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My Springbok Team vs Australia

Started by sharkbok9 REPLIES721 VIEWS· 17 Sept 2017, 15:43
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sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,258 posts
17 Sept 2017, 15:43
#1
17 Sept 2017, 15:43#1
1. Beast/ Kitshoff2. Marx/ ? (someone that can throw)3. Coenie/? (not sure Nykana is a tighthead)4. Eztebeth 5. PSDT  - Stick to lock, he is no loose forward.6. Kolisi  7. Mostert    (high work rate, extra lineout option, adds some Mongrel)
8. Kriel /        (When  Whitely is  he back, Kriel can also play 6 and 7 )
9.  Ross Cronje / Page/ A specialist scrumhalf. This must be the end of the Hougaard at 9.  Page is not the 2nd best, but who is? Why not have a flank at 9 instead of Hougaard.

10. Jantjies/ Pollard11. Skosan/ 12. Rohan/ Delande, Simpltein13. Harold Vorster (We need specialist centres, not utility backs). 

Or Harold Vorster at 12 for Defence, and Rohan at outside centre.
14. Anyone except Rhule (and can tackle).
15. Willie Roux SOS/ Andries Coetzee
CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
17 Sept 2017, 16:02
#2
17 Sept 2017, 16:02#2
 SB
Quite an interesting team.   Few comments as to follows:-
*   They must sent Pollard to play CC Rugby and get matchfit that way.   I would much rather see Willemse or Bosch on the bench.   Unless OPollard clean up his act - he should be forgotten about.
*   I would agree with Willie being called up - but would play him at 14 and Combrinck at 11.
*   I would sent an SOS to Marcell Coetzee to play at 8.   The reshuffling of the loosies is urgent.   I would play Coetzee at 8 and then consider the loosie situation further .  Not sure about Kriel's situation as to his injury.
*   I would replace De Jager with JD Schickerling as the bench lock.
*   Nyakane cannot scrum properly to save his life and Oosthuizen with his broken arm will not be available.   I would rather play Wilco Louw at 3 and start looking for another Tighthead,    Dreyer can perhaps be on the bench - but he is a low work rate player and pretty useless outside of scrumming.  
CL
CleanCutPro9,905 posts
17 Sept 2017, 16:26
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17 Sept 2017, 16:26#3
 
No SharkShit. No, no ... NO!!!

If we want to challenge our opponents we need to select a team that actually has talent to do so.

Your team is a mix of the same rubbish that got thumped yesterday. Why on earth would there be any change to what we saw them do downunder? A draw and a thumping.

Your quotas are ... Beast, Nyakane, Kolisi, Paige, Jantjies, Skosan, Rhule and De Allende. NONE OF THEM ARE WORTHY OF SELECTION. THEY ARE ALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL CHUMPS!!!!!!

It gets worse ... Mostert at 7 and Kriel at 8??????? WTF???

Are you serious??

Coenie isn't a tighthead. He's a penalty machine. Great in the tight loose but that's as far as it goes.

Pollard is an absolute carthorse. I was shocked to see just how far this man has fallen. He's not even CC material.

We have already seen what Le Roux offers. He's prone to utter stupidity. No thank you.

Andries Coetzee isn't the answer either. 

If that's your starting 15 ... I would hate to see what your bench looks like.



sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,258 posts
17 Sept 2017, 16:33
#4
17 Sept 2017, 16:33#4
As usual, Cleancut has an imaginary team that can play. The team has to be made of real players that currently play rugby.  For every player you criticise, you need to replace each with a better player. Not an imaginary  15 that are playing in the curry cup. 


sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,258 posts
17 Sept 2017, 16:36
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17 Sept 2017, 16:36#5
@Clevermike
Pollard should never have been in the squad in the first place. Form needs to be proven after each injury. 
Combrink can at least make some tackles- and a much better option. 
Has Marcell Coetzee 30 caps? I think he is just short. 
Snickering has a brain- so certainly an improvement from Lood.
Wilco Louw seem like the best option- as at least he has some physicality and can scrum adequately . 
CL
CleanCutPro9,905 posts
17 Sept 2017, 17:18
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17 Sept 2017, 17:18#6
 
Well Sharksh!t ... most CC teams would beat the Goats so why not select from them?

Van Rooyen, Dylan Smith and Tank Du Toit are all better looseheads than Beast. Beast is a tired hasbeen.

Nyakane is a loosehead. He may be able to pack down on the tighthead side but not at test level.  Are you kidding me? Against Crocket and Hanes? Please ... give me a break. Simply uselss.

Wilco Louw looks the real deal. It would be worth giving him a shot. Cannot do any worse than what I've seen so far on the tighthead. 

Kolisi is a blindside flank. Selecting him on the openside would result in the same rubbish we saw of him yesterday. A vanishing act. Come to think of it ... did he even play? Useless. We have better openside flanks in Kriel and Cloete. In fact I would much rather see Coetzee there than him.

Paige is an outright quota. He is only in the squad because of his skin colour. DON'T YOU KNOW THAT???????

Faff, Jano Vermaak and Shaun Venter are all much better options than him.

Jantjies is a failure at test level. He should be dumped immediately and never looked upon again. The best 10 we had in the SR was Lionel Cronje.

Skosan and Rhule are both poor at test level ... especially against the better players. Bring them in if you must against Korea but please get someone else against the top tier teams.

My choice would be Combrinck and Nkosi.

De Allende hasn't had a good season in 3 years. Till he shows a little form he's out. Besides he doesn't make very good decisions. His only talent is to crashball. He stingy and doesn't know how to pass the ball. He's not a team player.

Jesse Kriel is not a center. Never has been. He's also a poor defender. One cannot afford a bozo like that defending the 13 channel.

Vorster, Janse van Rensburg and possibly Am would be much better options for the Bok midfield. I also like the Bulls center. Forgot his name now.

Mostert stole the most ball in this years SR and you wanna make him a flank. Mostert has the highest work rate in the team and fully deserves his spot.

Kriel is an openside flank and has impressed at 7. He is a superstar ... but I would still rather have him at 6. I will however be willing to push him to 7 so that Cloete can come in at 6.

See how easy it is?

CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
17 Sept 2017, 17:58
#7
17 Sept 2017, 17:58#7
 CC 
We will also doffer on players - but I have indicated possible changes of the present squad.   However, whether we like it or not Toetsie would not make any substantial changes to the squad - he is too stupid to realize that he is not good enough to think.  
sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,258 posts
17 Sept 2017, 19:41
#8
17 Sept 2017, 19:41#8
@Imbecile(CC)

Lionel Cronje? What a joke, he was always been a bench player. He has had one decent season. Jantjies has played much better Super Rugby than the one season wonder journeyman Cronje. 
The squad does contain a few quotas- no need to keep reminding everyone.
Our loose forward options are very limited- and we also lack a bruiser at 7. Steph Dutoit was tried but he was a disaster as a loose forward.
Mostert might be able to play as flank like a Juan Smith- and in doing so it would bring Steph Dutoit onto the pitch. This could make the pack better.
Bringing in specialist centres is a no-brainer, as is replacing Rhule. 


The team you have chosen would have also got clobbered. 

CL
CleanCutPro9,905 posts
18 Sept 2017, 08:22
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18 Sept 2017, 08:22#9
 
Yes, Mike. I must agree. The heart and soul of any team is it's coach.

We've all seen what harm a poor coach brings. De Villiers was a clown better suited to the circus ... Meyer was old fashioned, completely out of touch with modern day rugby and loved the tired and the old ...

Toetie, as you so nicely refer to him, is probably the worst coach I have ever come across. He is a one man recking crew. I am convinced that he would take the mighty All Blacks, as they are now, and destroy them within 3 months.

He doesn't know anything about rugby. We have looseheads playing at tighthead, blindside flanks playing at 8th man and on the openside, we have locks playing as loosies , we have full backs playing at center ... and then to make things worse he selects proven chumps like HouGat, Jantjies and Cassiem into his squad ... the list just goes on and on.

He claims that we just don't have the players when things fail.

We have also seen what a good coach can do. We saw what Jones did with Japan ... what Ackerman did with the Lions.

What really cracks me up is that there are a lot of guys like SharkSh!t who rate him and his team. I've seen posts from SharkSh!t telling us what a good team it is.

LOL!!!

Even Stipid wanted to import South Sea Island people into our country awhile back.
 
It doesn't matter in the end who you select into the squad ... if "Toetie" happens to be the coach it's a lost cause.



WA
WardadPro6,663 posts
20 Sept 2017, 00:50
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20 Sept 2017, 00:50#10
 
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