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Mozart - do you think Jean de Villiers does not know center play?

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
20 Apr 2022, 03:38
#1
20 Apr 2022, 03:38#1

The question arises from the following comments made by Jean about De Allende:-


Talking about De Allende, former Bok captain Jean de Villiers – who is one of the greatest inside centres to ever play for South Africa – heaped praise on the Bok star.


“In the last couple of years, he has just been phenomenal in the way he has played for Munster and the value for the Springboks has just been amazing,” the former Bok skipper said, as quoted by SARugbymag.co.za. “He was probably among the top-three players for South Africa at the World Cup. His consistency even after that has just been immense.


“His distributing skills as a 12 really is fantastic. His defensive skills, he is like a loose forward in midfield, being able to tackle; he hardly misses a tackle and he is so good on the ground competing as well. That creates slow ball for the opposition and makes defence through phases easier.


“I have only got respect for Damian for what he has achieved and how he has improved his game. At this stage, there is no reason why he should be slowing down. He was phenomenal over the weekend again, great performance. In terms of what he offers the Springboks, he is critical for the success of the Boks and his partnership with Lukhanyo Am has been phenomenal as well.”


So who is right on the De Allende issue - Jean de Villiers or you?

 


SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
20 Apr 2022, 10:26
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20 Apr 2022, 10:26#2
Those that don’t see the value in DA don’t know their rugby It’s the same people who see all the heart and energy in Mostert As Greenwood said - you stop DA, you stop the Boks
MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
20 Apr 2022, 15:40
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20 Apr 2022, 15:40#3

Well if Jean thinks Dud Allende is a great distributor he clearly is talking nonsense. Even Dud’s fans wouldn’t call him a great distributor.. As for defence, Dud lost the Pom game with the worst defensive blunder of the year.

My guess is this is a case of Jean trying to look generous by praising his vastly inferior successor.

MP
MpowerPro5,061 posts
20 Apr 2022, 16:25
#4
20 Apr 2022, 16:25#4

DA needs to work on his distribution and play making skills as our 12....and Jean describing him as a extra loose forward is most probably a subtle hint that maybe he should focus on being a 12....this is also exactly the fact why he fits in so well under R&N,s game plan...slow down the game, don't run or do any kind of structured attack, " mak vas" this is a stampkar or Kick party.. ...do more with the possession you get DA, after all you are our 12 and you should be playing accordingly


SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
20 Apr 2022, 21:13
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20 Apr 2022, 21:13#5
Mpower you are fucking clueless Moz what defensive blunder was that against England - you are lying As for Jean he knows a class centre when he sees one
MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
20 Apr 2022, 22:02
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20 Apr 2022, 22:02#6

No I’m not lying….the winning try…..Jantjies took his man, Dud the next man in the defensive line up moronically ambled  inside for no reason, leaving a Highway for Marchant….test lost.

You are lying Dave . …through your teeth.

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
21 Apr 2022, 07:10
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21 Apr 2022, 07:10#7

Mozargt

You are know for writing imaginary instances when you try and discredit players.   I looked at the incident and clearly saw what happened in the case of that try -  what you said happened was utter BS as per normal.   To accuse Dave of lying is typical when you in fact are writing tripe on site.

Is Jean de Villiers also a liar?      .       

MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
21 Apr 2022, 15:20
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21 Apr 2022, 15:20#8

Anybody who can’t see that Dud Allende’s incredibly stupid defensive mistake cost the Boks the Pom tests, knows nothing about rugby. I’m not surprised to find you in that camp Moron.

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
21 Apr 2022, 20:53
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21 Apr 2022, 20:53#9
Glad you think De Villiers is a moron  - so I am in good company.   Your idea to describe one make-believe deficiency as career-defining  is staggering in its stupidity.  
MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
21 Apr 2022, 21:54
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21 Apr 2022, 21:54#10

Glad you agree you are a moron. You are also a liar, you know Dud was responsible for that try. And if you say he wasn’t explain to me who had the assignment to tackle Marchant,

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
22 Apr 2022, 05:06
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22 Apr 2022, 05:06#11

Idiot supreme - you lied about everything you wrote about De Allende fopr years and nothing will change that.    Jean de Villiers and everybody expressing positive support for your pet hate players are morons.    Since your support to players are based on prejudice and you never support anything they do positively and in fact ignore it totally - you are totally wrong about players all the time.

So De Villiers is a moron too and you are correct in assessment.   Remember the WC game where  you totally ignore the De Allende try against Wales which ultimately was the key to the victory of the  Springboks in the semi-final - it just did not happen according to you.   And then there was the lie about a try-scoring opportunity created by Le Roux and destroyed by De Allende.   Your whole description of that farce were based on something totally dreamed up by you - there was no try-scoring opportunity at all  - so you created one in your imagination.    

One can only regard that as  idiocy supreme - but as per normal anybody expressing opinions opposed to you are morons - and that includes Jean de Villiers and Pollard.    What a total idiot you are when it comes to any sport - whether it is rugby, cricket or tennis.            

MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
22 Apr 2022, 16:13
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22 Apr 2022, 16:13#12
Sticks and stones…….just  provide the name of the player who was supposed to tackle Marchant if it wasn’t Dud. 
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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
24 Apr 2022, 23:35
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24 Apr 2022, 23:35#13
Bullshit Moz the lie is with you - we all know that it was Am that left the wide gap, that Slade ran at DA, that Smith ran a decoy Stop speaking shit and laying the blame with DA only an ignorant rugby follower would finger DA in that situation or possibly someone who ignorantly does not rate DA and looks to bullshit his way into blaming him at every turn despite him making your name mud at every such turn No single Bok was to blame for that try, credit goes to England for creating the opening thanks to a shift in the line of attack, a decoy runner and a great line run by Marchant
MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
25 Apr 2022, 04:52
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25 Apr 2022, 04:52#14

Oh okay Jantjies had the inside man….Am had Marchant….and Dud was there as an observer. Dud was totally bamboozled and lost the test. Case closed.

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PakieCaptain17,321 posts
25 Apr 2022, 09:44
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25 Apr 2022, 09:44#15

Jean appears to be the same kind of psychophant as Stransky.

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