Mooi Manie

For of Manie. 

May he never play for the boks again. What an easy kick. 

He doesn't have what it takes. There is Jaden Hendrikse sinking a 60 m kick in the curry cup final and here comes Manie with his fancy play and can't do the basics 

But but but the no look kick against Scotland!

He should have started with Pollard to close out. But as I said earlier in the week, if he can't make those kicks, he has no future as a test flyhalf. Close the chapter, cast the net wider. When it comes down to it he's a small guy who will have trouble defending his channel if they run big blokes at him like we saw against France, and he doesn't have the boot to win you tight games.

Just a question how amny balls that went to Libbok he kicked away aimlessly - basically handover of possession,.   He did a Morne on us too - missed a corner penalty kick badly.    When Libbok placed to kick that last penalty miss - Erasmus got up and walked away - not wanting to see what was coming.   

I have a feeling that we will not see Libbok again in the Springbok squad,   Too major mistakes and 6 minor ones are just 8 too many.

I think Libbok will be next on the shit list same as Esterhuizen and Faf already are.

Libbok certainly had an impact, just not a good one. It wasn't as if Pollard was in great form either, but Libok nullified even that.

There are repetitive cases by Pollard that is not acceptable and that is he is making bad mistakes when covering kicks by opposng tems and when he does he is slow in geting to the ball and what he came up with is often derimental to the team.   

He seems to be slow and clumsy as to what happened in such cases.   It happened in the final in 2019 when he was penalized and the English kicker mssed h kick at goal - it happend a few times subsequently and it happened again yesterday before he was replaced.

For me that indicate that even when he in 2019 in top form  - it is an indication that his game is going backwards and not forward.    His goalkicking  is normally very god - th rest o his game is not on a level it used to be.    

Without Shaca we hav a persiten problm with back-up flyhalfss I am afraid.     .                  

Kinda funny how Manie is being singled out when there  are other players who are equally guilty I mean is he alone responsible for losing the game........eg how bad were Marx's lineout throws and for how long has it been awful? But then going all the way to Rassie for appointing Moerat as captain? A really poor choice, the team was rudderless under his captaincy. As for the team, they didn't look like world champions and who's to say that it's Browns fault and not the players?

Denny

I gave a list of rankings and  Mnaie ad sme serious companions who failed as well.  

Erasmus was playing a lot of players in the  tournamnt and oftn played differen players in various positios in the series,

What went ong was the leading player in the backline  (De Allende) and forwards (Du Toit)  were  missing and the rest bascally have off days in the office,    The other problem was that the players thougt SA has already won the RC tournament  and they just did  not give the maximum efforts needed. to win the match,   

Mert is by a dstance not good enough to be in th team - but appointing him as captain was just about the wrst decision ever by Erasmus.    I think Libbok and Moerat will be next on the shit list - same as Esterhuizen and Faf already are.

   .           

Mpower

I differ from you in a way from your ideas on the isue of Libbok.    Part of the problem is that when under prssure in all codes of sport is that  pressure they collapse mentally and that is folowed by physical collapse.   If the Sringboks was aheadd at thats atge of the game - the kick is likely to be converted - but being a point behind the pressure sent Libbok into panic mode and mental and subsequent physical malfunctioning is inevitable,     

 The difference is some sportsmen can handle such situations - others can't          

I think Rassie might be looking for another black guy to take over the captaincy from Kolisi.

Politically it takes a lot of heat off the Boks and gets them a lot of support in South Africa.

So far Moerat does not look the part.

Moerat is 6 ft 6 and 116 kg. 

De Viliers who have close contact wirh  Erasmus is probably right,  Shaca will take over the captaincy sooner rather than later,   Shaca was captain of the Under 20 team and that would count heavily in his favor.    Another player could be Willemse.   

I d not tink that Moerat was really a serious candidate for him to show leaderhip and he failed bad;y./   In Moerat's case it was an experiment that failed badly.   ,