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Meyer's team selection

Started by clevermike14 REPLIES207 VIEWS· 18 Jun 2014, 14:53
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
18 Jun 2014, 14:53
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18 Jun 2014, 14:53#1

There are some really strange and not so strange selections in the team as announced for Saturday.


There is no backup flyhalf - should Morne gets injured.   However, that is a remote possibility only.   Morne never takes contact and he is liable to make the least number of tackles imaginable - so a chance of injury is really remote.


Why Meisiekind is on the bench can only be attributed to Meyer's affection for the selection of Bulls and Ex-Bulls players he is familiar with.    


The forecast that I made about the lock selection turned out to be correct.  Matfield and Flippe in the starting line up and De Jager on the bench.   Is this the end of Bakkies Botha's international career?   Based on his performances in the last three tests he played in - hopefully that is the case.   Etzebeth will soon be back and Meyer seems addicted to Matfield - despite his deficient Tight 5 performances.


I also thought that the non-performances outside of scrumming resulted in Steenkamp being put on the bench and Best returning as a starting prop.


I hope Jannie at least maintain his rather questionable scrumming of last week - he was only penalized twice for scrumming infringements.  


For the rest there were no changes made.


By the way - I am rather surprised about th selection of Henricks ahead of Mvovo to start.  Hendricks was rather poor under high balls and that could ebcome a serious problem.   Mvovo is better in that component.  


 

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CeradynePro9,374 posts
18 Jun 2014, 15:06
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18 Jun 2014, 15:06#2
 
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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
18 Jun 2014, 15:12
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18 Jun 2014, 15:12#3
Team sheet
15 Willie le Roux , 14 Cornal Hendricks , 13 JP Pietersen, 12 Jan Serfontein, 11 Bryan Habana, 10 Morné Steyn, 9 Fourie du Preez (vice-captain), 8 Duane Vermeulen, 7 Willem Alberts , 6 Francois Louw , 5 Victor Matfield (captain), 4 Flip van der Merwe , 3 Jannie du Plessis, 2 Bismarck du Plessis (vice-captain), 1 Tendai Mtawarira
Replacements:
16 Schalk Brits, 17 Gurthrö Steenkamp, 18 Coenie Oosthuizen, 19 Lood de Jager, 20 Schalk Burger, 21 Ruan Pienaar 22 Wynand Olivier ,23 Lwazi Mvovo .

Why no chance for Marcell and Jordaan. What a pity wee matfiled wasnt given the boot and Loodt selected!!. 
Mike, Pienaaar is the reserve flyhalf.
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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
18 Jun 2014, 15:15
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18 Jun 2014, 15:15#4

Another pathetically conservative selection by Meyer......Moz will no doubt now find favour in Meyer's selection of Olivier on the bench just because Meyer has made the call.

 

 

Just wait for Meyer's selections when Jean, Fourie and Juan Smith are fit

 

 

No doubt our WC side is shaping up to be:

 

15. Willie 14. JP 13. Fourie 12. Jean 11. Habana 10. Morne 9. du Preez 1. Beast 2. Bismark 3. Jannie 4. Bakkies 5. Matfield 6. Schalk 7. Juan Smith 8. Vermeulen.......what a bloody joke

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
18 Jun 2014, 15:32
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18 Jun 2014, 15:32#5
 Saffex
Mozart will obviously be happy with your Meyer's team selecton for the WC.  It would be the oldest WC team ever as it would include no less 9 members from the glorious 2007 WC squad/team.   He would conveniently forget that the core team was also responsible for the 2010 ad 2011 bullshit performances.  Of the remaining six players 4 were in the 2011 disaster squad/team.
That would be a painful experience to watch how out team get butchered because of the old age addiction.
However, I have a feeling Bakkies is on his way out.   I think that anybody will b better than Alberts as a loosie - so Smith will represent a slight improvement.  Of the rest  I think that Meyer would ultimately forget about some players as they will prove not to be good enough.   Fourie, and Schalk (with his injury problems) may be two of those.  I think that Meyer would never give up on Matfield and Morne - even if they are piss poor in the RC - Blue Bulls Blood is thicker than water.
By the time of the RC Jannie would have done enough damage to be sent packing.There are still some time to make changes - but the time is running short.  

             
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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
18 Jun 2014, 15:39
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18 Jun 2014, 15:39#6

Nope Bakkies is not on the way out, Meyer is a huge fan and his injury will have kept him on the side lines this week......we will see old man Bakkies back for the Scotland or RC games.

 

 

Meyer will not forget about some players for he is too fucking stupid to comprehend the basics.......the guy is the most pathetically conservative coach I have ever come across......I would prefer any of the previous coaches over this clown and I mean any

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CleanCutPro9,905 posts
18 Jun 2014, 15:39
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18 Jun 2014, 15:39#7
 
I hope so.

Bakkies must have torn something when he dashed for the try line.

Those damn old hammies ...


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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
18 Jun 2014, 15:50
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18 Jun 2014, 15:50#8
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Hopefully Meyer realized that Bakkies Botha's performances do not match his reputation - but since he used to be coached by Meyer - that is unlikely to happen.   This bloody Blue Bulls fascination is going to cost us dearly in times to come.  
Saffex 
PDV too?  I  think he would at least not be as addicted to Blue Bulls and Ex-Blue Bulls players like Meyer is.     
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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
18 Jun 2014, 15:51
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18 Jun 2014, 15:51#9
Yes, I would rather have PDV than Meyer and I am not bullshitting......PDV was poor but he never made as many pathetic selections as Meyer has this year  
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bluebokPro3,977 posts
18 Jun 2014, 16:04
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18 Jun 2014, 16:04#10
PDV never made any selections at all! White's left over senior players did that for him. I am sorry Saff, I get that Meyer's team has been dug up from the distant past and that pisses me off too, but PDV was a complete clown! Meyer is uber conservative, but his getting results. His vision ends 2cm in front of his nose, but he is getting results.  
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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
18 Jun 2014, 16:12
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18 Jun 2014, 16:12#11

All this bullshit that PDV did not do this that and the other is simply not true, go read John Smits auto.......PDV was a clown but his selections were better than Meyer's current pathetic attempts.

 

Give me PDV anyday...........Meyer is a conservative fool stuck in a time warp dating back a good 10 years.......his current side would have been good 8 years ago  

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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
18 Jun 2014, 16:27
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18 Jun 2014, 16:27#12
 BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA now I have heard everything. ou snaspter prefers pdv to Meyer!!! Sidesplitting stuff from the oak!!
snaspter your cred is suffering. Best cool down, take a deep breath, count to ten, sw itch off the computer and come back tomorrow and say sorry okes I made a complele twit of myself again!  I cant help it!! 
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CeradynePro9,374 posts
18 Jun 2014, 16:41
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18 Jun 2014, 16:41#13
 PDV was the one who first selected Morne Steyn........ He also got John Smit to get out of his contact with Clermont Auvergne and brought him back, etc. The moment that Matfield got out of his contract with Toulon, PDV had him back in the Bok team  as well.
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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
18 Jun 2014, 16:44
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18 Jun 2014, 16:44#14
PDV was shit, that about sums up where I think Meyer fits in right now  
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
18 Jun 2014, 18:32
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18 Jun 2014, 18:32#15
Saffex
As long as you are or were a member of the Blue Bulls squad - preferably previously coached by Meyer - you are home and dry when it comes to teams election.   He thrives on pally-pally selections with no regard to actual performances.  
That is why he selects players like Morne Steyn and Gurthru Steenkamp - not acceptable by their clubs as starting team members.  Then also there is of course his real close pals - Matfield and Botha.   
There is no merit in Meyer's selections - he sticks with the players who according to him performed well in 2012 = irrespective f how they performs at present.   
That makes him a backward looking coach - with no regard for the way forward.   Bluebok is right about the following quotation:-
"Meyer is uber conservative, but his getting results. His vision ends 2cm in front of his nose ..."  


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