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More Dirty Kiwi Play Exposed

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AugenöffnerPro6,974 posts
14 Aug 2019, 02:07
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14 Aug 2019, 02:07#1

World rugby has erupted with fury over Scott Barrett’s red card on Saturday in Bledisloe I.

Eddie Jones called the inconsistency “ridiculous”; Michael Cheika said he was “disappointed” by the card while Steve Hansen labelled his side’s discipline as “dumb”.

But were the All Blacks fortunate to escape with just the single red card handed out?

In the aftermath of the Wallabies’ record breaking 47-26 victory over the All Blacks, where the home side won the penalty count 8-4 too, New Zealand’s media have attempted to manipulate Bledisloe II.

They’ve attempted to paint a picture to South African referee Jaco Peyper that the Wallabies are getting away with murder, particularly at the ruck.

New Zealand’s Herald wrote an article on Monday highlighting the Wallabies’ “dangerous” tactic that they got away with, pointing to “14 neck rolls” that the home side got away with.



Sam Cane, himself no angel — as will be pointed out later — told New Zealand’s media that he had been surprised by the Wallabies’ ability to shift the All Blacks off the ball.

“To be honest, I wasn’t aware of it until I looked at my game yesterday but there were times when you’d get over the ball and you’d know you were in a good position and then for whatever reason you get taken off it,” Cane said on Monday.

“Sometimes it was because players were coming blatantly in from the side, sometimes it’s those neck rolls. I’m not sure there’s much you can do in the game.

“I remember at the 2015 World Cup there was a real clampdown on it. It was taken very seriously. It’s just one of those things; the laws of the game. They focus on one area and then another area seems to slip off. But I’d like to see it ruled.”

But in doing so, they also failed to address the All Blacks’ own acts of foul play and rubbed their own hands clean.

Fox Sports has discovered 17 different instances of foul play from the All Blacks.

Yet only three of those acts of foul play were penalised.

In particular, the All Blacks were lucky not to have Dane Coles, Owen Franks and Ardie Savea shown at least a yellow card in the eighth minute for a high, no arms tackle on Michael Hooper.


Although the shot on Hooper drew a penalty from French referee Jerome Garces, the trio could have been shown cards.

As can be seen in the gif above, hooker Dane Coles fails to use his arms and hits Hooper square in the right cheek with his right shoulder.

His front-row teammate Franks uses a swinging left-arm which hits Hooper flush in the middle of the face, as does Savea who hits him earlier.

At the time Hooper is not falling into contact.

The contact is dangerous and reckless.

Later, in the 35th minute, Cane, who previously complained of side entry and questioned how the All Blacks were being shifted off the ball flips hooker Tolu Latu on his head.



Following the Hooper tackle on Ngani Laumape, Latu gets first to the ball and Cane, rushing in from the side, drives the hooker onto his head and neck. The tackle is called a ‘tombstone’ for a reason.

Even before Barrett’s red card in the 40th minute, just a couple of phases later the lock forward failed to use arms in a clearance and led with his right shoulder.

One phase later, Franks, who came under scrutiny for a neck roll on David Pocock last year, once again tackles Izack Rodda around the neck.

Shortly after half time, Richie Mo’unga hit Lukhan Salakaia-Loto around the side of the head as the blindside flanker dived to the ground to score in the 46th minute.

Replacement prop Angus Ta’avao was seen twice tackling the Wallabies around the neck in the 57th and 69th minutes, while he also charged into a ruck and failed to use arms in the tackle in the 68th minute.


Ardie Savea earlier tackled Tolu Latu around the neck in the third minute.

There were multiple incidents of Wallabies being checked and tackled off the ball, too.

Kieran Read wrapped his arms around Hooper as the duo scrambled to get to the ball first in the lead up to Anton Lienert-Brown’s try, Kurtley Beale was checked off the ball in the 16th minute by Scott Barrett while his brother Beauden also wraps his arms around Samu Kerevi five metres off the ball in the 20th minute.

Another swinging arm from Scott Barrett in the 25th minute on Allan Alaalatoa was missed too.


The Wallabies weren’t saints in Bledisloe I either.

As has been highlighted, neck rolls were missed by officials from Wallabies.

So to a late shot from Beale on Jack Goodhue — albeit the All Blacks scored from the kick.

And what was Beale supposed to do?

Be flattened like Mufasa in the Lion King?

A tackle would have brought about a penalty, and by the time Goodhue had kicked Beale was in position to make the tackle and instead slightly turned his shoulder for self defence more than aggression.

It must be said, too, that Beale was at the time a standing target unlike Barrett who was a moving tackler when he forcefully hit Hooper in the head with his shoulder.

Two can play this game.

But the All Blacks — fresh from their worst ever Rugby Championship — are clutching at straws if they think they’re getting unfairly targeted.

FoxSport.com.au
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PakieCaptain17,321 posts
14 Aug 2019, 09:16
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14 Aug 2019, 09:16#2

That triple-hit on Hooper is nasty. Everyone going straight for the head.

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
14 Aug 2019, 13:07
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14 Aug 2019, 13:07#3

Pakie 

Agree with you in that case = but am not sure when it happened.   if it was after the Barrett red the ref may not have wanted to card another player - if before the Barrett red the Ref may have lost patience with the dirty play earlier and gave a card to cut down the way the AB's went about the game.

Peyper is sometimes at fault in missing things - but a repeat of that type of play would be harshly punished by him.   So the AB' s should be careful what they do in games.     .  

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PakieCaptain17,321 posts
14 Aug 2019, 13:14
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14 Aug 2019, 13:14#4

It was before the red, as they say "later, in the 35th minute" to introduce the next incident. The red was in the 40th minute.

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
14 Aug 2019, 13:26
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14 Aug 2019, 13:26#5

Then the ref got irked and in the next incident of dangerous play took out the red - while most expected a yellow.   Anyway the red was fully justified - Barrett copped a three week ban    

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AugenöffnerPro6,974 posts
14 Aug 2019, 13:30
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14 Aug 2019, 13:30#6

We've seen refs become timid after a stern ref performance. Recall the Italy test of nine years ago or so, the All Blacks were heavily penalised, but the ref had to make a public apology for his supposed poor showing. We'll see how much the game has changed, how much power the Kiwis still possess. I predict Australia will be the more penalised team. This is how it usually works. The Kiwis bemoan injustice and the refs ease up on them. 

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
14 Aug 2019, 13:49
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14 Aug 2019, 13:49#7

Not sure Peyper will like to fall into that mess,  he is likely to deal objectively with issues.   He would not like to fall down the barrel like Joubert did.   Too dangerous for referees and harmful to t heir careers.  

  

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AugenöffnerPro6,974 posts
14 Aug 2019, 13:57
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14 Aug 2019, 13:57#8

Unbeknownst to the average fan, the world of reffing is a dark and murky place. A place for match fixing, threats and even deaths. If the stakes are high enough, if the threats are serious enough, a ref will do what he has to do. 

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redsmanPro1,710 posts
14 Aug 2019, 23:44
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14 Aug 2019, 23:44#9

That 3man cheap shot on hooper was in the first 5 or so minutes. Clear from then the ABs had a plan to cheapshot hooper.

Kiwis are notorious whingers there are so many living in australia we put up with them every day. I just laugh and say suck it for losing and getting flogged by record margin.

PEyper is a proven kiwi stooge much like joubert - I think he is a biased cheat and think that kiwis will win off the back of all their whinging this week and his control of the game.

I have no doubt refs are manipulated by money / threats or other - the few refs that seem to call the kiwis out for objective reffing always seem to get lambasted the most.

Good post Aug - shows the fact the game was reffed fairly and that kiwis are loosing their grip... hahaha  


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moolaaPro2,380 posts
15 Aug 2019, 21:45
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15 Aug 2019, 21:45#10
“Loosing” Pedsman? Looks like you “loosed” your grip on the English language some time ago..... We’ll see who “looses” tomorrow night you uneducated cretin.....
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redsmanPro1,710 posts
15 Aug 2019, 23:16
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15 Aug 2019, 23:16#11

cretan that would be in u are referring to the original etymology of the word. relating to ones from Crete.. you clearly are a moron with autistic traits.

typing on a tablet does effect ones ability to type btw.

uneducated i am not as if u know anything about rugby in australia the uneducated do not watch it.

moola definitely salty about the massive loss.... now that is hilarious!!!!!!

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moolaaPro2,380 posts
16 Aug 2019, 00:45
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16 Aug 2019, 00:45#12
Shit Pedsman, I was wondering who the educated person was but realised when “effect” was used instead of “affect”, it was only you again! Also, I think you’ll find “cretin” is in all recognised dictionaries, so bad luck on your pathetic attempt to best me. Who’s the moron now? I suppose you do have a reasonable excuse though. After all, I presume they didn’t have grammar lessons on those prison ships from the UK and if they did, they sadly left out the bit about using capital letters....
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sharkbokCaptain23,250 posts
16 Aug 2019, 01:13
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16 Aug 2019, 01:13#13
The triple hit on Hooper reminds me of the Brian Driscoll tackle, where he was gang tackled. However, for the most part, it was legal. There is no law that a player cant is tackled by 3 players at the same time. Only Ardie Savea was marginally high, and he seemed to slip upwards. Given the other players had made the tackle, there was minimal space to make the third hit. 


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sharkbokCaptain23,250 posts
16 Aug 2019, 01:15
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16 Aug 2019, 01:15#14



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AugenöffnerPro6,974 posts
16 Aug 2019, 03:16
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16 Aug 2019, 03:16#15

Man, that's one of my favourite movie quotes! 


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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
16 Aug 2019, 05:09
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16 Aug 2019, 05:09#16
Heartless Rooskies!
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redsmanPro1,710 posts
16 Aug 2019, 06:33
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16 Aug 2019, 06:33#17

To spell it out for you moolaa as you clearly are a little slow (like many of your kiwi brethren)...

The salt must be pretty salty after the record breaking obliteration last weekend.

hahaha... so funny.... 

I have no convict ancestry and would go as far to say that the bulk of the convict ancestors play and watch rugby league exclusively. Rugby (as you may or not know) in Australia is not a game for the masses unlike NZ.

I for one are of similar mind with comments relating to the horse tooth PM of NZ by none other than bledisloe cup, eden park winning coach Alan Jones... incidentally was also an english teacher and 1XV coach at my high school in the 80s... bit of intel for you.

Anyway all the best on the weekend - I hope for a fair game (ie not ruined by ref) and may australia bring back the bledisloe.   

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redsmanPro1,710 posts
17 Aug 2019, 07:24
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17 Aug 2019, 07:24#18

haha the salt mines of nuw zulund...hahaha too funny.

everything goign for kiwis tonght they got the ref the ground and the crowd. even injury to my man rory... 

if kiwis dotn win will be major major travesty for nz... i feel sorry for the wives who dont cook eggs... seriously...

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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
17 Aug 2019, 11:39
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17 Aug 2019, 11:39#19

Thankfully the wee abs won so no mass suicides and wife beatings, kicking the dog and endless whinging by the hapless kbbs. 

 Hahahahahahaha. Anyhow I have to congratulate myself on offering the crushed kiwis some comfort and hope last week. Very noble and generous action by Beeno. Even advised about getting their selection wrong. 

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moolaaPro2,380 posts
17 Aug 2019, 11:58
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17 Aug 2019, 11:58#20
I know you don’t really mean that Hasbeeno. I think the convicts’ wives will be frantically searching for egg recipes tonight; especially Pedsman’s hubbie....
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