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Mozart - read the following and see why it has to be De Allende and Kriel

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
02 Sept 2015, 18:08
#1
02 Sept 2015, 18:08#1
The following from News 24:
"The Blue Bulls have stolen a march on defending champions Western Province in more than just log-position terms in early Currie Cup rounds this season.

Their crowd-pleasing brand of rugby not only has them riding high, alongside near-neighbours the Golden Lions, with maximum points each from four matches, but also boasting a way superior try strike rate at this stage to their old southern foes.

Under the first-time tutelage of Nollis Marais, the Bulls have determinedly put to pasture the conservative, structures-based style that was a hallmark of Frans Ludeke’s closing year or two in charge, and reinvented themselves for champagne, 15-man attacking play at a tempo few would have expected to occur.


They are the top try-scorers as the round-robin phase prepares to reach the halfway mark this weekend with a pleasing 21; that is an average of 5.25 per game.

The rather distant, yet still third-placed Province (10 points adrift of the leading pair) can at least boast that they have conceded no more than the same tally of tries (11) as the Loftus-based crew, but when you look at the Capetonians’ “tries for” column things look rather less flattering for WP.


They have only registered 10 themselves, so that is more than 50 percent below the number achieved by the Bulls, for whom lean and hungry wing Jamba Ulengo leads the individual charge nationwide with six of his own.


This is bound to have caused one of those dissatisfied frowns on the face of WP’s director of rugby Gert Smal, who must be wondering quite how and why the Bulls have managed to “out-Province” his troops for entertainment value in the last few weeks.

Remember that a big, acknowledged drive when Smal took the hot seat at Newlands was his desire to recreate an exciting brand of rugby within a franchise that had been winning considerably more matches than losing them at all levels under the lengthy stewardship of Allister Coetzee, but too often in a relatively unlovable manner.


New WP coach John Dobson has experienced a pretty rough ride since assuming the tracksuit from Coetzee: after a sprightly enough opening-round victory in Kimberley, they have had three rather grim, shoddy performances on the trot.

They did at least eke out a desperately tight win (9-3) when they played Free State in the Newlands slush, but then they were near-slaughtered at Loftus (47-29) and the expected backlash, worryingly, failed to materialise a week later when they were outsmarted 28-21 in the return Cheetahs clash in Bloemfontein.


Just at present, Province seem caught betwixt and between in ideological approach, though a personal suspicion is that a certain complacency among players has taken temporary root in the camp, rather than any especially confusing messages or spanner-in-works tactics coming from their intelligent young coach.

As Currie Cup champions and South Africa’s conference winners in Super Rugby even more recently, perhaps a subconscious, foolhardy belief has occurred that WP simply have to take to the pitch to win.


Their forwards are just not hunting as a committed, cohesive “pack”, if you will pardon the cliché,although their cause hasn’t been helped by someone like Oliver Kebble, the strong-scrumming and fierce-driving loosehead prop, being struck down by injury of late; he had been one of few highly-touted names to produce the goods with proper urgency and zest at the outset of the competition.


You have to get your basics right before you can run the ball with any fluency, and WP have looked sloppy at lineout time and occasionally gormless and unbalanced, in truth, at the breakdown.


The one thing in their favour is that many in their fold have simply been under-delivering to known best standards, and if they collectively catch the proverbial wakeup quickly – starting against Griquas at home this weekend – WP can still challenge strongly for cup retention, even if the knockout route may now have to be a tougher one for them.

But if Province really should get back on the horse with some comfort this weekend, there’s little reason to believe the Bulls won’t continue on their own merry way – all that’s still absent is a reliable scrum -- when they entertain the Cheetahs in Pretoria on Friday night.

The Bulls have benefited quite substantially from the infusion of a couple of Bok “discards”, perhaps smarting after failing to make the cut for the UK.


Big Marcel van der Merwe, who played tigerishly at tighthead in the Buenos Aires triumph over Argentina before getting the chop, should help to stabilise the set-piece, whilst it is a reflection of their broad backline lustre that Jan Serfontein only filters back via the bench this weekend.


Coach Marais cannot be blamed for not wishing to tamper too much with the good thing going amongst his three-quarters.  There is just no way, for instance, that stripping Burger Odendaal of inside centre duty would be the correct course of action at present."


What does the above article tell us - it says that the rugby plan of Ludeke and his side-kick Matfield was BS in capital letters and that a different requirement is necessary. 


So how does the above translate to the national level?  The same dead backline approach was followed in the past by Meyer and he only as a result of injury veered from it when he was forced to play Kriel and De Allende as center.  That made the Springboks competitive in the tests against the AB's and Wallabies.   They lost both tests not because of problems in the backline - but through the fact that the players was not fit enough to last through the tests.   


So what happened in the subsequent Argentina test - where the players were in the main flat because of over-training in the week before the test - Meyer himself said that was the case.   very few players showed their mettle n that test - but one of the most spectacular failures was the splitting of the center combination by playing De Villiers at 13.  The whole backline on the few occasions that they did get decent ball from the forwards were out of zinc and ineffective.   The backline was just not functioning as efficiently as they did in the AB and Wallaby tests - FACT.


There is one thing very evident and that is that the Ludeke plan did not work out.  Fact is he kept some players in the team because of reputation - not of performance - and he used a dismal Matfield as attack coach, using him also in the team and even at times as captain.  That was the end of the Bulls as a team.   With Ludeke and Matfield gone out of the picture and the appointment of a decent captain and selection of players based on performance and not the rubbish dished out by Ludeke in selections - we suddenly find a functional team.


Unfortunately for Meyer he duplicated every mistake Ludeke made in the Bulls team and that landed the Springboks in the situation they are now.  Meyer was even cruder in his selection of reputation players  and the list of under-performers in the team is long.   De Villiers in 2014 was not a shadow of the player he was in 2013 and his injury in November last year added to the present scenario where he definitely was not match-fit.  Another injury in the Argentina test is just conforming the lack of game time and consequently match-fitness.   If he comes into the team at this stage Meyer should not be stupid and ruin the backline by playing him at center.  He should rather put him on the wing  or better still play him from the bench.   Any other arrangement would weaken the Springbok backline.


       

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
02 Sept 2015, 19:50
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02 Sept 2015, 19:50#2
I read no further than "Big Marcel played tigerishly"....when I read that I knew it was all balls.
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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
02 Sept 2015, 20:52
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02 Sept 2015, 20:52#3
 Jan Serfontein is highly rated by the bulle. Ex Supersport::

The Vodacom Blue Bulls welcomed back three Springboks to their side to face the Toyota Free State Cheetahs at Loftus Versfeld on Saturday.

Boks Marcel van der Merwe and Jan Serfontein both returned to the side after missing out on selection for the Springbok Rugby World Cup squad, while Francois Hougaard returns after missing their win over Griquas in Kimberley to attend his sister’s wedding.

Both Van der Merwe and Hougaard go straight into the starting line-up while Serfontein will start off the bench with coach Nollis Marais loathe to break up the successful midfield combination of Burger Odendaal and Dries Swanepoel.

With Serfontein back and William Small-Smith also available, it was a difficult choice as four simply doesn’t go into three and someone had to lose out. Marais chose to keep the same combination but said he will reward form in the coming weeks so the pressure will be on the midfield.

Jan Serfontein is such a good player, and we tried different combinations this week. Jan played with Dries (Swanepoel) at school and they haven’t played together for a while. We have had the combination of Dries and Burger (Odendaal) and it has worked well for us. It is a bit of a short week for us, we got the guys back on Monday and we’re playing on Friday so we thought the best for the team will be to put Jan on the bench and bring him on in the second half,” Marais said.

Jan was happy with that and obviously it might change next week, but for this week it was the best move for us. “William had concussion for the last two weeks and he only started training on Monday again. We had a discussion and he knows that he and Dan Kriel have to fight for positions again. It’s still open and those in the three positions must perform or we will do the change again. It’s a blessing to have so many centres of quality.

Marais was particularly happy with the return of Hougaard, who has been the team’s talisman on attack. (should have made squad)

“Hougi showed in the first three matches how good he is, and we missed him on the weekend against Griquas. Hougi brings the X-factor back into the game.

One of the most significant changes has been in the scrum, where highly rated SA Schools captain Pierre Schoeman comes in at loosehead in the place of Dean Greyling and Van der Merwe replaces Werner Kruger. The scrums have been one of the places the Bulls need an improvement as they have given away too many penalties there.

“Marcel did good this week in the scrums and Dean (Greyling) had that shot to his leg, and was 50-50 to play this week, so I said it is time to give someone else a chance. Pierre Schoeman came back from injury and played well for the under-21s last weekend, so we will give him a bit of a run. We did try Werner against Griquas at loosehead but it isn’t his position. We’re going to go with Pierre Schoeman and I’m looking forward to seeing him play, he’s another 20-year old but we expect a lot from him,” Marais explained.

The other change sees Roelof Smit return to the starting side in the place of Jannes Kirsten.

The Bulls know the Cheetahs are a different side to the team they played in round one of the competition, but given their own momentum and pedigree, they will want a similar showing on their home ground to keep their unbeaten record intact.

Vodacom Blue Bulls: Warrick Gelant, Travis Ismaiel, Dries Swanepoel, Burger Odendaal, Jamba Ulengo, Tian Schoeman, Francois Hougaard,Arno Botha, Roelof Smit, Lappies Labuschagne (c), Marvin Orie, Jacques du Plessis, Marcel van der Merwe, Bandise Maku, Pierre Schoeman. 
Replacements: Jaco Visagie, Dayan van der Westhuizen, RG Snyman, Jannes Kirsten, Ivan van Zyl, Louis Fouche, Jan Serfontein.

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
02 Sept 2015, 23:06
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02 Sept 2015, 23:06#4
Moron  
You would not need to read anything that does not fit your argument and contain FACTS you cannot argue against without providing recent FACTS to support your out-dated rubbish.
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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
03 Sept 2015, 00:07
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03 Sept 2015, 00:07#5
Perv you wouldn't know a fact if it slithered down your third double chin onto your boobs.  
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
03 Sept 2015, 00:23
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03 Sept 2015, 00:23#6
 Moffie
You would not know facts because you are  Meyer bootlicker and with him the only solution is to drag up lies and then try and convince others that they are truths.
You cannot deny what is written above and what damage was done to the Bulls by the Ludeke-Matfield fraternity and also the fact that Meyer is even worse in selection of players than his alter ego Ludeke is.  
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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
03 Sept 2015, 00:47
#7
03 Sept 2015, 00:47#7

Oh sure like the damage that was done to the Sharks by Jake and the great things they were going to do in 2015 S15? Same old story.

 

 

You drones just keep declaring victory before the contest has even started. Let me be precise, even winning the CC is no guarantee of anything with the Bok squad missing.

 

How many more lurid headlines are you going to try before the embarrasment finally shuts you up? You can't win Tokkie, you simply dont have the smarts.

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
03 Sept 2015, 00:58
#8
03 Sept 2015, 00:58#8
 Mozart
We will continue this discussion in less than 2 months time.   Then we will see who were correct and who were talking cra p.  
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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
03 Sept 2015, 05:10
#9
03 Sept 2015, 05:10#9
I would seriously suggest then that you stop talking "carp".  
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
03 Sept 2015, 06:07
#10
03 Sept 2015, 06:07#10
 Typing error corrected thank you.
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