Moz's xxx player ratings

Well I never - the liar is back

Der Allende did not miss the initial tackle  on Brown was on Pollard and by the time De Allende got near enough to make a tackle Brown  was on the tryline and despite a successful tackle by De Allende a try was scored.     You also missed what happened in the case of the first Nkosi try? - 7

So Beast was outstanding and Louw was OK.   The scrums while those two were on was poor to feeble.    It was totally turned around when they were benched,  So they get 7 and 5 - how is that possible? - 5 and 4 more likely.

Mostert = missed tackles as well and produced very little - 4

Pollard was good in attacking and a disaster in defending  - 6

Did I comment on them dumbo?

The tractor was better than expected. Faf, Vermeulen, Willie and Pollard won it for us.

The Official SharkBok Rankings---------------------------

Willie le Roux: 9

A brilliant playmaker that was able to bring the wingers into the game more. One of the best fullbacks in the world, if not the best. He brings an extra dimension to the Bok backline, as he did during the Meyer era. Alister Coetzee really blundered this selection more than any other.

It would be interesting to see him playing in an All Black team with other backs that also have very good passing skills. He is a revelation for the Boks on the attack, enter at 2nd receiver. 

S’bu Nkosi: 8.0

He has the physical presence for test rugby. He could be in for a very long Bok career. He is a very dangerous ball in hand with a good step. 

Both wings sometimes seemed to be playing too flat on defence and were taken out of the game on most of the English tries. 

Lukhanyo Am: 6

His first test was solid. 

Damian de Allende: 6.5

Done a few offloads and avoided going into contact on every opportunity. His tackle was the worst of the season so far. All he had to do was put his arms around the player and hold on.

Aphiwe Dyantyi: 7.5

Very effective on the kick and chase. Showed test calmness under pressure pop passing to make the space for Nkosi to score. He looks very confident when running with the ball. Strong with a good step. 

Handre Pollard: 6.5

His running lines on attack are very good- and this gives Willie Leroux lots of time and space to tun on to the ball at full speed. Pole kicking was bad and did not do the much territorial kicking. Made a few silly tackles carries instead of offloading to nearby forwards. 

Faf de Klerk: 8.5

High work rate. Seems to play better with a good coach. 

Duane Vermeulen: 8.5

Without Marx, the breakdown was always going to be an issue. It would be good to see both Marx and Vermeulen at the same breakdown. 

Dumb-Luc du Preez: 5.

Powerful, but not much thought process. Always seemed to take the ball from a standing position.

Siya Kolisi: 6.5

Decent game. If a captain should ever get credit, the turn around on the scoreboard should

Franco Mostert: 6

High work rate at the ruck.

RG Snyman: 8

Physical and showed good speed. Will he gas Etzebeth and 

Wilco Louw: 5.5

Average at best

Bongi Mbonambi: 6.5

Solid the whole game. Most lineouts were near the front of the lineout though.

Tendai Mtawarira: 6

ISolid

Substitutes:

Steven Kitshoff: 8- 

Thomas du Toit - 7.5- Looked good, and at a place 

Pieter-Stephanie - 7

I used that as a template but corrected where appropriate

Still a joke     The scrumming was iffy up to the time Du Toit and Kitshof came on,    What  did Mostert do to deserve a 7    He missed a couple of tackles and gave away a penalty.   Nothing e lse of note.    And Am???????  His defense was putrid.    

A 6 for doing what??????  

A 6 for doing what??????  

Was it process tackles - whatever that may mean?   The original stats indicated 9 tackles and 2 misses - so I must accept that the revised tackle count is now correct and final. The fact is that it is one aspect of a positive nature,  for the rest he was totally ineffective.  

Overall, the one player who made the most difference was Faf.

Smallest guy on the park but without him the Boks stood no chance of winning.

Made a ton of out front pin point passes that forced our usually flat footed line to run onto the ball. His speed of service was England's biggest menace of the day and he disrupted some great England territory to stifle their attack.

I though Pollard was excellent. Made some brilliant plays. His tee kicking wasn't great. Missed the infamous Brown tackle though.

Duane aside, none of the forwards were spectacular.

Kitshoff is ranged from solid to monstrous.

Beast was just solid. Made no big carries or offloads. Pretty much the same for Wilco and Tank. Overall we had scrum dominance and that should remain the same for the last two games. With Marx's return things will look better.  

Mostert went relatively unnoticed despite probably visiting the most rucks. There's value in that work rate.

Snyman sits behind Duane as second best forward on the day. One crucial lineout intervention that may have been match saving.

Still would like to see Goboko there. 

Allende has to go with Esterhuizen starting in his place. This has now become a no brainer.

Bongi played miles better than expected and I'm happy for him. Heart goes a long way. Not a shade of Marx though.

PSDT should probably start for DUPs next time round.

plum

Sorry but selections should not be done on personal likes and dislikes.  What no-brainer are you talking about?   De Allende made 10 tackles missing none and although you and Mozart try to pin Brown's try on him - it was utter BS.   

Also he drew in two defenders and off-loaded the ball to Nkosi in enough space to launch a successful try by the latter,  You also missed that one - so perhaps you did not want to see it.

It is no use - De Allende will remain.  However, I would move him to 13 to replace Am who  was totally ineffective and in fact a liability and bring in Esterhuizen at 12.

Maybe you are right about Du Toit replacing Du Preez at 7 - but I would prefer it if he replaces Mostert - as the line-out calling by Mostert was poor,   He only took one line-out on own throw because he called the line-outs invariably to go to Snyman and Vermeulen.   Against other teams it may go pear-shaped  and Eddie Jones may have realized it and place his best line-out jumpers to face those two and ignore Mostert.   It would be suicidal against a team like the AB's where at least four forwards must be available to take throw-ins. 

"It is no use - De Allende will remain.  However, I would move him to 13 to replace Am who  was totally ineffective and in fact a liability and bring in Esterhuizen at 12."

Mike I would have Serfontein, Am, Esterhuizen and Kwagga.

All of them hit the gain line, pass, think and move better than DomLende. 

Let's not forget Werner Kok either. 

Allende's claim to fame yesterday was drawing a couple of defenders and making a pass. If that's the new gold standard for a 12 then by gosh we've fallen a long way.

I also don't know what game you were watching because De Allende met a slowed down Brown on the 5m line and failed st stop him. That's what everyone else saw. What did you see?

We've become so used to Kriel and De Allende screwing up things that when they have average performances we think that they belong. Jessica doesn't and neither does DimLinda.

Ja Mike, I'm no DdA fan, but that offload to Mkosi probably made the try possible and that basically started the comeback.  Possible game changer. The momentum  changed into our favour after that try. I see people are looking for reasons to slate Damian. 

Draad

DomLinda's career might go one of two ways from here.

Either the seemingly skilled backs selected now are going toto show him up as not being on their level...

Or he is going to feed off of them and up his game. 

He's presently one of the most experienced guys in the side and his performances should over the course of this year not be on par with theirs. Players are supposed to improve with experience and he's now in his prime so failing some stellar performances my view would be that somebody else should get a shot.

He was bog ordinary yesterday and comparing him to Am who was playing in his first real test, well it kinda shows how little we've come to expect from LindA.

Conversely one could also say that his missed tackle started the downward spiral of the first quarter of the game.

Pl;um

I know De Allende is one of your pet hates and it really is useless to argue with you about his role in the team.   I support players on the basis of performance - you on the basis of the provincial franchise they play for.

However, there is one topic nobody talks about and that is Etzebeth.  He will have to up his normal game by at least 50% if he wants to be selected ahead of Snyman in future..   That may be an interesting discussion topic = the rest are just repeats of what is known repeatedly on site.

However, let me warn you against one Mozart misdemeanors on site,   He gives fake names to players he dislikes and give false descriptions of what really happen in games.   Stay away from fake names - leave that to the old discredited liar.