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Morne Steyn caled up by Coetzee?

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
13 Jun 2016, 10:28
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13 Jun 2016, 10:28#1

The following from News 24:-

“Experienced flyhalf Morne Steyn is set to join the Springbok squad as injury cover for Pat Lambie, a report indicates.

Springbok team management confirmed on Sunday that the Sharks pivot will rest the coming week and will be monitored by the medical team.

Team doctor Konrad von Hagen said even though Lambie’s x-rays showed no abnormality, he will however undergo further scans as a precaution.

Lambie was injured in a tackle that saw Irish flank CJ Stander being red-carded for dangerous play in the first half of the first Test at Newlands on Saturday.

The Springboks said a decision on a replacement for Lambie will be made in due course, but according to Afrikaans newspaper, Rapport, Steyn has already been informed that he must join up with the team.

The 31-year-old Steyn, who boasts 60 Test caps, currently plies his trade at French club Stade Francais.”

 

Morne Steyn was piss poor in his last starting test in Perth in 2014 and nothing better for his club Stade Francais this year.   Matter of fact he was mostly on the bench for Stade Francais in the past season in Top 14.    

 

His call-up will be a further nail in the coffin of the Springboks – matter of fact it will be scandalous and ruin the already under-performing backline further.   One has to accept that will be the case.  Why not call up the top class performer Goosen instead?   

CE
CeradynePro9,374 posts
13 Jun 2016, 10:34
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13 Jun 2016, 10:34#2
 
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
13 Jun 2016, 10:40
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13 Jun 2016, 10:40#3
 What a rugby contribution by an absolute dunce.  
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bluebokPro3,977 posts
13 Jun 2016, 10:53
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13 Jun 2016, 10:53#4
Bwahahahaha! Mike....deep breaths! However, I agree regarding Goosen, but it is what it is. 
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WardadPro6,663 posts
13 Jun 2016, 11:37
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13 Jun 2016, 11:37#5
 Yeeehaaa !!!Bring back Morne ,bring back Morne !!!Mike wassat throbbing vein in er temple ?? Dont stroke out now !At least now you have a 'proper Bok 10 eh ?
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CleanCutPro9,905 posts
13 Jun 2016, 11:42
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13 Jun 2016, 11:42#6
 Calling the fragile little Goosen in would be another mistake the coach makes, Blue ... especially if he wants to slot him in at 10 ... which is no longer his position.
Calling Steyn in is a clear sign of panic and desperation.
Haaaaaaaaahahahahahahaa!!! The quota coach has hardly started and the wheels are already falling off. 
Who's next? Du Preez? Pienaar? Bakkies??
I love it. 
Goooooooo Ireland!!!!!!!!!

CE
CeradynePro9,374 posts
13 Jun 2016, 11:46
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13 Jun 2016, 11:46#7
 ComradeMike hearing the news about Morne Steyn's "call-up".

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WardadPro6,663 posts
13 Jun 2016, 11:57
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13 Jun 2016, 11:57#8
 Is Bennie Ossler still alive ?
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
13 Jun 2016, 12:11
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13 Jun 2016, 12:11#9
 Bringing back the defective bench player Steyn in place of Goosen - who played a top game for his club two weeks ago at flyhalf - shows the stupidity of the biggest  arsehole in the universe and his lack of rugby knowledge is simply amazing.  
JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
13 Jun 2016, 13:22
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13 Jun 2016, 13:22#10
 This Article by Rugby 365 says that it most likely is M. Steyn. At least Coetzee is not considering throwing April to the wolves.
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DennyCaptain12,893 posts
13 Jun 2016, 13:32
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13 Jun 2016, 13:32#11
 http://www.iol.co.za/sport/rugby/springboks/steyn-answers-bok-sos-call---report-2034009
Is Prozac available in 40mg, 60mg or perhaps 100mg??
JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
13 Jun 2016, 13:39
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13 Jun 2016, 13:39#12

Perhaps a drip feed of Prozac will be required for some Denny Or perhaps some will need the "Russian Blood transfusion".
CleverMike showing remarkable tolerance to bad news
Does that come with a Russian nurse?
DE
DennyCaptain12,893 posts
13 Jun 2016, 13:44
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13 Jun 2016, 13:44#13
 JW...just sit back and enjoy, a nywhere else you'd pay top dollar for good comedy.
JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
13 Jun 2016, 13:49
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13 Jun 2016, 13:49#14
Denny, CleverMike's premiums for medical insurance just went up due to dramatically higher risk of heart attack
DE
DennyCaptain12,893 posts
13 Jun 2016, 13:57
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13 Jun 2016, 13:57#15
 Oh please, this is dreadful......on top of that imagine the cost of all his nappy changes
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bluebokPro3,977 posts
13 Jun 2016, 14:09
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13 Jun 2016, 14:09#16
Look, I don't want Morne back in the side, but who else could we bring in to play in this important position? Pollard injured, Lambie injured, Katrakilis zombie, Brummer pffft! We have no choices people, its Jantjes starting and Steyn or Goosen....those are our options! 
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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
13 Jun 2016, 14:15
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13 Jun 2016, 14:15#17

What a pathetically conservative call.....poor Coetzee already panicking.


The obvious call was for the in form Goosen 

LU
lunaticClub Pro305 posts
13 Jun 2016, 14:18
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13 Jun 2016, 14:18#18
 Comrade Ceradyne..That man in the bed looks an awful lot like Matfield...... maybe Coetzee needs him too.. 
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Winesy83Rookie15 posts
13 Jun 2016, 14:36
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13 Jun 2016, 14:36#19
 I imagine as Racing's season is still going Goosen is not available yet. He might not have a clause in his contract allowing him to be released. I'm giving A.C benefit of the doubt here but as Bluebok says there isn't anyone else. Hopefully Elton stays fit and this is irrelevant anyway. 
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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
13 Jun 2016, 14:39
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13 Jun 2016, 14:39#20
Butch James would have been a better option than Morne.....or we could have gone with Schalk at 10  
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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
13 Jun 2016, 14:49
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13 Jun 2016, 14:49#21
 That's laughable.....Jantjies on the park when Morne is on the bench. Surely the other way round would make more sense.....hahaha.
sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,269 posts
13 Jun 2016, 14:49
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13 Jun 2016, 14:49#22
This is pathetic. 
Before the match kicks off- Coetzee was talking to the TV presenters and said that South Africa is gong to play more expansive
This is typical of our pathetic coaches. Talk expansive play at the start of the season, then badly coach the team on the expansive play, then lose- and revert to 10 man rugby.
Morne Steyn mostly plays ten man rugby- so his selection finishes of the honeymoon of expansive rugby
MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
13 Jun 2016, 14:51
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13 Jun 2016, 14:51#23
 We did play "more expansive"....Jantjies ran or passed the ball 34 times and kicked 6 times....how expansive do you want?
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PakieCaptain17,321 posts
13 Jun 2016, 15:04
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13 Jun 2016, 15:04#24
You can't play expansive rugby with backs who don't know how to run straight, or lack even the most basic of skills like draw and pass. Currently the Boks' expansive game consists of passing the ball down the backline as quickly as possible so the guy at the end can run it into touch before the score of converging, unchallenged drift defenders can isolate him and turn the ball over.
MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
13 Jun 2016, 15:07
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13 Jun 2016, 15:07#25
 Right....you are making a lot of sense today Pakie . If you don't create some penetration or mismatch via the inside backs, the outside backs are simply crowded out in the modern game.
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XaviPro1,924 posts
13 Jun 2016, 15:07
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13 Jun 2016, 15:07#26
 Pakie just hit the nail on the head.
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DennyCaptain12,893 posts
13 Jun 2016, 15:07
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13 Jun 2016, 15:07#27
 Pakie...it's called shuffleball.
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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
13 Jun 2016, 15:53
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13 Jun 2016, 15:53#28

Funny Pakie that the same backs like de Allende and Willie were creating space and making an impact this time last year at the highest level.


Under Coetzee there is clearly no attempt to run angle s, different lines, decoy runners etc.......it looks like players just going through the motions passing the ball down the line and hoping for the best 

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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
13 Jun 2016, 16:09
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13 Jun 2016, 16:09#29
 Well Jantjies did not create his "normal" space with his running and passing. It seems that we were ill prepared for the rush defence. We had no answers to that.
MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
13 Jun 2016, 16:18
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13 Jun 2016, 16:18#30
I am amazed the S15 teams haven't done this..... the Canes provided the template.
sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,269 posts
13 Jun 2016, 17:53
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13 Jun 2016, 17:53#31
SA coaches favour Morne because he always follows the game plan even if it is the wrong one. Should have called up Goosen
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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
13 Jun 2016, 17:58
#32
13 Jun 2016, 17:58#32
 Very few will thrive in a Bok set up all at sea. 
I think Boschoff could be an adequate replacement. 
JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
13 Jun 2016, 21:37
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13 Jun 2016, 21:37#33
Morn é Steyn looked sharper than most of his teammates, SA Rugby Mag

Flyhalf Morné Steyn looked sharper than most of his teammates at the Springboks’ training session on Monday afternoon. JON CARDINELLI reports from Johannesburg.

The first field session that follows a disappointing defeat can be a brutal affair. Indeed, who could forget the koppestamp session that was staged after the Boks’ 29-15 loss in Dublin in 2014.

On that occasion, the Boks put absolutely everything into the exercise. While it left a few of the players battered and bruised, it set the tone for the rest of the week. The following Saturday, the Boks made a physical statement against England at Twickenham, and won the match.

Allister Coetzee and indeed every Bok fan will be hoping for a similar backlash at Ellis Park this Saturday. The Boks lost 26-20 to Ireland at Newlands last Saturday. They were outplayed physically and tactically, and will have much to prove in the second Test.

However, they have not begun the week especially well. Those who were at the training session at St Stithians College on Monday afternoon will vouch for the fact that the Boks still seem be lacking the necessary grunt and guile.

Coetzee has made it clear that the quality of the ball-carrying needs to improve after a poor performance at the gainline at Newlands. On Monday, the Boks were put through a series of ball-carrying drills.

While there was more intent from the Boks, they weren’t under any defensive pressure. The young players recruited from the University of Johannesburg to hold tackle bags did their best. However, it would be a stretch to suggest they emulated the rabidity and timing of Ireland's defence.

Duane Vermeulen (knee) and Lood de Jager (calf) missed the session as they were recovering from minor injuries. Both are expected to train on Tuesday and be available for selection this weekend.

If Vermeulen and De Jager fail to pass fit, then Warren Whiteley will start at No 8 and Pieter-Steph du Toit at 5. Whiteley and Du Toit trained in these positions on Monday.

Handling was a problem for the Boks this past Saturday. It was also a problem at the training session on Monday.

The backs struggled to gel during the session. On several occasions, a pass found the turf instead of a supporting player. And on many occasions, the offending player cried out in frustration.

One player who seemed to be on form during the session was ‘new recruit' Morné Steyn. The flyhalf has been brought into the squad to provide cover for Elton Jantjies, and will be named in the match 23 on Thursday.

The 60-Test veteran, who currently plays his club rugby for Stade Français, had no trouble settling into the new structures. His cross-kicking was of a particularly high standard.

Coetzee has asked for a better tactical-kicking performance this Saturday. It bodes well that Steyn appears to be in good kicking form ahead of a crucial game against Ireland.

While Jantjies is set to start at Ellis Park, Steyn may be called upon to make a telling contribution later in the contest.

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CeradynePro9,374 posts
13 Jun 2016, 21:46
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13 Jun 2016, 21:46#34
 No man, JW. Do you want ComradeMike and Dave to overdose on the Prozac? 
JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
13 Jun 2016, 21:49
#35
13 Jun 2016, 21:49#35
 He should stick to Russian vodka
Ceradyne, how to you copy stats from other web sites, crop them and paste them into a thread? 
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
13 Jun 2016, 22:05
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13 Jun 2016, 22:05#36
 Morne Steyn's team went missing in the Top 14 competition and he is on holiday in SA.  Goosen is still required by Racing Metro and as a key player the club would not easily release him from playing in the tournament semi on Friday.  That was probably the reason for Coetzee calling up the useless Morne as back-up for one test only.   The man remains the poorest loosie the Springboks had from 2012 and no asset to the team.    
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
13 Jun 2016, 22:05
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13 Jun 2016, 22:05#37
 Morne Steyn's team went missing in the Top 14 competition and he is on holiday in SA.  Goosen is still required by Racing Metro and as a key player the club would not easily release him from playing in the tournament semi on Friday.  That was probably the reason for Coetzee calling up the useless Morne as back-up for one test only.   The man remains the poorest loosie the Springboks had from 2012 and no asset to the team.    
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WardadPro6,663 posts
14 Jun 2016, 00:23
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14 Jun 2016, 00:23#38
 The best most 'expansive" game the Boks have played recently was in the 2013 game against the ABS at h home in SA ,with Morne at 10 !No kidding I actually rate the guy ,if he p!ssess off us Kiwis theres a reason eh ?
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
14 Jun 2016, 07:40
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14 Jun 2016, 07:40#39
 

The following from News24:-     

“Experienced Springbok flyhalf Morne Steyn has been called up as replacement for the injured Pat Lambie who suffered concussion against Ireland on Saturday at Newlands.

Lambie will take a mandatory break of one week following his injury in Cape Town and will therefore miss the second Test match at Ellis Park in Johannesburg on Saturday.

Lambie underwent precautionary scans on Sunday, which proved normal, and he was examined for a third time on Monday morning by Springbok team doctor, Dr Konrad von Hagen. The player has already returned to his home in Durban.

According to Springbok coach Allister Coetzee, Steyn, who has 60 Test caps to his name, was always in his plans as a flyhalf replacement option in the event of injury to one of the three flyhalves in the squad. Handré Pollard, another Bok regular at No 10, is also injured at the moment.

“I made it clear we would definitely consider Morne as a replacement option because of his vast experience, and I would therefore not hesitate to draft him into the match-day squad,” explained Coetzee.

“Garth April is still a talented young man and was selected to learn and to develop. It is his first year in Vodacom Super Rugby and his involvement with the squad will benefit him in the long run. Pat will return home for this week and we want to wish him well with his recovery.”

Prolific points’ scorer Steyn plays for French club Stade Francais, but as their season has already concluded, he is already back in South Africa. He is also the most experienced flyhalf in Bok history and has scored 694 Test points since making his debut for South Africa on 20 June 2009 against the British & Irish Lions in Durban, aged 24.

Meanwhile, the Coetzee confirmed the full squad will remain in camp for the entire week. Last week, the Springboks released four squad members to the SA ‘A’ team for their clash against the England Saxons in Bloemfontein.

Coetzee explains the decision: “All our players will stay with us for this week as SA ‘A’ coach Johan Ackermann has requested to give playing opportunities to more members of his squad. Our players will be on standby should they be needed on short notice.”

The Springboks will on Monday afternoon start their preparations for the second Test against Ireland with a field training session at St Stithians College in Sandton, followed by an autograph session with fans.”

 

Meyer made a complete hash of his selections by disregarding performance and based his selections purely on reputation,   Now Coetzee is following suit - one can indeed say idiots of the world unite in this case,  Morne Steyn has had a horrendous performing record since 2012.  He was once dropped from the Springbok team in 2012 and twice (the second time after he himself managed to lose a test all on his own)  because of terrible performance deficiencies.   Since joining Stade Francais he was mainly a bench player for the club – the past season he was a major reason why the team did so badly in Top 14.  

 

But according to Coetzee this 31 year-old test failure is good enough to play for the Springboks,   Coetzee started off his coaching career badly – but if Morne Steyn is an indication as to where he is going – we are in for a disaster with him as coach.
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CleanCutPro9,905 posts
14 Jun 2016, 08:27
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14 Jun 2016, 08:27#40
 I wonder how Jantjies feels about this?
Selected ... and then rejected.
This quota coach has no confidence in his squad.  
Seems he has no plans for April either. I wonder what the though was behind his selection? Baggage handler perhaps?
"Throwing him to the wolves" .... Haaaaaaaaaaaahahahahahahaha!!! Since when are the Irish team wolves? They're cute little cubs.  
The All Blacks are the wolves , Alister ... and they're going to chew you up and spit you out.
Look forward to it .

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