My Bok team on 2019 form.

Marx, Kisthoff, Beast

Snyman, PSDT

JL DP, v d Walt, Duane(D DP would be my pick)

4, 5, 6, 7, 8...All big, all athletic, all great at set piece and all good in open play. 

I like V D Walt for Bok skipper. He's got that aura about him. Pipe dreams.

Before anyone complains about Eben's absence. Refer to the Stormers performance without him yesterday. He's quickly becoming to the Stormers what Strauss was to the Bulls. Bigger in name than in value and his team is better without him.

Backs

Faf, Pollard, Nkosi, Mapimpi, Willie, Esterhuizen, Dyanti. Have to choose between playing Dyanti or Mapimpi at 13.

I would also have a ood harsd look at the following:-

Wiese at lock and  Coetzee at 8.

My locks for the WC would be Etrzebeth, Snyman, De Jager and Wiese

My Loosies would be the following Du Preez twins,  Du Toit, Coetzee  and Kolisi.   ( Coetzee has played openside flank also).

Srummies- Faf,  Reinach and Jantjies

Flyhalfs  -  Pollard and Willemse.

Centers   -   De Allende, Kriel and Serfontein, Am

Outside backs  -   Mapimpi, Nkosi, Dyantyi, DH van der Merwe

Full backs -  Le Roux    

Please note the WC squad allows for the selection of 13 backline players of which 3 are scrummies,  The other players normally selected are 2 Flyhalf, 3 centers and 5 Outside backs.

That puts a question mark over the selection of Am and eliminate Eterhuizen - whose performances in tests and Super- Rugby has been highly questionable and was rarely good and often questionable. 

I know there will normally only be three locks in the squad - and I cannot see Erasmus ever leaving out De Jager and Etzebeth.   Wiese is making a huge claim on one  of the lock positions as he has also played as a loosie.   I think the lock picks would be Etzebeth, De Jager, Snyman and Wiese.

They need three hookers as well and chances are those will be Marx and Mbonambi and ????

Then there are 6 props to be picked -  probably Malherbe, Koch, Nyakane, Kitshoff, Beast, Schoeman

It is likely that Erasmus will take  along Vermeulen and Brits as well.   

....notsoclevermike who are the baby bok players to watch out for at the U20s WC in Argentina...

just nine days to go..

are there any stand outs you know of.. the Aussies are talking up the next Folau as of Fijian//Italian heritage Mark Nawaqanitawase...the Aussies reckon they have the most impressive U20s side in years...could be the team to beat as they have already beaten NZ pre tournament....although England are also traditionally strong ...looking forward to it..

Koch?

Mozart

What kind of explosiveness?   Popcorn popping up once every 20 minutes in games?      

Plums ... both Kitshoff and Beast are loosehead props.

You need a tighthead in the mix ... which will be ... ??

I never picked anyone - I mentioned often enough to see how players develop - especially when on franchise level they replace the duds you always supported and showed that they were actually initially better than your duds.  When that improvement is not maintained I normally leave them out of any further discussion.   

The problem is I look at performance  not at experience of players the way you do.   You never accepted ever that the older players get the more their performance decline.   That is why you supported a string of players going to the WC of 2015 that was in fact totally unusable.

I have learned one thing - if you support selection of a player look very carefully at the actual performances of the player and stay as far as humanly possible from supporting the non-performers.     The biggest joke ever on site is your system of player evaluation and of concoctions and even lies you come up with to support your selections.    

LM AO 

Kitshoff would be my loosehead.

Have a I gone of f my trolley - I do not think so - so I cannot stick with you.  

Himmell SB

What rugby are you watching or are you like Mozart a one incident -  no even one game - addict.?   The answer is simply that Jantjies under pressure is a total loss and he is under pressure even on Super Rugby level.

Bosch was lost at full back for the Sharks and he made some really poor decisions at flyhalf.    Cannot see him playing on test level ever.    

There's no surprises in my choice of lock pairing, its either Etzebeth and Botha or Snyman and Botha. I would have Bosch as the backup flyhalf and Willemse at inside centre, at least it brings speed to a sterile backline. You can't suck water out of stone and as things stand De Allende and Esterhuysen are stones.....slow, tactless stones who offer no hope.

Plums ... ok, so you either want Beast to play at 3 ... or you think it's best we don't put a tighthead in the mix.

Seems you know as little about rugby as you do Christianity, Space and Alienology.

Mozaert

Just another question - how the hell did you get to the following statement and hav e you got ANY proof to support it:-

"He went from a confident player with Eben holding his hand, to an uncertain chappie who wouldn't even call his own number in the lineouts."

Is that another lie invented by you?

Secondly - Etzebeth did not play this weekend and Wiese performed better in one game than Etzebeth did in all Super Rugby games combined this year - so was Wiese holding the hand of Du Toit this week?

Is it not time that you get over your childishly stupid  statements on rugby issues?    

CC

Why should Kitshoff not play at loosehead?

Beast, Marx, Kitshoff - That's our best front row right now. 

I might even prefer for Beast to start and Liza to take over towards the end of the first half. 

What part is confusing you?

Does nobody else here rate Van Der Walt from the Sharks? Guy is a warrior.

Common Plum. You have to be kidding me.

Kitshoff playing at 1 (loosehead) is not the problem.

Beast is a loosehead too. Surely you know that?

Where is your tighthead or do you seriously think that Beast would do well at 3?

There is a very big difference between the two.

Oh ... and no ... Beast is not our best loosehead ... not by a very long shot. He's a quota.

Wow ... did you look that up all yourself ... or did you get someone to help you, SharkShit?

Very impressive, I must say!!

haha

Well I guess this draws a line under my front row knowledge. 

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I'm sure Plum made a typo with Beast. He meant Trevor Nyakane as his tighthead.

ref:  "Beast, Marx, Kitshoff - That's our best front row right now".

Nyakane just needs to lean on his opponent and we'll get a right shoulder.

No discipline ... a food addict.

Not Goats material.

Would be nice if that were the case Bliks :(

Don't worry Plum, some think that 4 and 5 is also always interchangeable.

... yes and others think Abraham married his sister Abraham ...

His half-sister Abraham, who was also his niece and cousin. Beeno was the one who informed us about this.

That's funny, Mozart!

I don't think they're gross at all.

I am glad that you're happy with your narrow little shoulders and your weedy 8 inch arms.

That's not for me.

Being happy in your own skin is all that counts in the end.