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Mozart's Rugby Logic

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CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
26 Nov 2014, 05:10
#1
26 Nov 2014, 05:10#1

It is always interesting to unertand how Mozart's Logic works in rugby.      Now lets get this one straight  by quoting a few examples:-


Example 1


Player NZ gets the ball and start running at the defense in what is normally a backline attacing move - so the following is the defensive sequence:-


*  PLayer A rushed out of the defensive line creating a gap in the said line and is stepped;


*   Player B makes a feeble unsuccessful tackling effort and player NZ went past him with ease; and


*   Player C missed his attempted tackle


allowing player NZ to score a try.


Normally logical people would say all three defenders buggered up - so all three has to be partly responsibe for a poor defensive effort.   However - Mozart's Logic works differently.   He likes players A and B and dislikes player C - so the blame is entirely shifted to player C.   


Example 2


There is a breakdown ball rcovery \a bout 5 metrs out and Player Arg gets the ball and charged straight at a rgeww neter gap between two defenders A and B.   Neither player A and Player B makes any attempt to tackle Player Arg.   The situation is that player  Arg passed player A by going outside of him by just over a meter and insideof B by 2 meters.


Normally logical people would say both defenders buggered up - so both has to be partly responsibe for a poor defensive effort.   However - Mozart's Logic works differently.   He likes player A  and dislikes player B - so the blame is entirely shifted to player B. 


Example 3


Team NZ is attackinng and in the 22 of team S where a tackle breakdown is taking place seconds before halftime - tem B made a huge effort and effect a turnover in possession.   Now followed the following sequence of events:-


*   Player A gets the ball instead of making the expected relieving kick - passed the ball to player B;


*    Player B made an off-load to player C;


*   Player C is in a jam.   He is covered by 2 defenders and tackled about 5 meters  outside Team A's 22.


There is no ball protection and playerC has two choices - hang onto the ball and take the danger of a penalty or even yellow card or do the legal thing and allow the one defender to  make a turnover in possession.   


Normally logical people would say player A should have realized that if he kicked the ball out of play halftime would be called and he should make sure the ball is kicked out of play.   However - Mozart's Logic works differently.   He likes players A and B and dislikes player C - so the blame is entirely shifted to player C.   


Example 4


Team S is defending and has one player benched - the time of the ebnching is up and the player is expecting to return to the field to make sure Team S has a full team for the last 3 minutes of te game.   Team A gets a penalty inside their 22 and all Player A has to do is to kick the ball out of touch allowing for the ebnched player to return to the field and having aline-outon own throw.   Player A missed to find touch and a sequence of plays following quickly and team Au scored a try thuis wiinningthe game for Team Au.


Normally logical people would say player A is entirely to blame for the whole problem since all he had to do was to find touch  - get the 15th player back from the ebcnh and the line-out won which effectively have won the gae for Team S.   However - Mozart's Logic works differently.   He likes player A so the team as a whole gets the blame for poor defense and PlayerA is exconnerated.   


 Now in another game there is a sequal.    Team S gets a penalty 10 meters inside the opposition half and its captain decides on a corner kick.   Player B is asked to kick for the corener - but the ball went to touch behind the goal line.   


 Normally logical people would say both A and B fouled up - but they would realize the consequences and realized also that player A made a sfatal and very serious mistake - while player B's mistake has vastly lesser consequences.   Both players A and B buggered up - so both should be responsible for the consequences what happened subsequently.   Logical people would also relaize that Player A's fault was vastly more serious than the one made by Player B.    However - Mozart's Logic works differently.   He likes player A and dislikes player B - so the impact of the mistakes is ignored and while excuses is found for Player A - player B is blamed for making a mistake.


SUMMARY


Controversial occurrences  happens in every match and members have to tread carefully when it coes th Mozart's Logic.    His decriptions of occurrences will be made in such a way that the players he dislikes will get books written about their mistakes and poor play ,  while the problems caused by other players  he favours involved in the incident or consequence of the incident are ignored - normally not even mentioned or if mentioned a string of excuses - mythical or pentirely imabinary - are added to it.


THE MORAL OF THE STORY IS IF MOZART DESCRIBES AN INCIDENT THAT HAPPENED ON THE FIELD OF PLAY - BE CAREFUL AND SEE FIRST WHETHER A PLAYER HE LIKES IS INVOLVED OR NOT.   HE IS IN TEH CASE OF A PLAYER HE LIKES WHO FOULED UP LIKELY TO DESCRIBE TE INCIDENT AND CONSEQUENCES IN A DECEITFUUL WAY TO ALLOW FOR THE PROTECTION OF THE IMAGE OF ANY PLAYER HE LIKES.   THE SAME APPLIES TO PLAYERS THAT HE DISLIKES.   HE IS BOUND TO MAGNIFY THEIR PERCEIVED MISTAKES IN A MANNER WHICHIS BEYONG NORMAL LOGIC.   ONE PENALTY IN A MACTCH IS TUNED INTO "PENALTIES"  - ONE MISSED TACKLE IN A GAME IS TURNED INTO "MISSED TACKLES"



sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,293 posts
26 Nov 2014, 05:15
#2
26 Nov 2014, 05:15#2

Clevermike's Rugby Logic 
November 26, 2014, 05:10:03

It is always interesting to unertand how Clevermike's Logic works in rugby.      Now lets get this one straight  by quoting a few examples:-

 

Example 1

 

Player NZ gets the ball and start running at the defense in what is normally a backline attacing move - so the following is the defensive sequence:-

 

*  PLayer A rushed out of the defensive line creating a gap in the said line and is stepped;

 

*   Player B makes a feeble unsuccessful tackling effort and player NZ went past him with ease; and

 

*   Player C missed his attempted tackle

 

allowing player NZ to score a try.

 

Normally logical people would say all three defenders buggered up - so all three has to be partly responsibe for a poor defensive effort.  However - Clevermike's Logic works differently.   He likes players A and B and dislikes player C - so the blame is entirely shifted to player C.   

 

Example 2

 

There is a breakdown ball rcovery \a bout 5 metrs out and Player Arg gets the ball and charged straight at a rgeww neter gap between two defenders A and B.   Neither player A and Player B makes any attempt to tackle Player Arg.   The situation is that player  Arg passed player A by going outside of him by just over a meter and insideof B by 2 meters.

 

Normally logical people would say both defenders buggered up - so both has to be partly responsibe for a poor defensive effort.   However - Clevermike's Logic works differently.   He likes player A  and dislikes player B - so the blame is entirely shifted to player B. 

 

Example 3

 

Team NZ is attackinng and in the 22 of team S where a tackle breakdown is taking place seconds before halftime - tem B made a huge effort and effect a turnover in possession.   Now followed the following sequence of events:-

 

*   Player A gets the ball instead of making the expected relieving kick - passed the ball to player B;

 

*    Player B made an off-load to player C;

 

*   Player C is in a jam.   He is covered by 2 defenders and tackled about 5 meters  outside Team A's 22.

 

There is no ball protection and playerC has two choices - hang onto the ball and take the danger of a penalty or even yellow card or do the legal thing and allow the one defender to  make a turnover in possession.   

 

Normally logical people would say player A should have realized that if he kicked the ball out of play halftime would be called and he should make sure the ball is kicked out of play.   However - Clevermike's Logic works differently.   He likes players A and B and dislikes player C - so the blame is entirely shifted to player C.   

 

Example 4

 

Team S is defending and has one player benched - the time of the ebnching is up and the player is expecting to return to the field to make sure Team S has a full team for the last 3 minutes of te game.   Team A gets a penalty inside their 22 and all Player A has to do is to kick the ball out of touch allowing for the ebnched player to return to the field and having aline-outon own throw.   Player A missed to find touch and a sequence of plays following quickly and team Au scored a try thuis wiinningthe game for Team Au.

 

Normally logical people would say player A is entirely to blame for the whole problem since all he had to do was to find touch  - get the 15th player back from the ebcnh and the line-out won which effectively have won the gae for Team S.   However - Clevermike's Logic works differently.   He likes player A so the team as a whole gets the blame for poor defense and PlayerA is exconnerated.   

 

 Now in another game there is a sequal.    Team S gets a penalty 10 meters inside the opposition half and its captain decides on a corner kick.   Player B is asked to kick for the corener - but the ball went to touch behind the goal line.   

 

 Normally logical people would say both A and B fouled up - but they would realize the consequences and realized also that player A made a sfatal and very serious mistake - while player B's mistake has vastly lesser consequences.   Both players A and B buggered up - so both should be responsible for the consequences what happened subsequently.   Logical people would also relaize that Player A's fault was vastly more serious than the one made by Player B.    However - Clevermike's Logic works differently.   He likes player A and dislikes player B - so the impact of the mistakes is ignored and while excuses is found for Player A - player B is blamed for making a mistake.

 

SUMMARY

 

Controversial occurrences  happens in every match and members have to tread carefully when it coes th Clevermike's Logic.    His decriptions of occurrences will be made in such a way that the players he dislikes will get books written about their mistakes and poor play ,  while the problems caused by other players  he favours involved in the incident or consequence of the incident are ignored - normally not even mentioned or if mentioned a string of excuses - mythical or pentirely imabinary - are added to it.

 

THE MORAL OF THE STORY IS IF CLEVERMIKE DESCRIBES AN INCIDENT THAT HAPPENED ON THE FIELD OF PLAY - BE CAREFUL AND SEE FIRST WHETHER A PLAYER HE LIKES IS INVOLVED OR NOT.   HE IS IN TEH CASE OF A PLAYER HE LIKES WHO FOULED UP LIKELY TO DESCRIBE TE INCIDENT AND CONSEQUENCES IN A DECEITFUUL WAY TO ALLOW FOR THE PROTECTION OF THE IMAGE OF ANY PLAYER HE LIKES.   THE SAME APPLIES TO PLAYERS THAT HE DISLIKES.   HE IS BOUND TO MAGNIFY THEIR PERCEIVED MISTAKES IN A MANNER WHICHIS BEYONG NORMAL LOGIC.   ONE PENALTY IN A MACTCH IS TUNED INTO "PENALTIES"  - ONE MISSED TACKLE IN A GAME IS TURNED INTO "MISSED TACKLES"

 

CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
26 Nov 2014, 05:21
#3
26 Nov 2014, 05:21#3
 Sharkbok
If you want to quote me - make sure of your facts and not make a complete asshole of yourself.   I expect more form you than the above distortions.   
sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,293 posts
26 Nov 2014, 05:38
#4
26 Nov 2014, 05:38#4
 it is a joke in good humour!!!
CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
26 Nov 2014, 05:42
#5
26 Nov 2014, 05:42#5
 
MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
26 Nov 2014, 06:02
#6
26 Nov 2014, 06:02#6
Well OOm your logic is even more remarkable. You don't like Player J .....so you claim he had a bad match against Oz....even though he was not playing in that match. Some powerful juju hey?  
CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
26 Nov 2014, 06:07
#7
26 Nov 2014, 06:07#7
 Back to an ancient case where i admitted I made a mistakein referrring to a match in 2008 -  I admit when I make a mistake in that one - s o what else can you say about other instances.     
MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
26 Nov 2014, 06:54
#8
26 Nov 2014, 06:54#8
Ah so you admit it, well it's that time again.....game, set and match, talk about leading with your chin. 
BE
Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
26 Nov 2014, 07:02
#9
26 Nov 2014, 07:02#9
 We need wee jamesie to move this thread to the created gossip section and thereafter to delete some of the posts and thereafter to lock the thread to prevent further posts. That I am sure would improve the quality of the board material . HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA
JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
26 Nov 2014, 07:55
#10
26 Nov 2014, 07:55#10
Beeno: you are logged into ruckersforum not kamp SS, Jamesie isn't on our site, or  is he? 
Also, please make sure you keep your multiple IDs straight, e.g. Storming Ed, etc.

CE
CeradynePro9,374 posts
26 Nov 2014, 11:24
#11
26 Nov 2014, 11:24#11
 @JW, you can a dd his newest alias, Rugbyboss, to the list.
CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
26 Nov 2014, 11:41
#12
26 Nov 2014, 11:41#12
 Mozart
The guy who change topics he moment he is in a corner - he has made numerous statements about the various players involved and quoted examples mentioned time and time again.   He cannot rebutt whatwas written about his Logic - which in essense consistof his personal likes and dislikes of players far removed form actual rugby performances.      
I admitted I did not have the facts of a match played in 2008 about Jacobs playing - but then what he alleges happening in matches is not in 2008 - but continuous and affecting present players.   He constantly go for what he perceves as negatives in a player's performance if the player is in his dislike category - and most younger players are - but would never mention a single good thing done by the players concerned.     
So when he expresses an opinion on players - beware the opinion would be based on prejudice and the incidents referred to comprehensively distorted to fit his argument.    
MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
26 Nov 2014, 16:23
#13
26 Nov 2014, 16:23#13
 You admitted.....waaaaaaaaaahahahaha. What choice did you have OOm? It was there in black and white....undeniable.
Look let me help. Every night you write a long diatribe about how terrible my judgement is. I fully support your right to do that. But I have no obligation to take it seriously. So I treat you as a joke, which is what you are mostly. A silly old coot
Persist and the same pattern will continue. You wil lose and then complain because I'm not playing by your rules.
CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
26 Nov 2014, 16:28
#14
26 Nov 2014, 16:28#14
 This does not say anything about his total lack of integrity and his total ignorance about ruby - coupled with his serious prejudice that removes even the remotest of common sense as to rugby issues.   
This thread had a very sound motive - and that is to have on reocrd every time Mozart made unfounded allegations on players - the thread is there to remind us of his total bias and his lack of understanding of the game of rugby.   
The thread will e used constantly in future whenever Mozart comes upp wiith his standard prejudiced abd biased BS.
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