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Mozart said the younger players were useless - but what did Meyer say

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
17 Aug 2014, 20:46
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17 Aug 2014, 20:46#1

The following from News 24:-


"Pretoria - South Africa coach Heyneke Meyer hailed newcomers Handre Pollard and Lood de Jager after starting their Rugby Championship campaign on Saturday with a laboured 13-6 home win over Argentina.

As it happened: Boks v Pumas

It was a Test the Springboks were expected to win convincingly, but monsoon-like conditions put paid to any hopes of a try fest at Loftus Versfeld in Pretoria.

The result gave South Africa an early lead in the southern hemisphere championship with four points, two more than Australia and title-holders New Zealand, who drew 12-12 in Sydney.

Argentina collected a losing bonus point and are relishing the chance to tackle the Springboks again next weekend in Salta.

Bulls flyhalf Pollard and Cheetahs lock De Jager debuted in a 55-6 Port Elizabeth romp over Scotland two months ago.

And Meyer liked what he saw when they got a second chance to stake claims for places in the 2015 Rugby World Cup squad.

"We had a 20-year-old (Pollard) running play at flyhalf and a 21-year-old (De Jager) calling the lineouts and they did very well," said the coach.

"New centre Damian de Allende was another to show the character I expected. A lot of the guys in the team today are 23 years or younger."

Meyer was unconcerned about the close call against a nation they humiliated 73-13 in the corresponding fixture last year.

"I will be happy to keep on winning - even if it is by one point in every match. That is what rugby is all about," stressed the former Bulls handler.

He had hoped for a running game to start the Championship season, but torrential rain and 15 stubborn Pumas put paid to that.

"Argentina are not a continuity team - they are a contesting team. It is not always easy to get a flow to your match.

"We played well for 30 minutes, but did not get the points we deserved and that affected us.

"Argentina had a better kicking game than us, but luckily Willie le Roux was excellent."

Flank Francois Louw was the official man of the match, but Le Roux must have been a close contender after a number of superb catches off high kicks.

Argentina have yet to win in 13 Championship outings since a 2012 debut, but hooker and new skipper Agustin Creevy believes history could be created in Salta next Saturday.

"Our people will be backing us and I am hopeful after a good showing in Pretoria. I am pleased with the performance, but sad that we lost.

"The media often praise our forwards, but the backs also did a superb job against the Springboks.

"When South Africa scored an early try I called the team together and we vowed there would not be a repeat of last year when we conceded nine tries."

Coach Daniel Hourcade, who replaced Santiago Phelan after the six-loss 2013 Championship campaign, said he was both proud and sad.

"After a week of sun, the last thing we expected on match day was torrential rain. The team made me so proud, but we desperately wanted to win."

Golden Lions No 8 and skipper Warren Whiteley will replace injured flank Willem Alberts in the Springboks squad that leaves Johannesburg on Sunday for Buenos Aires."


When I sad his assessments were crap - he was arguing that I was wrong.  Now who were wrong in this cas e? 

sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,294 posts
17 Aug 2014, 20:53
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17 Aug 2014, 20:53#2
"We had a 20-year-old (Pollard) running play at flyhalf and a 21-year-old (De Jager) calling the lineouts and they did very well," said the coach.
The lineouts were a disaster and Pollard had a poor debut. The scrums were also a joke, but the props should get most of the blame for that.
That is the first time in ages that the Boks have been totally outplayed at the set piece
However the players just need to forget about this match as they are not going to be playing in hail storm conditions like this again anytime soon. Nearly everyone was crap. 
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PakieCaptain17,321 posts
17 Aug 2014, 23:49
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17 Aug 2014, 23:49#3
Of course the coach won't trash his players, especially the young ones, in public. And rightly so.
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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
18 Aug 2014, 01:46
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18 Aug 2014, 01:46#4
 Standard comments from HM. But if he really believed this I would be worried.
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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
18 Aug 2014, 03:48
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18 Aug 2014, 03:48#5
 Ah so Meyer was just bullshitting when he along with the rest of us concluded that in the circumstances pollard, De allende and lood were no better or worse than the rest of the experienced boks, in fact lood was better than bakkies, pollard better than morne and De allende was better than Jean - it was marginal but they were still better
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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
18 Aug 2014, 04:39
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18 Aug 2014, 04:39#6
The rest of us....you mean yourself and your leader OOm? It certainly must be a novel feeling for Mike to have a lackey.  
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
18 Aug 2014, 06:09
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18 Aug 2014, 06:09#7
 Mozxrt
You lot are a unique bunch of losers.   After the Scottish test last year Meyer expressed strong support for Bakkies Botha in a similar statement.    When Bakkies were criticized for what he produced - you lot wrote that Meyer said Bakkies was really so good and the people querying  Bakkies performance are wrong - because Meyer said so.
Now that Meyer said the youngsters did well enough - now Meyer is covering for them and he did not really mean what he said.  What a load of crap.   When you like what Meyer said - he is t be believed, when what he said does not support your crap - he is not to be believed.  I say it again - what a loser!!!!!!!!!! .  
    
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