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Namibian match big man

Started by Mozart22 REPLIES620 VIEWS· 29 Sept 2019, 06:38
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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
29 Sept 2019, 06:38
#1
29 Sept 2019, 06:38#1
It's amazing the Namibian match is being used to promote selection changes. Hell the guy locking against Lomp was 190 cms give or take. This was like playing a provincial B team. The only things worth looking at are the negatives....anything positive is suspect because of the low degree of difficulty. And in truth, there were negatives.....we constructed a few good tries but still looked inept with the ball much of the time. Jantjies was poor even against this opposition, that says a lot. And Kwagga surprisingly was a non entity. Also scrum dominance pretty much disappeared when Kitshoff and Thomas the Tank took over. Beyond that my only impression was how utterly selfish Lomp is. He called his number incessantly in the lineouts.....and he made sure, while the other tight forwards were securing ball....he was at first receiver. He ran the ball 15 times, more than any other lock in any other WC game......except Ryan today, who tied him. Why, when we needed to test backline options, did Lomp have to run 15 times against these obviously overmatched desert folk? And pass the ball 4 times. Brits by contrast ran 13 times and passed the ball 11 times. Lomp was obviously playing for Lomp, which isn't his worst mode.....that would be indolence once promoted back to starter. The hilariously selected Man of the Match.....Brits took that honour going away.....needs to consider his fellow players.
MO
MonsterBokClub Pro442 posts
29 Sept 2019, 07:22
#2
29 Sept 2019, 07:22#2

Agree,

Poor Nkosi didnt see any ball, I had hoped we'de see more of him. Did Kwagga even play??


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PlumCaptain21,007 posts
29 Sept 2019, 08:26
#3
29 Sept 2019, 08:26#3

I was also surprised to see how little ball Nkosi got.

It's a theme with the Boks. We rarely send the ball through the hands from end to end. 



CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
29 Sept 2019, 08:33
#4
29 Sept 2019, 08:33#4

Strzok

Nutcase - we already know your crazy prejudice against De Jager - is it really necessary to repeat it again?   I have stopped working out which SA player you are not prejudiced against, the list is a mile long and never changing,  

No 1 lie is " Hell the guy locking against Lomp was 190 cms give or take"   In this case your take is reducing the height if the player by circa 10 centimeters,   He is in fact taller than your favourite Franco Mostert who is 8 centimeters shorter than De Jager.   

De Jager put I an excellent performance and was the MOM and the only criticism you can come up with is he was shellfish in making line-out calls - what about the driving mauls he was a key player in,

It reminds me of the BS of "process tackles" you invented to cover up the tackling deficiencies of  your favourite players neglecting their defense function and malign players not find deficient in defense whom you dislike based on prejudiced stupidity on your part.     HAPPY LIARS AND DISTORTION DAY TO YOU,      

LMAO   


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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
29 Sept 2019, 16:59
#5
29 Sept 2019, 16:59#5
Lood showed how much better he is than Mostert. Kwagga has been hugely disappointing and I just don’t get why we never saw any trademark runs and steals from him given he was playing against a bunch of nobodies. Really strange that he just can’t seem to find his feet at test level. He is not even getting himself into position to make those runs or effect the steals
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
29 Sept 2019, 18:16
#6
29 Sept 2019, 18:16#6

Dave

I have always said that Kwagga is one of the best Sevens layers I have ever seen and expressed reservations about him playing in the 15 man game,    He needs space to operate in and it is not available to him in test of super rugby, 

In fact I wish he and Senatla goes back to play Sevens again.    

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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
29 Sept 2019, 18:26
#7
29 Sept 2019, 18:26#7
Disagree he showed during the Super series that he has plenty to offer in the 15’s game. He had an opportunity to show that against nobodies Namibia but he failed to and I just don’t understand why. Maybe he is being tasked with a different role to the one he carries out for the Lions. It does not look like he is being afforded the freedom to express himself
MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
29 Sept 2019, 20:31
#8
29 Sept 2019, 20:31#8
Lomp showed he is a big man when playing small men.
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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
29 Sept 2019, 20:34
#9
29 Sept 2019, 20:34#9
Nope Lood is always good. Always makes metres with ball in hand regardless of who he is playing against unlike the utterly useless Mostert who true to form achieved an all time record of 1m in 8 carries - case closed Moz..... there is no defending 1m in 8 carries - that is beyond embarrassing
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PakieCaptain17,321 posts
29 Sept 2019, 20:57
#10
29 Sept 2019, 20:57#10

Etzebeth in Brisbane 2018: 8 runs 1m / Ireland 2017: 9 runs 1m
Lood Wales 2017: 4 runs 0m

Can draw up many more examples. It happens to them all.








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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
29 Sept 2019, 20:58
#11
29 Sept 2019, 20:58#11

Let me help you through correcting your number 1 lie - always willing to help the ignorant 

Lood          2,06 meter

Opponent   2,02 meter

Mostert      1,98 meter

No wonder Mostert feel small in that environment/   

Enjoy  

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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
29 Sept 2019, 21:17
#12
29 Sept 2019, 21:17#12
It happens to useless Mostert every game unless he happens to find space and gets in a good few metres He is utterly useless
CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
29 Sept 2019, 21:39
#13
29 Sept 2019, 21:39#13

Comey

Just a suggestion to consider.   Strzok and I had an argument once about the average meters gained per carry of Albers - he said it was 2,2 meters, I said it was 1,8 meter.   For peace sake let us accept the 2,2 meters.   Alberts played in 43 tests in total and in those tests he - in total the meters gained was  less than a hundred meters gain as a Springbok.   Magnificent from him in those extra-strong   carries,   So back now to Labuschagne he made more in three tests and he is moving  fast to double that Alberts total carrying distance 

Mostert is not a strong ball carrier and he either foes straight down in tackles he is tackled back.           


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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
29 Sept 2019, 21:39
#14
29 Sept 2019, 21:39#14

Comey

Just a suggestion to consider.   Strzok and I had an argument once about the average meters gained per carry of Albers - he said it was 2,2 meters, I said it was 1,8 meter.   For peace sake let us accept the 2,2 meters.   Alberts played in 43 tests in total and in those tests he - in total the meters gained was  less than a hundred meters gain as a Springbok.   Magnificent from him in those extra-strong   carries,   So back now to Labuschagne he made more in three tests and he is moving  fast to double that Alberts total carrying distance 

Mostert is not a strong ball carrier and he either foes straight down in tackles he is tackled back.           


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PakieCaptain17,321 posts
29 Sept 2019, 22:35
#15
29 Sept 2019, 22:35#15

Alberts played in 43 tests in total and in those tests he - in total the meters gained was  less than a hundred meters gain as a Springbok.

Actually Alberts hit 100m gained within his first 8 tests, 6 of which he played from the bench.

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PakieCaptain17,321 posts
29 Sept 2019, 22:45
#16
29 Sept 2019, 22:45#16

Of course in matters such as this, one would be well served to remember that there is a big difference between 10 months and 3 weeks, ou Mike, and that is a fact. Just like there is a big difference between 8 tests and 43 tests. This is one of those evergreen truths that always serve the individual well on the path of life. And that is a fact too.

Duplicate.

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
29 Sept 2019, 23:28
#17
29 Sept 2019, 23:28#17

Coney 

Then the rest of his career must have been a total disaster,  Mozart provided the figure and I merely used it,   I have seen one test in 2012 when he made about 10 meters - for tee rest I cannot remember ever making even 2 meters over the gain line.

  

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PakieCaptain17,321 posts
30 Sept 2019, 07:15
#18
30 Sept 2019, 07:15#18

You are attempting to calculate the meters he made over 43 tests by multiplying his average meters per carry with his number of tests. Can you see the flaw?

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
30 Sept 2019, 08:20
#19
30 Sept 2019, 08:20#19

Whats the flaw Comey?  Alberts played in 43 tests and that is what I used in the calculation 0 headless chicken.  

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PakieCaptain17,321 posts
30 Sept 2019, 08:28
#20
30 Sept 2019, 08:28#20

Another classic clanger to preserve for posterity, ou Mike. You do line them up like a pro.

CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
30 Sept 2019, 08:54
#21
30 Sept 2019, 08:54#21

Comey

Strzok did a calculation - he added up the total territory gain through every test he played in and divided it by the number of carries he made.  That gave 2.2 meters per carry,   He was useless anyway - how many carries did he make per carry - never more than 4 - mostly less.  So mabe I should have said on average three runs per game - so lets make it 300 meters gainer in the tests played,   

In four tests played as captain in two - Labuschagne made 130 meters.   

So lets get it down to each test played and it is -

*   Alberts - 7 meters per carry per test played 

*   Labuschagne - 36 meters per test played

The four tests played by Labuschagne was against Fiji, South Africa,  Russia and Ireland and      he already made 150 meters - so average that out as indicated,  

Aside from non-protection of balls at breakdowns and never making a single possession turnover at breakdowns - as well as an atrocious tackle stats situation as a loosie - Alberts was a slow prop pretending to be a loosie and Labuschagne is indeed a loosie.           


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PakieCaptain17,321 posts
30 Sept 2019, 09:25
#22
30 Sept 2019, 09:25#22

so lets make it 300 meters gainer in the tests played

Why don't you go tally up his actual meters instead of this ridiculous way off the mark guessing? He hit 300m after 18 tests already.

But anyway, I'm sure you see the sense in comparing a retired Bok with a 43 test career with a Japan international with a 5 test career. I don't. Carry on.

CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
30 Sept 2019, 12:19
#23
30 Sept 2019, 12:19#23

Comey

Alberts should have been out of contention for Springbok selection by 2013 already and in 2014 - 2015 he did play three SR matches and ended up still in the Bok squad for the WC,   In the meantime the idiot whom we had as coach at the time should have brought Labuschagne on board.

That's the point showing that duds should never be test coaches.  I understand he is about to be fired by Stade Francais because of incompetence - vry likely he will be.    

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