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MVP of the RC prediction

Started by Mozart30 REPLIES421 VIEWS· 10 Aug 2014, 17:30
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MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
10 Aug 2014, 17:30
#1
10 Aug 2014, 17:30#1

I suppose Read would be the concensus pick.....the best player in the team most pundits would pick to win. But setting team performance aside, who is likely to make the biggest personal contribution to the RC?

 

My pick would be Bismarck du Plessis. He has had a few weeks off to regain some zest and he is at the height of his powers as the best hooker in the game.

sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,294 posts
10 Aug 2014, 17:58
#2
10 Aug 2014, 17:58#2
Habana was epic in the last test scoring 2 tries in 5 minutes or so. Had he stayed on the pitch he probably would have equaled the record 3 tries against the All Blacks or beat it.  He has also had a decent rest with injury and it has been about a month since winning the european and France domestic cup .
Read has become a very good player. He was average when he started for a good few seasons, but he has really peaked into one of the best players in rugby. Probably the best forward in world rugby

CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
10 Aug 2014, 19:19
#3
10 Aug 2014, 19:19#3
 Mozart
Pick one player - that is a guess - but not brave enough to make a fantasy team selection - where you look at player sin specific positions.   I am not going to stick out my head and pick one player - but I would say probably Ben Smith  would have been my pick.    
MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
10 Aug 2014, 20:05
#4
10 Aug 2014, 20:05#4

You don't have to be brave to make a fool of yourself on the internet....OOM.

CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
10 Aug 2014, 20:19
#5
10 Aug 2014, 20:19#5
 You have to be brace and that is one thing you are not - A fool and coward rolled into one - that is our Mozart.
MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
11 Aug 2014, 06:52
#6
11 Aug 2014, 06:52#6
Why do I have to be "brace". Strikes me posting anonymously on the Internet requires no bravery at all. But I suppose if you are mentally a bit dof like you, it does require courage to expose your limited thought process. In that  light I suppose you were "brace"
3K
3ku1Pro2,580 posts
11 Aug 2014, 07:48
#7
11 Aug 2014, 07:48#7
 I woud pick Read, worlds best player IMO. But as none of the games have commenced yet, who knows! Ben Smith to I think. As for Mozart and Clevermike, take it outside
JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
11 Aug 2014, 11:19
#8
11 Aug 2014, 11:19#8

Bismarck is the world's best hooker but his chances of being the MVP are limited by his temperament (temper).

 

Reid, we will have to see if he has recovered from his concussion but I bet he has. They have bought him back slowly and this has given him some time for the niggles to heal. I would put my money on him. Ben Smith could have a shot at it, depends what position they play him.

 

Maybe Etzabeth if he ever gets back on the field. Hard for a lock to be spetacular but he may have a shot.

CL
ClaydogClub Pro691 posts
11 Aug 2014, 11:29
#9
11 Aug 2014, 11:29#9
For the Aussies Hooper will stand out. Read would be the obvious choice.
DE
DennyCaptain12,893 posts
11 Aug 2014, 13:20
#10
11 Aug 2014, 13:20#10
 Willie
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bluebokPro3,977 posts
11 Aug 2014, 13:34
#11
11 Aug 2014, 13:34#11
Depends how you look at it. If it is simply a player in comparison with his opposite number, Reid, Bizzie, Etzabeth are pretty solid bets, but if it is one players influence on a game overall, then it'll probably be a flyhalf that take the honers. 
SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
11 Aug 2014, 15:09
#12
11 Aug 2014, 15:09#12
Israel Folaou  
3K
3ku1Pro2,580 posts
11 Aug 2014, 15:31
#13
11 Aug 2014, 15:31#13
 Le Roux ha don't make me laugh, Folau is a tad overrated IMO.
SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
11 Aug 2014, 15:35
#14
11 Aug 2014, 15:35#14
Well your opinion sucks - Folau is an awesome player.......has more chance of making an impression than Willie who will be playing for an average Bok side so will spend most of his time defending  
BE
Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
11 Aug 2014, 16:12
#15
11 Aug 2014, 16:12#15
 Yes Denny it could be Willie. More attacking flair than Ben Smith and Folau. Willie will be playing in a Bok backline able to score tries. That sai d it does depend on who Meyer picks!!
Folau's problem is his low work rate - he is a serial loafer. I suspect he doesnt like hard tackles. Bissie and the boys must realise that. 
3 IQ please wipe the dribble off your chin. 
SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
11 Aug 2014, 16:24
#16
11 Aug 2014, 16:24#16
Bwhaaaahaaaa good one Beenkop.......of course the Bok backs are going to score tries with Pienaar at 9, Morne at 10 and Jean at 12..........bwhaaahaaaaaaa, geez you speak shit  
MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
11 Aug 2014, 20:35
#17
11 Aug 2014, 20:35#17
Of course any Oz tighthead who can scrum could change their fortunes.....and in that sense would be an MVP candidate.
MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
11 Aug 2014, 20:37
#18
11 Aug 2014, 20:37#18
Dave you will note the Boks scored 4 tries in their last RC outing against NZ...with Morne at 10 and Jean at 12. In fact Jean scored a brilliant try....one which Steppie could only dream about.  
sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,294 posts
11 Aug 2014, 20:52
#19
11 Aug 2014, 20:52#19
It seems more likely that Morne will be on the bench with Pollard at 10. Pollard must be the favourite as the starting 10 at the world cup. 
Pollard needs game time before the world cup, and the 4 nations is the best chance to get experience. Not just against the Minnows at home where the Bok forwards usually beat the opposition into submission. 
A Pollard/Jean axis should be good, much better than Serfontein who lacks pace and the ability to step.

Bambie will be the utlity back providing cover for fullback. Lambie has never been capable of getting a backline running. He is  a decent runner himself, but the ball rarely moves down the backline well when he is at 10. 
I doubt Meyer sees Morne as the ideal 10, but Lambie just becomes a Morne clone when he plays at 10. 
At least Morne occasionally throws some good passes and gets his backline running.
Goose unfortunately has just become an injury waiting to happen, and seems more interested in laying his nest egg in France. 
It was said in some of the media in zealand that Goosen was the next Carter, but now Carter is the next Goosen because he also gets injured all the time.
JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
11 Aug 2014, 20:54
#20
11 Aug 2014, 20:54#20
 Willie is still erratic so we still don't know what he will deliver. Players like Ben Smith, Etzebeth (when he is available), Reid are solid & reliable & can also be spectacular. They don't let their team down one week & then perform like stars the next.
MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
11 Aug 2014, 20:56
#21
11 Aug 2014, 20:56#21
Actually I think Goosen was more the next Quade Cooper, and we all know how well that worked out. Lambie is a fullback, he needs space ....now a backup to Willie. Pollard is the future as I said when I saw his first Bools outing. But the pressure kicking may be a bit much for him this year.....I suspect we will still see Morne starting in the key games.
SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
12 Aug 2014, 03:02
#22
12 Aug 2014, 03:02#22
 Yeah I remember the last test against nz where jj showed exactly what we needed at 13 for the boks
MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
12 Aug 2014, 04:32
#23
12 Aug 2014, 04:32#23
Hahahaha...just admit you were wrong.
CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
12 Aug 2014, 04:53
#24
12 Aug 2014, 04:53#24
 Mozart
In future becasye you are so bloody dim - I will address you as Your Dimness.   Your Dimness - Morne had a  disgusting performance at the Ellis Park test.   He may have been the flyhalf - but he was party to three tries being scored against the Springboks.   His defense was poor and his decision making worse.   
Your Dimness - whether you like it or not he Morne remains the Stade Francais Reject - a player his Club rates as their second  string flyhalf.   When will you realize that Morne Steyn is not the pivot required by the Springboks?   I know you are a slow rugby thinker - but one would have thought that by now even you would have realized that.


   
MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
12 Aug 2014, 06:05
#25
12 Aug 2014, 06:05#25
Geez OOm these bathroom breaks in the middle of the night are getting you all wound up.  
SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
12 Aug 2014, 12:10
#26
12 Aug 2014, 12:10#26

Wrong because our clueless coach has dropped JJ along with many of our other class youngsters and selected a bunch of has beens instead.......hmmmmmm, let me think about that one!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

I'm going to take great pleasure in telling you lot I told you so in a few weeks time

 

CL
CleanCutPro9,905 posts
12 Aug 2014, 12:35
#27
12 Aug 2014, 12:35#27
 
Speaking from experience, hey Faggot?

It's probably the only use you have for the soft cock of your ... to piss out of ... right?
MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
12 Aug 2014, 17:19
#28
12 Aug 2014, 17:19#28
So let me get this right Dave....you are going to get "pleasure" out of the Bok loss. The truth finally emerges.
SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
12 Aug 2014, 17:29
#29
12 Aug 2014, 17:29#29

No Moz, I am going to take pleasure in telling you how wrong you have been.......that has nothing to do with taking pleasure in a Bok loss...........the Boks will lose because Meyer has got his selections wrong and his tactics are equally poor

 

 

We will lose because our coach is selling us short on many levels.......he is not even close to the mark and that is going to be proved against Oz and NZ  

MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
12 Aug 2014, 17:35
#30
12 Aug 2014, 17:35#30
The problem you have Dave is....even if that happens, it doesn't prove a team of JJs, Marcel van der Merwes and Jantjieses would have done even as well. So you might as well support the Boks like any other Bok fan.
SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
12 Aug 2014, 17:52
#31
12 Aug 2014, 17:52#31

Well its quite obvious that players like JJ and Marcel would have been better additions to the side than the likes of Steenkamp, Morne and co.......it does not take a brain scientist to work that out......how on earth anyone could possibly conclude that Bakkies for instance is a better option than Willemse is beyond me.

 

 

The sooner we see the back of Meyer the better, its clear this guy is out of touch and taking Bok rugby backwards.

 

 

Some of his selections are alarmingly poor.......why anyone would think that the way forward was to invest in a bunch of 30 year olds is mind boggling.......its plain to see this fool has not moved on from the side he would have liked to have had as his Bok side 8 years ago......the guy is a joke  

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