FIXTURESNo upcoming fixtures — check back soon.
FORUM / RUGBY /  Morne Steyn at Stade Francais- is he as expensive flop?

Morne Steyn at Stade Francais- is he as expensive flop?

Started by clevermike3 REPLIES544 VIEWS· 31 Dec 2013, 15:00
SHAREXFACEBOOKWHATSAPPTELEGRAMREDDITLINKEDIN
CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
31 Dec 2013, 15:00
#1
31 Dec 2013, 15:00#1

The following article on the issue is pertinent:-


"Stade Français manager Gonzalo Quesada has admitted that Mornè Steyn has not been at his best for the club but insists he is not worried about the South African's form.

The Springbok fly-half has played just five games for the Parisian club and has only started just twice since his move from the Bulls as international commitments have meant that he missed the start of the Top 14 season.

Steyn kicked three penalties and converted countryman Meyer Bosman's try in Friday's  21-6 win over Grenoble but uncharacteristically made a number of errors. 


 "Steyn had a tough match. He had some timing problems," said Quesada after the Friday's victory at Stade Jean Bouin.

Quesada believes that the 29-year-old needs time to adapt to his new set up and team-mates   "He has not had a lot of time with us as the team begins to get to know each other really well. "

"But it's a stage we have to go through, I 'm not worried even if he did not play at his best and he made mistakes that we have rarely seen from him at home. " 


The above  raises two questions, namely-


*  is he a flop at Stade Francais, and if so


*  is he  asexoensive a flop as Earl Silky Hands Jantjies was for the Stormers?


Now lets look at the actual Morne Steyn performances for the Springboks and for the Bulls.    Morne always was a sub-standard flyhalf with the following deficiencies:-


*  Lack of Ball sense and inadequate decision making;


*  Poor and unacceptable defence; and


*  Deficient strategic  and line kicking.


The first two issues is obvious and has been discussed in detail- but let us look at the third issue - because that one was not adequately addressed in the past.   The issue of penalty line kicks became endemic in recent tests.   Morne far too often misses relieving line penalty kicks and donated opportunities for the opposition to counter-attack.  It happened repeatedly in the RC tests and even in the EOYT.   His so-called strategic kicks are anything but strategic.   They are way to far ahead and the opposition easily fields the balls and either counter-attack or return punishing line kicks.


When the issue of flyhalf play was recently discussed the celebrated Mozart made an idiotic remark about it not being a requirement for the Springbok team that a flyhalf receives the ball at pace and passes it at pace - that making it a unique SA play characteristic.   It is obvious that t is now for the first time required from Morne to play the style which is normal with flyhalfs  throughout the World.  He failed in that -hence the timing issue mentioned above.  After his vigorous defence of Morne and his vicious and unwarranted attacks on alternative players - just one question for Mozart:-


 "How do you want it served - Boiled, scrambled, poached, in an omelette, devilled, in soldiers, runny, in a Benedict, with mayo?


No flyhalf can warrant his inclusion in the team because his goalkicking is good.  That is what Morne's sole claim to fame is.   Since he joined Stade Francais  he had about 210 minutes of playing time for his club - so the question arises how long Stade Francais is going to take to try and get out of the contract.  How soon are they going to realize that he is not worth it?   It won't be the first time that an SA player flopped abroad - one just have to look at Francois Steyn - whom Racing Metro would not sign a contract renewal after his contract terminated and returned to SA - where he was a serious flop in subsequent matches.  


The real truth is that Morne was not a real asset for the Springboks or the Bulls - but a serious liability.   The French coaching staff realises it soon enough - but Meyer fails to see what was going on.     It is already past the stage where we must look at alternatives - and we are lucky - we have sufficient competent flyhalfs available to replace the incompetent Morne Steyn.          

BE
Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
31 Dec 2013, 15:19
#2
31 Dec 2013, 15:19#2
 Ou maaaikie I am sure Morne will start at Stade in due course as he is too good a player not to. Just be patient and he will settle down as I am sure you hope he will.
Wherher he will again take the flyhalf spot for the Boks depends on Lambie and even Goosen.They have to play w ell enough to remove Steyn. They have also the benefit of playing here in SA. Meyer being the wise coach he is will sum up matters and will more than likely get it right.

ST
Sun-TzuClub Pro713 posts
31 Dec 2013, 16:50
#3
31 Dec 2013, 16:50#3
 Michael, you truly understand no aspect of backline play, if not anything at all. Was Morne not part of the 2010 Bulls team that is statistically the best performing Super rugby side in attack, in Super rugby history? Yes, they played off him. Playing off flat ball is not hard, but it does play into the defenders hands in the modern game. Contrary to popular belief, playing off flat ball requires the backs to condense and play off short passes. not the wide game you had proposed most of the year. I don't even know where to begin in educating you Michael, you are that far gone and clueless.

@Beeno: Goosen will most likely be understudy to Morne, a handy little player, but with quite significant vulnerabilities. Lambie first and foremost needs to prove he is even a flyhalf at all, then show us in no uncertain terms he is up to Super rugby standard. The final hurdle then being to prove he is test level standard. It's a very tall order for a player who has been floundering for the better part of four years. So far all he has shown is Currie Cup ability. My prediction is that by time Morne moves on another player will be on the scene and all the pretenders we have ever discussed up to this point will be gone or exposed and waning. This in a few years time.
CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
02 Jan 2014, 04:43
#4
02 Jan 2014, 04:43#4

 Sun Tzu


Sorry - the people who  rate Morne as a flyhalf are the ones most in need of rugby education.  If you believe Morne is a good enough pivot- you must also believe the moon is made of green cheese.


If I have  to rate our flyhalfs  over the last 50 years, Morne will be in the bottom 10% - only because of his goal kicking,    He has far too many negatives to make him a top flyhalf.   Backlines "feeding" off him is a joke - a stagnant flyhalf can never be a good backline feeder - and Morne stands dead still receiving he ball, never even look like he is a dangerous attacker and pass the ball virtually standing dead still.  That element is what is unacceptable for Stade Francais.        

— END OF THREAD —

More from Rugby

More news