Modern rugby

Modern rugby….except for NZ, France and Oz who are still winning through back play.

Nonsense ... that is just another excuse to justify your absurd love of the useless.

Two of our local experts at it again - better known for writing shit on site.   

Dont forget Ireland....the way they beat the AB at there own game, running with the ball....hell even the Poms run with the ball more than the Boks....it might look like that because the Boks always drags any team into a Forward oriented game...but the secret is ones you front our pack, nullify that danger to a extend,  our backline especially DDA leaves holes a plenty for opposition to run thru.....Denial is a ugly thing.

Not sure how true that is. Will need to look at total amount of phases / breakdowns and set phases. Teams to run out of ideas after a few phases and the fact that defences are so strong these days. 

But just look at how the Stormers are scoring. Happy to spread the ball wide and play in the outside channels. 

Boks never got to the outside channels.

But when we did, we scored a try in the 80th minute. 

There is space out wide, just to much emphasis on kicking and crashing.

Just like Willie kept kicking the ball away and got pointed out.

Damian Dud can no longer pass beyond 1 meter 

Bilbo showing how clueless he is again. Modern rugby is structured more differently thanthe Blocks... but the Blocks dont' have dynamic enough forwards or backs to play that way... so it's pods and pods and pods and kicks, and crash ball to pods, to pods, to frantically wide ball that's lost or run back inside to pods, pods, to crash ball, to pods, to crash ball to kick. Modern rugby is structured around the forwards in layers you moron! Control the width of the field, and use the forwards in pods as well, but in pods that link wth the backs and can play between each other. New Zealand would NEVER have locks like the Blocks because they cannot work in those kinds of structures. Too slow, low workrate and poor skills. The modern pods come in different shapes and they vary their width. The blocks stick close together, because they want to control the ball and make a quick clean and reset for the next dumpy fag carry. New Zealand can vary a 4 man pod so it covers the entire width of the middle of thefield. It's very fluid. {unch runners are important, but they need to be incisive you can't just fuckking tractor a 0.000001 miles per century. Kerevi bursts through the line, and breaks it and gets behind it. When he beats a man, the man is out of the way and he keeps moving. He can offload as well and even if he doesn't he gets so much ground that ht defense is tracking back big chunks of ground and by the time they get their the ball is already out and the point of contact has changed, so they are fucked. THis is stressing the defence and manipulating it and sustaining pressure past the point of entry. Do I have to fucking draw you a diagram you saggy sack of shit??? De lindy does none of that stuff now does he? No fucking block does. So I command you to stop talking shit. 

Well one would assume Eddie has figures we don't. But even so, just in the last two weeks of RC, the Boks made the least passes of any of the four sides. 150ish vs 250ish for both NZ and Arg. Aus 194. To say that all sides play basically the same style is ridiculous.

It is a stat game by game or an aggregated sort of things.

Because with SA rugby at work, an aggregated figure would show all the zeros provided by SA rugby.

All stats are only relevant when put in connection with the games they come from.

All actions in a rugby game does not have the weight. Mondane actions, essential actions etc

The stat reflects nothing of a difference between a team that would spill the ball directly to the backline to kick the ball away (it could take easily 2 or more passes) and a team that would focus their passing close to the front line and make gain through the displacement of the ball.

Of course, all this stuff is well known and this is another attempt to offuscate the situation of SA rugby.

Anyone watching a game by SA rugby and a game by other teams could notice at first sight heavy differences.

Differences that no stats can cover.

I would not go that far...that is ludicrous.....because there is obvious proof that we can Run very accurately with ball in hand WC Final 19 is one proof,  we ran you ragged.....big problem is R&N has totally abandoned that part of our game since Swys left...they obviously need help in that department....

It makes no sense. A rugby game is structured in different ways. Time spent to attack, time spent to defend.

By itself, the 70/30 spilt means nothing.

Pushing stats with no attached games means nothing. Statistical analysis is misleading without the situation it is supposed to represent.

Anyone watching a SA rugby game and a game from other teams notices major differences in the way the ball is passed around.

Stats that would paint SA rugby as no different as other teams are a study case for misuse of stats, not an element proving that SA rugby are able to play rugby.

Once again, it is known already. But well, it belongs to the same department as the so called quota policy that demands suspension of disbelief and denial of basic intelligence.

because there is obvious proof that we can Run very accurately with ball in hand WC Final 19 is one proof,  we ran you ragged.

EN lost the final when players were tasked to play more than they should have during the semi final against NZ.

They joined the final being flappy and the coach failed to refresh the line up.

The ball was run when EN players were exhausted.

SA rugby remain a danger for diminished sides. Players can not run the ball when facing fresh sides. They simply do not have the skills for it and must reduce their on the field task list in order to pretend.

mpower you are fucking dreaming... ran us ragged Bilbo's hairy arse! tendai scrummed well and we lost sinckler very early that discrupted us and we didnt't take our two early shots for tries. That is the entire game... the rest is horsehsit from you and I can reference some total cock up blunders you tits made running. Lots of very good luck in two tries. Typical yarpie arrogance. The blocks have never played good attacking rugby since Mallett and that's a fucking fact. The last great Block coach of all times. 

Bilbo you saggy crack flap... the stats have n't changed for years now. You have until four PHASES to make a break and if you don't the defence USUALLY  resets and gains strength and that leads to static phases and resetting field position to reload for a attack. That could mean shit like coming around the corner for how many phases in one direction with the forwards to the touchline and having the backs with their supporting forwards free for the attack. But more phases means more risk of penalties or losing the ball or some other shitty error. The easy option is to kick and the genius erasmus knows this shit so he kicks slow ball and doesn't put the Blocksin positions where they need to sustain pressure with the ball in hand. It's pretty fucking unique in world rugby. It totally avoids the shitty abiilityes of the Blocks so they can be a bit more competitive... taking the opposition away from the real fight in open play and wearing them down. 

Thank me Bilbo... I SHOULD charge you for these pearls of wisdom. I'm just doing my part for society by educating the helpless natives... a tradition it seems...

Just remember Rosie and Trad, Denial goes both ways 

Yeah two ways, from your ass and to your mouth. Stop doing this.

You are so fucking repetitive... and flaccid. You got nothing Bilbo. Just had your ass served you b!tch. 

Got a thing about attention seeking don't you??? What is that all about? I've read about you boasting about your house and your job, and some supposed shitty connections in the game, the school you went to and who you supposedly played rguby with. You don't know fuck all about me. BUT... this is a bit of a fight for attention and supremacy hey? Well I clearly don't give a shit about attention now do I? I DO enjoy putting stupid cunts in their place. You TRY to throw your weight around (that's some mass boy'o) but your just a whiny little bitch who runs away when you are confronted with someone who knows better than you do. Yeah, the REAL attention seekngn twat is you. Even got your own haggard mug on your avatar. What a loser. Got your ass served here and you got no rebuttal you weak fag. Don't like to be taken on... just like a yes man to boost your ego. Pathetic. Talking indirectly like a gossipy bitchy woman... must be a new low... even by your god awful standards. 

If you guys want some good facts to shine a light on your discussion this article is for you

Facts on RC team performance

Seems like there are a few myths about Boks and ABs, one for example is that NZ in general don't like mauls from line outs. In fact the ABs have incorporated this into their game and are pretty much on par with the Boks:

1. South Africa 6
2. New Zealand 5
3. Argentina 1
4. Australia 0

Not many pundits bemoaning mauls would have that number right: the open attack of the All Blacks only one ‘boring’ maul try behind the Springboks?

new Zealand have used mauls as a weapon and phase ball starter for decades. Nothing new there. You can't learn much about the stats JW. these stats are shit for telling you much. 

Watched games with this stat in mind. It is worthless, certainly an aggregate that loses the characteristics of a game.