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More Springboks playing abroad than in SA

Started by Beeno14 REPLIES797 VIEWS· 21 Apr 2014, 16:22
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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
21 Apr 2014, 16:22
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21 Apr 2014, 16:22#1

nevermind all the others!!


ExSport 24


Cape Town - When the next four Springboks who are due to head overseas to earn their keep in Euro and Yen depart, it will be the first time since the inception of professional rugby that more Springboks will be playing rugby overseas than in South Africa, Rapport reported on Sunday.

The departure of Gio Aplon, Keegan Daniel, Jean Deysel and Charl McLeod will bring the total number of Springboks playing overseas to 49.

There are currently 57 players in this year's Vodacom Super Rugby and Vodacom Cup groups who are current or former Springboks.

But this will drop to 48 after this year's Super Rugby when players like JP Pietersen, Heinrich Brussow, Peter Grant, Ryan Kanowski and Dewald Potgieter return to Japan.

This brings the scorecard to: Overseas Springboks 49; home 48.

Jurie Roux, SA Rugby Union executive head, said overseas markets have been offering attractive pay with low tax to top players in the southern hemisphere since 1996.


The question is how sustainable are we if rand continues to weaken?


I seem to recall there were over 300 players overseas playing professionally?

MD
Monkey D LuffyPro6,277 posts
21 Apr 2014, 17:55
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21 Apr 2014, 17:55#2
while saying theyre springboks is technically correct, its about about as loose a comment as u can make.

the real question is how many of those players would be picked for the Boks in a crucial test tomorrow???

off the top of my head i could name 20+ former All Black players playing overseas, and i know that number would increase if it was looked into.

weakened rand plays a part with the exodus, but if SARU wants to stop the tidal wave of top players going overseas, then they should only select Bok players based in SA.
of course theyre not going to though, especially if SA's best from around the world can only get them easting the successful scraps from the table of the NZ rugby empire.

personally i dont think the Bok selectors need to go overseas, they have class to burn everywhere within SA.

Boks
1 beast, 2 bizzy, 3 connie oosthuizen

4 lood de jager, 5 lady elizabeth

6 marcel coetzee, 8 duane vermeulen, 7 jacques du plesiss

9 francois hougaard, 10 jacques potgeiter

12 jan serfontein, 13 jj englebrechett

11 willie le roux, 15 lawazi mvovo, 14 damien de allende

16 adriann strausss, 17 dean greyling, 18 jannie du plesiss, 19 stephanie du toit, 20 arno botha, 21 piet van zyl, 22 patrick lambie, 23 JDV

emerging Boks
1 steven kitshoff, 2 deon fourie, 3 frans malherbe

4 paul wilemese, 5 viktor matfield

6 siya  kolisi, 8 philip van der walt, 7 wilhelm alberts

9 cobius reinach, 10 johaan goosen

12 francois venter, 13 joahn sadie

11 paul jordaan, 15 sp marias, 14 cornell hendricks

16 tian liebenberg, 17 trveor nyakane, 18 wrener kruger, 19 francois uys, 20 lappies labuschange, 21 faf de klerk, 22 elton janties, 23 jaco taute

granted some players are out for the season due to injury, but the question has to be asked, WTF are SARU selecting players from overseas??? o_O
i just made two teams from great players or players in great form, and not one is playing overseas now or in the future, at least not as far as i know.

IMO theres only two players playing abroad who would add value to the Boks and thats habana and strander, and even the loss of both those players are minimal and can be replaced by a number of classy players.
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ShezzaPro2,471 posts
21 Apr 2014, 19:15
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21 Apr 2014, 19:15#3
 Sasuke you're underestimating just how weak the rand is. Someone who travels back and for from the UK and SA, I have a clearer picture than most what SA'n rugby players face. 
Habana is irreplaceable, we don't have any other backline player that matches him. Le Roux maybe, but why would we give up such a player in Habana. Kind of like Lomu when he played in Wales, if his health problems had been overcome then I really don't see the All Blacks not picking him.
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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
21 Apr 2014, 19:18
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21 Apr 2014, 19:18#4

I think Victor might be flatterred to be called an emerging Bok....all that raw fish has addled your brain Sushi.

MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
21 Apr 2014, 19:39
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21 Apr 2014, 19:39#5

Shezza let me help:

 

 

The Rand has been lower to the Dollar in the recent past ie around 2004. And right now it's stronger than it was in December. It will get stronger again when China strengthens. The issue is not just the Rand....it's salary levels. Supply and demand for labour in the captive South African market is such that low salaries are forthcoming. Sure they looked better in world terms when the Rand traded at 6 ....but it should never have been that strong, given unemployment and strong inflation. The Rand was part of the emerging currency bubble.

 

The simple fact is the demand curve for skilled labour in Europe lies well above the demand curve in South africa. Smart economic units will attach to stronger demand curves.

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