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Started by Just_win37 REPLIES392 VIEWS· 21 Sept 2014, 20:56
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JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
21 Sept 2014, 20:56
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21 Sept 2014, 20:56#1

Moz: I just visited two of Mozart's homes in Austria. Apparently he was a week wee chap physically & was childish (never seemed to mature), lol this according to his sister, maybe you should change your nick to Beethoven   More powerful & imposing personality & physique. He never did listen much

RO
RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
21 Sept 2014, 21:15
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21 Sept 2014, 21:15#2
No, if Mozart was a weak and childish individual - and we know he was also a simpering fop - then Moffie has chosen well.
I just wonder if Wofgang Amadeus lied every time he opened his mouth . . . if he did then it's a perfect fit!  
SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
21 Sept 2014, 21:42
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21 Sept 2014, 21:42#3
 Agreed Rooi Moffie has chosen well......very fitting 
JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
21 Sept 2014, 21:45
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21 Sept 2014, 21:45#4
 They didn't have "Mozarati's" back then but he earned lots of money but spent even more.
CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
21 Sept 2014, 22:56
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21 Sept 2014, 22:56#5
 JW
I would say that Beethoven may also be appropriate,  Beethoven went deaf as a result - I beleive of syphilis.  Moz is deaf when it comes to rugby - and sometimes I think blinded by prejudice as well. 
In the Schonbrunn Palace is a painting of Maria Theresa at the opera,  In one of the nack rows is Mozart when he was still a small boy.   The painting I really liked was one where Maria Theresa and her husband was posing.  His fingers are poined at her and hers at herself.  Now - Guess who was the Boss?   He was the Emporer - she was only his wide.  But she was Queen of Hungary and Grand Duches of Austria - yet she governed the country.     
MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
21 Sept 2014, 23:03
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21 Sept 2014, 23:03#6
Poor old RooiAAS still smarting because I blew him out of the water when he claimed I wasn't the first to call for Pollard as our long term Bok 10.
JW  Beethoven is superb, but a bit heavy handed. The elegant Mozart can achieve the same result with four violins. The Overture  to Don Giovanni, one of the worlds musical treasures was written in one evening. That's genius.
SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
21 Sept 2014, 23:25
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21 Sept 2014, 23:25#7
 My guess is Mozart could not play a single instrument.....there is little talent in stringing a few tunes to paper
BE
Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
22 Sept 2014, 00:02
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22 Sept 2014, 00:02#8
 Moz ou rooitwit is always smarting it's his natural condition.
MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
22 Sept 2014, 00:10
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22 Sept 2014, 00:10#9
 Dave you horribly ignorant Philistine read this:

"Young Wolfgang started playing the harpsichord at the age of three. He composedhis own piano pieces at five, his first symphonies when he reached nine and whole operas at the age of 12. Wolfgang never went to school. His father taught himlanguages , geography and history, maths and, of course, music."

He was a prodigy on the piano, and a very good violin player as well. So your guess that he couldnt play an instrument is hopelessly wrong.
JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
22 Sept 2014, 00:19
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22 Sept 2014, 00:19#10
Beethoven fits more the Boks style of play than Mozart IMO Wagner could be a good fit also . 
ABs are more like Led Zeppelin or Jimi Hendrix. 
SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
22 Sept 2014, 00:22
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22 Sept 2014, 00:22#11
 Shows how much interest I take in t hat shit
sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,294 posts
22 Sept 2014, 00:28
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22 Sept 2014, 00:28#12
 


CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
22 Sept 2014, 00:28
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22 Sept 2014, 00:28#13
 Mozart
Nobody argues about the fact that Mozart was a prodigy and his music is of the ebst ever composed.   However, he was a protege of the Austrian emperor - or better still maria Theresa and all indications were that he wa sin fact an immature person.   Musically brilliant - but otherwise not so.   
sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,294 posts
22 Sept 2014, 00:31
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22 Sept 2014, 00:31#14
 
MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
22 Sept 2014, 00:51
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22 Sept 2014, 00:51#15
Poor old Dave, the great complex music of the 18th century is way above his intellectual ceiling.
SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
22 Sept 2014, 01:03
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22 Sept 2014, 01:03#16
Music has fuck all to do with intelligence it's about taste you ignorant old man. I don't listen to that old timer shit I listen to real music......give Kings of Leon a listen, beats the crap out of your funeral classics.
SH
ShezzaPro2,471 posts
22 Sept 2014, 01:16
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22 Sept 2014, 01:16#17
 Mozart get you're head out of your arse, Dave was the first person to call for higher honours for Pollard back in 2012 after the JWC. 
PL
PlumCaptain21,007 posts
22 Sept 2014, 01:20
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22 Sept 2014, 01:20#18
Honestly Mozart was a genius. Moz's comment about the the 4 violins = 100% spot on in my book. Obviously a subjective opinion though.
there is little talent in stringing a few tunes to paper. NO man Saff.ex!
The Black Keys Saffe.x! 
If you liked The Doors...and KOL then you'll love them. It's whiteboy's blues. 
BE
becsPro4,378 posts
22 Sept 2014, 01:27
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22 Sept 2014, 01:27#19
 He already likes them, Plum ! 
Mr S has a massive record collection......just not keen on Mozart  
MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
22 Sept 2014, 01:38
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22 Sept 2014, 01:38#20
Dave calls for higher honors for every junior Cheever.  But when things were real this year he called for Goosen, then for Lambie....Pollard was like his call for Willie ....very late and not convincing. You I assume remain locked in to Goosen....hahaha. 
CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
22 Sept 2014, 01:44
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22 Sept 2014, 01:44#21
 Dave 
It is not as easy as you say about stringing a few notes together nad creating a tune.   A syuymphony ochestra has a wide range of instruments and a score is to be written for each different instrument.   So to get the tunes required from each instrument correct is not as easy as it may sound.
I love all music which is tuneful - whether classical or modern.   The Beatles for isntance used snippets from classical music to create most of their songs and I canot see how anybody cannot love some of the famous classical music compositions.   The best song I have ever heard on any stage whatsoever by anybody was the Vienna Boys Choir singing the Blue  Danube.  Nothing could ever beat that one.
Mozart is correct about Mozart being a genius - but some of the music composed by other classical composers are also great.   
I adore ABBa, the Beatles, Neil  Diamond, Elvis Presley, Tom Jones and a host of 20th century singers, but am not really into the latest music - since it lacks tunes and that makes music a relaxing experience.  
Mind you in Durban there was a drinking hole where I had a flat.  I used to go there  on occassion with some of my friends.  They had all kinds of songs sung and even a skelton swinging around in the place - the drunker  you got - the better you joined in singing - Great Fun!!!
        
BE
becsPro4,378 posts
22 Sept 2014, 02:14
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22 Sept 2014, 02:14#22
 My Uncle trained as a musician in London.I think his favourite genre remains Jazz even though he has a wide variety of likes from Classical to Pop/Rock and plays every instrument. He actually specialises in the Trumpet....had to give up his other great love, Cricket, as a Schoolboy, because he could not risk being hit by a cricket ball in the mouth ! 
SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
22 Sept 2014, 02:16
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22 Sept 2014, 02:16#23
Wrong Moffie I don't call for all the junior players but I did shout loudly for Etzebeth,  Serfontein, Goosen, PSDT, Senatla to name a few.
Of the current crop I shouted loudest over Pollard, Esterhuizen, Jessie Kriel, Marx and du Toit........ is that the whole squad huh?
As for Pollard over Goosen.....nope have never made that call but have said there is little to choose between them and Lambie. 

SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
22 Sept 2014, 02:33
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22 Sept 2014, 02:33#24
 Yep Shezza spot on I made the Pollard call more than a year ago and shouted loudest for the likes of Etzebeth, Goosen, Serfontein, PSDT, Willemse, J.du Plessis and Senatla from the Baby Boks long before anyone knew them
Of the current crop my call has been Jessie Kriel,  Esterhuizen, Pollard, Marx and du Toit. ...is that every junior old man?
BO
BoklogicPro1,978 posts
22 Sept 2014, 15:42
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22 Sept 2014, 15:42#25
 Ha ha good one Shezza..Dave made the call so kudos to him..Say, what about the other 3500 juniors he has made that call on? Rohan Janse Van Rensburg and all the rest..
Dave makes a call on every young player you cake!!
SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
22 Sept 2014, 15:47
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22 Sept 2014, 15:47#26

I see Chicken's absence has made him no brighter.......geez why don't you just do us a favour and top yourself  

BO
BoklogicPro1,978 posts
22 Sept 2014, 16:04
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22 Sept 2014, 16:04#27
 Dave, I am just holding out to see some of your picks pull through for you then I shall seriously consider topping myself..Looks like I am here for the long haul...Pls Dave, do not mention the word bright in any sentence..You are the dumbest son of a slut on here! You just never learn!
SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
22 Sept 2014, 16:12
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22 Sept 2014, 16:12#28
Chicken what we have to love about you is that you see merit in lying through your teeth and are too stupid to realise what a prick it makes you look.......don't change......keep it up until you take that brave step......chances are you are too f...ing thick to even get that right  
RO
RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
22 Sept 2014, 16:35
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22 Sept 2014, 16:35#29
Have a look at this thread where the disgusting liar Moffie claims he "spotted Pollard's potential early in the S15" and my subsequent reply where I exposed his stinking lies.

Note also that the coward never had the guts to defend himself on that thread but rather slunk away pretending it hadn't happened.

The first mention we can find from Moffie regarding Pollard happened in late May (remember, he claimed "early in the S15" and this would have been just before the playoffs) where he said it was a "long shot" that Pollard might make the Bok bench one day.

The flyhalf that Moffie was actually punting at the time he claimed he was on Pollard was Fat Frans Steyn as you can see here (note that Moffie doesn't even mention Pollard on a discussion about possible Springbok flyhalves). Before that Moffie had jumped off the Pat Lambie bandwagon to jump on the Johan Goosen bandwagon . . . as you can see here.

The man is a shocking liar and looking at him accusing other of bandwagoning here shows what a stinking hypocrite he is as well.
BL
bluebokPro3,977 posts
22 Sept 2014, 16:49
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22 Sept 2014, 16:49#30
I am a musician, please note, NOT AN ARTIST!!! I can also play a bunch of instruments, and I can say one thing. Almost all good music has roots in classical music. Very little can be achieved in music without using the scales, progressions and patterns inherited from classical music.  
People may not like classical music , but they should appreciate that what they listen to is because of it.  
MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
22 Sept 2014, 17:09
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22 Sept 2014, 17:09#31
"We can find" .... hahaha. RooiAAS is employing an army trying to find references for moz on Pollard. Let me simplify it for you. In the first game I saw Pollard play, I made comment on his ability to cut the line. After seeing a bit more I consistently picked him as the flyhalf for the future.
My choice for this year was Frans, much maligned by many.....but when he was at 10 the Sharks had the most successful run of any team in the S15. My immediate back up was Morne.
As it transpires Pollard was even more developed than I thought and Frans has been lost through bureaucratic ineptitude. So Pollard is now the man.
It's not a big deal, but while others like RooiAAS were picking Goosen, Lambie, Boshoff, Potgieter  or hahaha Swiel.....I was solidly in the Pollard camp.
MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
22 Sept 2014, 17:15
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22 Sept 2014, 17:15#32
Bloo I think the South African aversion to classical music is partially a cultural thing....it was seen as pretentious and part of upper class " aansit". If folks just listened to the music and gave it a chance, my guess is they would find a new source of inspiration.  
BL
bluebokPro3,977 posts
22 Sept 2014, 17:30
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22 Sept 2014, 17:30#33
Moz, you are probably right. What people also don't seem to realise is how many different types of classical music there are. It is not just opera or orchestral. They have probably watched their favourite movies with goosebumps compliments of the classical soundtrack.   
MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
22 Sept 2014, 20:51
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22 Sept 2014, 20:51#34
Absolutely. My daughter writes big piano music that sounds like Movie Theme music. She has 3 CDs  out and does a few recitals a year. People like it, but even in this huge market it's hard to get traction. 
SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
23 Sept 2014, 00:10
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23 Sept 2014, 00:10#35
 Yip Moffie has always been pro useless Morne at 10 and had a big push for Frans out of position at 10.
Both poor, poor selections summing up Moffie 's selections in general. He never touted Pollard.
MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
23 Sept 2014, 01:08
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23 Sept 2014, 01:08#36
 May 4

Pollard, Small- Smith, Visser, Potgieter, NDungane and Visser have all made telling breaks.....the Bools centre pair continues to provide thin porridge.

mozart
 
Status: Hall Of Fame 
Posts: 8790RE: Springbok flyhalf
May 19, 2014, 19:38:45Lambie has shown us nothing at 10....Boshoff is this years Demitri.....Goosen had his best game on Saturday, but the Cheetahs still did better when Watts came on. Pollard is the future....Frans who just won the biggest game of the year is the best option to 

mozart
 
Status: Hall Of Fame 
Posts: 8790RE: Springbok flyhalf
May 19, 2014, 19:38:45Lambie has shown us nothing at 10....Boshoff is this years Demitri.....Goosen had his best game on Saturday, but the Cheetahs still did better when Watts came on. Pollard is the future....Frans who just won the biggest game of the year is the best option to Morne


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MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
23 Sept 2014, 01:20
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23 Sept 2014, 01:20#37
 Saffex
 
Status: Hall Of Fame 
Posts: 9345RE: Springbok flyhalf
May 20, 2014, 00:16:01Beenkop, stick to picking grapes.......Goosen walks the Bok 10 spot......I noted how much Goosen has muscled up........he needed to.......good on him.

Goosen to start, with Lambie on the bench........Frans to cover if need be.


MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
23 Sept 2014, 01:22
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23 Sept 2014, 01:22#38
See Dave ...even at the end of May, Pollard wasn't even worthy of a mention for you. You never rated him period...stop whining now.  
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