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Nelspruit battle Meyer's high-point; Rugby 365

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JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
23 Jun 2014, 09:14
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23 Jun 2014, 09:14#1

Springbok coach Heyneke Meyer said that the 31-30 victory over Wales in Nelspruit on Saturday was his team's best since he started coaching them.

Meyer's charges needed a late penalty try to secure a dramatic win and deny Wales their first-ever Test victory over the Boks in South Africa.

Meyer said that the character his team showed to fight back in such tough circumstances was especially rewarding.

“This was my best win yet with the team as these are the matches you coach for. We were down and almost out, but the team showed massive character and resolve to pull this one through,” Meyer said afterwards.

The Springboks were behind for 78 minutes of the match and only took the lead when Mornè Steyn converted a penalty try conceded by Wales that gave the Springboks the one point win.

“Wins like this stand out as this is where one’s coaching philosophy and team selection are put under massive pressure. We had to dig very deep against a very good team. It is always difficult playing a tough team in consecutive weeks and we needed some luck out there today. Credit to Wales, who played very well,” Meyer admitted.

The support from the crowd was massive, he said.

“No one left their seats, even when we were still ten points behind with six minutes to play and looked likely to lose. That support lifted the team in those last minutes of the match and I want to salute the crowd,” Meyer said.

According to the coach, the big difference between last weekend’s win in Durban and this one was the way they used their chances to score.

“In Durban we took every opportunity we had and scored. This weekend we did not and nearly paid the price. There is not much between the top sides in the world and I am very happy with the final result. It was an awesome Test match,” he said.

Springbok captain, Victor Matfield, who became the most capped Springbok ever by taking the field in his 112th test match, blamed their poor exit play on the closeness of the result.

“Last week we could get out of our own half and apply pressure to Wales in their half. This time around we did not manage to do that and it gave them a lot of space to run at us.”

The character of the team shone through at the end, he felt.

“You need character to win the World Cup and we displayed some of that today. Our defence in last minutes to win the match was testimony of our will and mind set. We won this by coming back from behind. Last week we played well from the start, this time we had to come from behind. We were under massive pressure for most of the match, but came good when it counted.”

He praised the Welsh effort.

“With them leading, they had confidence and got stuck into us. We did not retaliate though, took the pressure well and responded at the right time.”

JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
23 Jun 2014, 09:18
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23 Jun 2014, 09:18#2
 Is this just "polishing a turd"? , lol
Yeah, they came back & won on a day when they were flat but let's face it they will have to play a string of games in the RWC & the excuse of being tired won't make you a winning side.
I don't think things are as bad as some bok supporters claim but this was a reality check.IMO Boks have had a lot of easy games so their record is inflated. A reminder never does any harm especially if you are still wining.
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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
23 Jun 2014, 11:01
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23 Jun 2014, 11:01#3
Confused again JW!! Fortunately Beeno is here to help.
Being tired is not an excuse it's a fact. The reason for this is poor player management and not putting the Boks first - I make no excuse for this rank stupidity and condemn it utterly!Now can you spot the difference JW. Are you getting a glimmer! Are you using those big ears of yours? hahahahahhahaha
I agree all is not lost if Meyer gets back on tack and his provincial counterparts come to the party. Boks need Sharks to loose top 6 spot in Super 15 Rugby comp. white wants to win it! Never the twain shall meet.
Frankly watching these SARFU buffoons running SA Rugby year after year is tiresome. Best one just laughs at their follies!!! I make no excuses for the twits!!! Just in case you are wonderin g and wandering off course again JW!
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
23 Jun 2014, 11:27
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23 Jun 2014, 11:27#4
Beeno
Meyer must try and forget about players that he used to coach at the Blue Bulls and start playing performing players.  He must realize that the players are way past it and select performing players.
We did well enough last year - bar defensive weaknesses - and then Meyer panicked and start calling up his geriatrics - with questionable results.   There can be no justification for the return of players like Matfield and Bakkies - and no reason for retention of players like Steenkamp and Morne Steyn.  The other real weakness in the team is the limited and non-productive Alberts.      

We have more than enough adequate players to replace those players and if Meyer persist with them - the team will suffer this year and go backwards in the RC.
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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
23 Jun 2014, 11:45
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23 Jun 2014, 11:45#5
 Mike I think some of these older players must go. Some can contunue like Jean and Habana. Others may have a back up role - eg Steenkamp.For me the jury is still out re Burger. Rubgy 365 gave him a very good rating and he did improve as the game went on.Meyer however should get rid of matifiled. Bakkies would be okay if we needed him but we have so many exciting young locks around so why persevere.My big concern is that victor has fooled Meyer again. 
As to JP I feel he is doing well at centre as his Rugby 365 rating confirmed (no missed tackles). We need a 7 and a dynamic scrummie. Reinach with his extreme pace could be great off the bench. Play him against Scotland. I am prepared to risk Pollard. I think he is a toughieGood to see Jan making the step up. JJ must not be forgotten as he will make a very good wing.So many things Meyer could have tried in the three Bok matches to date. Time has been lost and unfortunately because of the win against Wales I fear lessons are being ignored.We shall see how the test against Sotland goes but more importantly what Meyer does in the RC and how that goes. If we get things right we should beat the wee abs but Oz will be hard nut to crack. Our players need to be managed from now on in and hopefully the injured ones will return. 
I am however disappointed at the path followed recently.
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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
23 Jun 2014, 11:57
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23 Jun 2014, 11:57#6
Our clown of a coach is starting to lie to himself already - poor thing must be in turmoil - imagine what he will be saying after Oz and NZ  
JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
23 Jun 2014, 12:01
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23 Jun 2014, 12:01#7

Beeno: it is easy being an AB supporter. Why not cut your loses & join the winning team?

 

Beeno under the weather

           

Is he wearing his red galoshes?

 

By the way, we have it on good authority the Big Ears is Redsman. The red cap gave him way. But in any case Big Ears is the boss of Noddy so this is again evidence that the Ozzies will own the Boks in the RC.

JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
23 Jun 2014, 12:06
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23 Jun 2014, 12:06#8

 In all seriousness, Meyer will get it right eventually.

 

It is tough balancing injuries, overseas players and the s15 coaches over-playing players. IMO he will continue to introduce new players gradually - we could see Pollack play in the next test, at least from the bench. Next game will restore confidence but will not stop the debates though.

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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
23 Jun 2014, 12:07
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23 Jun 2014, 12:07#9
JW the Bok picture has become confused so its difficult to assess matters until we know what Meyer is going to do.
All though is not lost but Meyer needs his injured players back. Players need to be managed and he needs to get his selections right including NO QUOTAS!!!
If that is achieved we should have a great tri nations with the wee abs in third spot. well said Beeno!


CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
23 Jun 2014, 13:52
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23 Jun 2014, 13:52#10
 Beeno
Problem with ratings of players is often inaccurate and not looking at all aspects of the game.  In the case of Pietersen - the real stats are as follows:-
Pietersen0/000/2/55212017/20/000/0
Pietersen missed two crucial tackles - one of which let to a Welsh try.  His meter gain was made up of one run - when Willie put him onto space.
The major problem is that a miss tackle ratio for a center of over 22% is just not acceptable.  
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