National pride . . .

I think that we as humans have an innate need to feel some kind of loyalty or connection with our countrymen.

That's very hard if you're a South African.

For starters it's hard to have a sense of national pride in a country with a crumbling infrastructure and high levels of crime and poverty, never mind the incompetent, greedy and corrupt "government".

Also, for centuries a sense of communal national pride was also based on language . . . because until colonization, national boundaries were generally set between different languages. We have 11 official languages.

So how do those of us still living in this so-called rainbow nation of ours fulfil our need for national pride?

For me it's the Springboks. That's why I'm posting this in the rugby section. I'd say sport in general but apart from the very occasional Way de van Niekerk or Ernie Els or Jacques Kallis, we're pretty crap at sport and it's only rugby where we get a chance to ever call ourselves the best in the world . . . something that annoys the greedy BEE fatcats to the extent that they impose race-based quotas on our Springbok rugby team but that's another long story . . .

I don't often feel national pride. On the rare occasions that I do, it's because of the Springboks.

Go Bokke! I am so up for this RWC!

Go Bokke...I really hope our cricket boys can fight their way back to the top too...

Yikes what a post from ou Rooitwit. He used to favor quota picks for the Boks and said I was a Nazi for opposing this.

I guess also having posted with great Bok supporters like myself something has rubbed off on the Rooitwitterbug! Hahahahahahaha.

As long as we don't play Wales we can count on Rooitwit support. 

I think is hard to be very Patriotic when you are largely excluded from the job market. Still I wish South Africa every blessing and finding the best way forward. 

"He used to favor quota picks for the Boks and said I was a Nazi for opposing this."

Baboon-ou, you're either very stupid or very deceitful,

Personally I believe you're a combination of the two but you're definitely at least one or the other.

Still denying about what you said eh Rooitwit. I will never forget how outraged you were when your son didn't get a job you thought he should have got  because of affirmative action. I pointed out to you how you have been in favor of quotas in tbe Bok s. It was such a glaring contracduction.

As always reality taught the truth. Bwahahahahaha. 

Now please stop lying. 

Thanks. 

"Yes, being away from South Africa often feels like forgetting to be South African. The Springboks are a reminder of national pride."

What a good post Snark...I hope I never forget...this is an amazing place, but sadly I'm feeling driven away from my home...but it will always be part of me...

I think a lot of us are finding it difficult to have pride in our countries…..and some of us our teams ! 

But we still feel that unity through supporting our national teams. 

I shall be supporting you guys, as always, as well as my own shambles of a squad  

I got a transfer to the States pending a successful visa application...they're in NC, SC, GA and MT ATM, expanding rapidly...hoping to be there by the end of the year, but there's no guarantees...why I'm so pissed off at the ANC for p!$$ing off the Yanks of late.

Stay away from the Northern Hemisphere, all the major wars eminate from there. Stick with the the Southern Hemisphere. Not one country in Southern Hemisphere has nuclear arms...

Good luck Draad, we make great migrants

...I'd rather have our country fixxed...we've been through so much already...

It appears, very surprisingly that ou Rooitwit appreciates nationalism. That means a country with borders and it's own customs, values and indepence. 

But the confused blighter supports Globalist open borders demorats and Joe Biden. 

Beeno as always assisting to unravel Rooitwit profound confusions! 

A kind word of advice to Draad. 

Consider not going to the states until you know whether Trump gets elected. Currently the illigitimate Biden Regime is doing a good job of deliberately destroying the country. If the Demonrats cheat again and succeed in gaining the presidency etc the USA could descend into chaos.

Europe is not much better off. Fortunately the swing against Globalist parties continue and a number of Globalist rulers are set to get booted out. Trudeau, Macron and hopefully the Netherlands will have a populist government. 

The West is being deliberately destroyed by Globalist leaders. Unless they get the boot it's very risky living in the countries they control. 15 minute cities, CBDC, Social Credit scores, mandatory vaxx, control over you bank account, total surveillance etc etc. 

Moonrover could well be right about it being better in the Southern Hemisphere.

Plum sound take on the nonsense going on in SA. This country has the resources to thrive under good management. Here we may be dealing with sheer incompetence rather than deliberate sabotage?

.but it will always be part of me...

It's a part of all of us whether we live there or not although it's hard to hold onto that part as the inept, incompetent and corrupt ANC turns the country into a ghetto. 

Climate, culture and language being the inly factors guiding my choice...States closest culture and climate to my own...

Yes folks South Africa w as a fantastic climate and was a great country to work in, raise a family and live in for some.

But politics and power have been the wreck and ruin of the country going back to the late 1940's.

With power comes greed and corruption at all levels.

DbDraad I salute you as family and their future are more important than staying in the S---Hole that the country is at present.

Vasbyt and all will be well for you and your family.

I’m glad you love living here, Saffex

"State’s closest to your culture - how is that out of interest?"

Language, outdoor life...open space.

England even more so in culture, but England is full and the weather is a bit of problem.

"In a perfect world I would never have left my beloved SA but….."

Dave, as much as you must have enjoyed your recent trip down memory lane in "Makanda".... Grahamstown, I am sure you would have seen the horrible state of the infrastructure and the roads especially....

If a remember correctly, you travelled from the Eastern Cape through to the Western Cape.... there is a vast difference between the two ..... besides how different it must seem now, compared to when you were schooled here

They're all responsible. And it's their children and grandchildren that will starve.

Liberal capability to line up contradictions is unmatched.

Nope, all these dudes will not be responsible for what it is coming to them (they will be held accountable for the situation though)

They are unable to bring  on themselves the conditions of their demise.

If anything resembles with parasites in SA, that is white people, parasites who have been thriving at the expense of their african host.

That's very hard if you're a South African.

The OP is riddled with incorrect statements.

Nation as an idea is very new (three hundred years old or so)

People in the past did not know it and were attached to their lineage and their land. Nothing like the globalist scheme known as the white race.

Even if nationalism and liberalism have happened at the same time, liberals can not fail at distorting it.

There is no national pride to be found in a RWC event as it is an internationalist event. RCWs are for internationalist pride.

If nationalist pride is to be found, that is the domestic league.

In a domestic league, people from different locations come to rejoice and celebrate belonging to the same entity, the national entity/ comminity (wich is associated to a land)

In a RWC, people from different locations come to rejoice and celebrate belonging to the same entity, an international entity/community (that is attached to no land)

The most noticeable part of it: liberals made the observation by themselves, in 1850s, people supporting the WC event would have been labelled as internationalists while people supporting domestic leagues nationalists.

Hence by the way the love by white people for this kind of events as it may be received as a celebration of the white people, white people coming from the four corners of the earth and gathering at a white people event to rejoice over themselves.

Hence the massive problem coming from SA as SA is quota land.

Additional remarks that may be fun and specific to rugby.

Liberals enjoy playing semantic games.

So what name for that clique.

In the 1850s, it would have been straigthforward, internationalists as nations as a concept was a living accomplishment.

As nations are being diluted through concepts like the white race, as the concept is less and less relevant, same goes to internationalism, no nation, no internation.

Globalists could be one but well, rugby is a confidential game so it has nothing global.

Cosmopoliteans meets the same shortcoming.

So how to call them.

They have no name.

And in a liberal scheme of power, that is what people in power want the most, the inability of being named.

It hurts so bad...I get some real satisfaction everytime Trad's burning envy of Saffa rugby is exposed by his constant "geneul"...lekker, kry vir jou poephol!

Nah not New Zealand …..it’s like going back 50 years in time. The advantage the States has it’s a country of immigrants. People don’t expect you to change, they allow you to be who you are. If you’re an immigrant to the States and highly critical of some aspect of society that’s okay too. Try that in NZ or Oz.

Stupid sports…..ha ha ha ! 

My niece emigrated to NZ a good number of years ago now. She’s very happy there. It is a little backwards though !