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Mozart an homnest assessment please.

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
07 Feb 2018, 18:02
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07 Feb 2018, 18:02#1

What is to be done with Amla - in three ODI's he scored 40 runs for an average of 13,3 runs,   You have been on an anti De Kok and Markram  campaign - but what about Amla - so what is your opinion about that ??????

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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
07 Feb 2018, 18:15
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07 Feb 2018, 18:15#2

Amla seems to be fading as age catches up with him?

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
07 Feb 2018, 18:25
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07 Feb 2018, 18:25#3

Beeno - True.   The problem is that the eye-hand co-ordination deteriorates with. aging  and he is now at a stage of 1 reasonable performance in seven is becoming the norm.    

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PlumCaptain21,007 posts
07 Feb 2018, 18:32
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07 Feb 2018, 18:32#4

Mike 

Amla has lost his bat speed. For a guy that scores most of his runs on the off side that's a huge problem.

On can try to counter that by playing straighter but ultimately your nature works against you because it's hard to out think instinct.

That's why Kallis lasted so long. His natural game was in the V. Much easier to meet a ball straight on than outside off. You'll score more slowly but you don't need much bat speed to be successful. Your main concern being drawn into shot outside your zone. 

Amla has earned respect that Quintie can only hope for. So did Kallis. But He is still young, has ample talent and time so he could get there.

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
07 Feb 2018, 20:47
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07 Feb 2018, 20:47#5
Disagree. Amla has exaggerated his step across the wicket in this series, putting himself in a position where any ball that nips back traps him in front. It’s a Characteristic aspect of his technique, but it has become too extreme. Quinton by contrast plays well away from his body, with his elbow chicken winged out. With his fabulous eye and timing he makes it work.......as long as the ball isn’t moving. Amla has played a long career with the bat Zooming in from the off.....we will have to see if Quintie can do the same with a chicken wing. By contrast Markham looks technically conventional and promissing. But is this captaincy doing him any good when he is still settling....learning shot selection. Methinks not and I hope it doesn’t affect his batting. Our guys need to play straight to the spinners and use their feet......to date they have either been trapped in their crease or taken big cross batted swipes. Miller is such a disappointing player.
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
07 Feb 2018, 20:56
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07 Feb 2018, 20:56#6

Plum

I always respect sportsmen who like Kallus and Amla for their massive achievements but I also have a problem namely that they are heroes as long as they are performing on the level comparable with their reputation.  

When they start deteriorating and continue to play they display the tendency to destroy their own  reputation..  Be it as it may, Amla is not the same player he used to be do and he should play lower down in the batting order maybe that would help,                 

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
07 Feb 2018, 21:38
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07 Feb 2018, 21:38#7
Test series total runs: AB 211. Elgar 207. Amla 203. Faf 183. Markham 140. Quintie 72 Because of Markham’s failures in all but 2 innings Amla effectively opened the batting and he was within 10 runs of series topping AB. Tell me again why it is we are dropping him, or ‘dropping him in the order’?
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PlumCaptain21,007 posts
07 Feb 2018, 23:49
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07 Feb 2018, 23:49#8

Moz 

Amla has been stepping across to compensate for his loss of bat speed.

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
08 Feb 2018, 04:57
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08 Feb 2018, 04:57#9

Mozart

Do you know the difference between ODI's and tests?   

So lets look at the case of Amla in the Indian test series.    Amla had one good innings and the other five  innings were average to poor.   In the good innings Amla had been LBW 3 times where the umpire did not give him out and appeals replays showed he was out.  So even in tests there were serious question marks as to his reliability.

However -  the comments relate to ODI's not tests.   Amla was poor in the last three ODI's and the  same problem persist - the increasing eye-hand co-ordination problem,   

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
08 Feb 2018, 06:04
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08 Feb 2018, 06:04#10
Plum I’ ll have to take your word for it, to me he is getting himself in a more loaded position which requires the bat to come through at lightning speed if there is any movement into his legs.
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
08 Feb 2018, 09:13
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08 Feb 2018, 09:13#11

Mozart

Amla started off poorly with a terrible technical problem - which to his credit he overcame.   However, he obviously realized that there is a problem so he developed a new form of technical deficiency as a counter,   That will not help because the problem remains he is getting poorer as he ages.         

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
08 Feb 2018, 09:13
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08 Feb 2018, 09:13#12

Mozart

Amla started off poorly with a terrible technical problem - which to his credit he overcame.   However, he obviously realized that there is a problem so he developed a new form of technical deficiency as a counter,   That will not help because the problem remains he is getting poorer as he ages.         

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
08 Feb 2018, 09:13
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08 Feb 2018, 09:13#13

Mozart

Amla started off poorly with a terrible technical problem - which to his credit he overcame.   However, he obviously realized that there is a problem so he developed a new form of technical deficiency as a counter,   That will not help because the problem remains he is getting poorer as he ages.         

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PlumCaptain21,007 posts
08 Feb 2018, 10:27
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08 Feb 2018, 10:27#14

Moz 

It's considered easier to play off your pads since the bat still comes down relatively straight. All the stubborn but less skilled players like Waugh, Kallis, Smith played in that way. Bowling outside off on a length to Amla in years gone by used to spell disaster for bowlers. Not so much now.

I don't think he helps his cause much though. He should bulk up his arms a bit. Guy is skinny hell. The o nly way to get that speed back or at least slow it's retreat is through time in the gym.

Regardless of recent form, the guys contribution to SA cricket has been immense.

He'll retire in the next year I guess but who knows if he'll ever replaced.

What about when AB calls it a day? Our bowling is healthy but there doesn't seem to be a solid top 3 on the horizon.

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