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Meyer to keep Bok young guns on ice?

Started by Beeno14 REPLIES164 VIEWS· 14 Nov 2013, 10:04
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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
14 Nov 2013, 10:04
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14 Nov 2013, 10:04#1

Ex Supersport

Springbok coach Heyneke Meyer appears unlikely to blood any new caps in the run-on XV against Scotland.

SARugbymag’s Jon Cardinelli, on tour with the Springboks, reports that Meyer entrusted all the veterans in the run-on XV at training.

This is the side that trained.

15 Willie le Roux, 14 JP Pietersen, 13 Jaque Fourie, 12 Jean de Villiers (c), 11 Bryan Habana, 10 Pat Lambie, 9 Fourie du Preez, 8 Duane Vermeulen, 7 Siya Kolisi, 6 Francois Louw, 5 Flip van der Merwe, 4 Bakkies Botha, 3 Frans Malherbe, 2 Adriaan Strauss, 1 Gurthrö Steenkamp.

The backline is the same one that finished the Test against Wales. Among the forwards, Bakkies Botha replaces Eben Etzebeth, Siya Kolisi takes over from Willem Alberts and in the front row Adriaan Strauss and Gurthro Steenkamp move from the subs bench to the starting XV.

What do you think?

My view is why take the likes of Johan Goosen on tour when he could have been having a proper rest and a full pre-season conditioning programme. Why take Scarra Ntubeni? Why take Louis Schreuder?

And if Pieter-Stef du Toit can start the Currie Cup final and be the man of the match he surely can start a Test against Scotland. Ditto the game time afforded Jan Serfontein.

Why play Jean de Villiers against Scotland?

Perhaps we had best not speculate too much till the team is announced. Snapster blood pressure will hit the roof.

Would never play Schreuder or Ntubeni or Kolisi. That much should be clear.

Jan was still under twenty this year as was Goosen so one understands the concern. Du Toit might have got a start.

I would have thought going on tour and getting to know the culture and learning the ropes would be a big plus even if a youngster didnt play. Also gives the coach a time to work with the youngster and then you have mentors like the great Bakkies.

Scotland have made six changes to the side that beat Japan 42-17.

Scotland – 15 Sean Maitland, 14 Tommy Seymour, 13 Nick De Luca, 12 Duncan Taylor, 11 Sean Lamont, 10 Ruaridh Jackson, 9 Greig Laidlaw (c), 8 David Denton, 7 John Barclay, 6 Alasdair Strokosch, 5 Jim Hamilton, 4 Richie Gray, 3 Moray Low, 2 Ross Ford, 1 Alasdair Dickinson.
Subs: 16 Scott Lawson, 17 Ryan Grant, 18 Geoff Cross, 19 Jonny Gray, 20 John Beattie, 21 Chris Cusiter, 22 Duncan Weir, 23 Max Evans.


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CleanCutPro9,905 posts
14 Nov 2013, 10:30
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14 Nov 2013, 10:30#2
 
Contradictory media info coming through, Beeno.

I've been reading all week how Meyer intends to mix the starting 15 up for the Scots.

Giving the likes of PSDT, Lambie, Willie, Kolisi, Coetzee, Bakkies, Gurthro, Strauss and possibly even Serfontein a starting spot this weekend.

We're talking wholesale changes here from what I can tell.

Sounds a little extreme ... guess we'll know his thoughts soon enough.



 
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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
14 Nov 2013, 10:39
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14 Nov 2013, 10:39#3
 CC you maybe right but if these were the guys training as the starting team the guy might be right.
If you look at the way the bulls were built up by Meyer it is very clear he knows how to bring along youngsters. He has patience and knows how to ease them in and how to do this.I dont think some oaks realise the body is not ready for the rigours of test rugby when you are under 20.
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CleanCutPro9,905 posts
14 Nov 2013, 11:32
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14 Nov 2013, 11:32#4
 
Yeah ... must agree. Meyer knows what he's doing.

We've only lost once this year ... against the All Blacks. The other doesn't count as we were blatantly robbed.

Look very much forward to this weekend's test matches.

Are you per chance involved in another tennis "tournament" this weekend?
 
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
14 Nov 2013, 14:37
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14 Nov 2013, 14:37#5

Meyer is like a jo-jo - sometime good and sometimes poor.   Wen he is poor - he is very poor.   Last year Steenkamp flopped against the Scottish opposition - barely three weeks ago, he flopped for his club - and last week he came on and the first scrum ended in a penalty against the Springboks.  

 

What is wrong with Meyer - must his lack of common sense in some cases be so questionable that it becomes farcical?

 

Howevr, I differ from Beeno here - he probably took Goosen along to have a more direct impact in his physical development programme.   Remember that after this series - Meyer would be rather removed from direct contact of Goosen in Super 15 next year.  Again some logic on the part of Meyer.   But why the jo-joing  in other cases?

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