24 Aug 2014, 01:57#2
Hougaard also played well from the bench, ruck protection kind of went downhill and he got taken off guard a few times but he managed to do well.
CLclevermike
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CLclevermikeCoach57,555 posts
24 Aug 2014, 02:05#3
Shezza There need to be some housecleaning. Morne's kicking at goal - the rest of his game was standard. He nearly gave the victory to the Argentinians by making a clueless kick directly into touch - he never thinks about what to do correctly.
Jannie and Gurthro was disgusting. Juan Smith invisible - Bakkies Botha's only role was to give away a penalty which cost us. I warned before the game that I am not sure about the performances of the Franch club players - they tend to be substandad\rd on international level.
The other player that has done squat last week and the same this week was Jean d Villiers - is he on a downward slide in performance?
I think our line outs was sold enough - it was the scrums that was a disgrace. I think we need to start looking at things again and start getting rid of the feriatrics - they are playing on reputation and their performances are no good.
MOMozart
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MOMozartCaptain49,914 posts
24 Aug 2014, 02:07#4
I agree with most of those comments. De Allende is also a liability though. If you look at the try scored in the Hendricks corner, there was. A clear "v" in our defensive line. De Allende was two paces back of jean, it reminded me of JJ. As did his ball.oss on the stroke of the half. He would also have been carded if the Bargie TMO feed hadn't failed
MOMozart
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MOMozartCaptain49,914 posts
24 Aug 2014, 02:08#5
Morne threw a brilliant long flat pass to set up the crucial Hendricks try OOm. He was a big part of why we won in the end.
24 Aug 2014, 02:10#6
I'll admit that I would have hated to see Morne start the game against this Argentina side, I think Meyer made the correct calls at flyhalf, I also take comfort in the fact that Jannie and Gurthro Steenkamp were replaced after half time. Which is a sign that Meyer was not happy with them.
That's another one I've forgot about, De Villiers was crap, his runs were crap, his defending was crap and his creativity was crap. Crap.
De Jager looks incredible green, he should be making the tackle against the Argie scrummie preventing him from scoring. He looked weak out there today.
24 Aug 2014, 02:16#7
It would have really been helpful to see De Allende to play in June, that would have been a true gauge to whether 13 is his position.
Difference between JJ and De Allende is that Engelbrecht had De Villiers in good form on his inside. I'm going to wait until the end of the year to cast a final verdict whether De Allende suits outside center (assuming that he plays all the matches from now until the end of the year).
GTGonzo the Great
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GTGonzo the GreatClub Pro560 posts
24 Aug 2014, 02:30#8
jean had never been hood on attavk but it looks like tge days of him being a goid defender are well gone. strauss has always been better than bismarck. we played thr best dvrumming nation on earth so not surprised they beat us there. overall ill take the win like i said guys argentina fresh are a really tough side. in thr past we would nevet have had the clout to score three tries when the oppo have parity ir dominance up front.
CLclevermike
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CLclevermikeCoach57,555 posts
24 Aug 2014, 11:17#9
Mozart
Stop your BS about players. Allende was two sateps back - De Villiers has gone out of line like he did in the Ellis Park test - so blame the ouside center.
I know you will find a reason to blame De Allende for something. That was it - you are really the worst when it comes to inventing things to blame players for players your dislike and exonerating the BS dished out by the players you support.
GTGonzo the Great
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GTGonzo the GreatClub Pro560 posts
24 Aug 2014, 14:23#10
defence is as much individual as colective. the inside and outside channel of the main defender can go a long way to dictating how effective the one-on-one defences are. jean shooting out the line exposes the space behind him but also leaves the main defender vulnerable. against teams that throw lots of inside balls from second and third phase it causes chaos! i agree with mika here jean let the side down because his only ewaon is the intercept so its his habbit to shoot out of the line and get caught with his pants down. he cost us many times in the past like at ellis park. at ellis park we ended up defending not as a solid line with the outside and inside defenders of the main defender covering shoulders but as one on ones sitting ducks. this must be stamped out now. we are starting to defend like australia in that way and it gifts smooth steppers the chance to put support runners away. jean must be dropped! he doesnt even have the leadership to correct the problem either just carries on.