Have to agree with Mozart, Meyer deserves loyalty, respect and support.
Moz exactly so. Ou maaaikie and snapster in their bias want to insist on draws being equivalent to a loss! They are it appears a bit mathematically challenged. I dont want to overstate this because they can assess what team has the higher score - but there it stops.
They will not take any note of factors like Morne's abysal kicking form, the FACT that a number of players moved on and the injury count and its beinng Meyers FIRST year.
His win ration in his first year was 58% which is not good enough, we were lucky to achieve that given our intercept escape by Frans against the Argies and our scrape throughs against Ireland, Scotland and England at the end of last year.
And wow Meyer has a 100% record this year against the mighty Italy, Scotland and Samoa!!
Meyer and the Boks were crap last year, we were piss poor against Scotland this year and given the squad my guess is we will lose all four to Oz and NZ
lolz, nice number crunching, reminds me of this thread not so long ago,,,
www.sarugby.com/forum.cfm
@mozter,
"Nonsense. Every coach has soft matches. In fact any coach who has led through a RWC has had more than his fair share of soft matches."
what is ur defintion of a soft matches???
Oh come on Moz. I always thought you were one of the more cerebally enhanced forum members but this piece of numerical gymnastics is straight out of the flat earthers handbook. You cannot discard or reinterperet unsavoury results in an effort to bolster Meyers ordinary win/loss record and expect to be taken seriously by anyone other than the fawning Meyer fanboys.
Come on Moz. By resurrecting Hasbeeno's infamous "neutral draws" theory from last year, all you've done is given him an excuse to wax lyrical again about complete crappy statistics!
You of all people should know better than that.
'What Dave and apparently you NZ chappies want me to do is score draws as losses....not good for insight, but still yielding a win ratio of 66.66%"
Thats not true Moz, I don't want you to score wins as loses, i just want you to calculate Meyers WINNING ratio properly by counting the number of matches he has actually WON and dividing that number by the TOTAL number of games he has played. As you have already conceded, Meyer has WON 10 games from 15 attempts giving him a respectable 66% WINNING ratio. Disregarding the 2 draws or "splitting the difference" equally between the wins and losses ledger as a way to artificially inflate this 66% figure is a dishonest endeavour. You cannot expect these conclusions to be taken seriously by the numerically literate.
Seriously Moz and with the greatest of respect, If Meyer is as great a coach as you proclaim, he wouldn't need fanboys to proselytise on his behalf, conjuring up objectionable arithmetic and imaginative qualifiers. His success would be self evident and undeniable in spite of creative reinterpretations by his partisan apologists, not because of them. Besides, its still early days for Meyer. I would expect his current 66% WINNING ratio to steadily rise, especially if SA persevere with regular mid year matches against Scotland, Italy and Samoa.
What is his win ratio against the All Blacks?
Cheers
