... ???

Is it ignorance? ... is it utter stupidity? .... something is causing this fooilishness ....

He trusts the Bulls and the Bulls alone.

I wonder if he was one of those idiots that wanted the Afrikaaner homeland???

It would not surprise me at all.

 What a k@k squad, why on earth would you only have one tighthead in your squad. I know that we are a bir short on tight heads but even old Brok Harris can hold up his end of the scrum as to fat plodder Guthrow. Coenie is still young and not the answer at tighthead. Coenie is fantastic in the loose play, why tigh him down at tight head, Tighthead is the last guy to leave the scrum. 

SA's obsession with has beens is really getting to me. Fourie was great in 2007 but since then he has been pretty poor. In 2011 he single handedly knocked SA out of the Quarters. Who is to say he will be making a difference. I don't mind having a few wise heads around but we are 3 championships away from the WC. Blood some youngsters and work on the attacking game.

Agree Saffex, 58% is shocking as a record. The only two games SA are alloud to lose this season is away against NZ and Aus. I expect atleast a 75% win record.

But looking at our players I think that we are missing depth in certain positions. Thinking of players that are not injured

15 - Aplon, Viljoen, Pietersen, Daniller, Kirchner are not test fullbacks. Who else though?

14 - Short on quality wingers, Rhule, Mvovo, Basson, are not the comple wingers and we just lost Van Der Heever thanks to AC. 

10 - To me Goosen is the only decent option, but is injury prone, probably in the same mold as Andre Pretorius.

9 - Serious lack of talent year, Du Preez has had his chance, he should have proven his worth in S15 before being selected. 

4 / 5 - Other than Estebeth and PSDT, I don't see any other quality locks.

3 - Only Jannie is half decent but still not the best, wonder whether BJ botha is still a good tighthead. Malherbe still need some years as I don't think that he is that great, but tight heads are like red wine. 

We are missing some serious world class players at the moment either playing abroad, injured or simply don't exist.

first off gentleman i agree with all the posts 100% the only believer that the jerri hatrick du preez and "who ate all the pies" steenkamp can offer anything good to SA rugby is beeno...but then again if i look at his post something to the regard that meyer somehow disproved all this critics last year with a very sub par 58% winning record is surely smoking some good stuff.....

that being said the selection of players like du preez and steenkamp will once again reinforce the concept for younger players to apply there trade overseas...so the meyer era has allready caused a huge amount of damage without even being in the job for very long. the effects that we will feel for years and years to come. as his shortsighted obsession with winning short term goals will effect us so badly in the long run that the damage will never be repaired. wasting time on players that are not commited to SA rugby and not giving junior players the run they need to develop will make not only the jersey cheap but SA rugby cheap in general. cirumstances is tough but picking players like louw pienaar and steenkamp and co will railroad SA rugby for years to come.

apart from meyers blind selections there was a glimmer of hope with the game pattern that we saw in the mini tournament but as i also said meyer is a creature of habit and if he shows some progression in terms of game pattern if he does lose expect the wheels to come off and him to creep into his shell and play that woefull game pattern that we saw last year....

i am not doom and gloom but the jury is still out on meyer and his selections made it clear that he wants it his way and sa rugby is not going to benefit any time soon. if we play and build on the game pattern of the mini tournament we have a chance but the wallies will be strong with mckenzie at the helm and AB well are always the bar to aim for.

Meyer's will not take this team forward