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New Zealand Conference the strongest

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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
06 Mar 2012, 14:28
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06 Mar 2012, 14:28#1
  Todd Blackadder (File)   Ex Spoert 24 Christchurch - The Crusaders have rubbished South African claims that the Super Rugby conference system favours New Zealand and Australian sides.

According to the Stuff.co.nz website, the Sharks' New Zealand-born coach John Plumtree said the Australian and New Zealand conferences weren't nearly "as intense as ours here in South Africa".

Crusaders coach Todd Blackadder said on Monday: "I'd be quite happy to swap with (Plumtree). There are no easy teams in conference rugby.

"At this end, the Highlanders and Crusaders and Chiefs v Blues (in Round 2) showed how fiercely competitive the conference model is," he said. "Wait 'til you get down the track when you have a team ahead and all the other teams with nothing to play for you'll find how tough conference rugby is, because it's basically like an All Black trial.

"She's tough, rugged rugby and one thing about it, too, a lot of pressure produces fine players. Everyone can see how you can handle pressure. It's certainly not easy. It wouldn't get any tougher than our conference."

Crusaders scrumhalf Andy Ellis said New Zealand's conference was "by far the strongest", and was hugely challenging.

"When I was playing the Super 12 and Super 14, those local games, the New Zealand games, were always the toughest by far. That's just been doubled, really.

Ellis admitted "you've got to wonder" if the Australian conference might have been a little easier last year "with the Reds getting to play the Force and the Rebels" twice. "But at the same time, the best team seems to win, still, the Reds probably deserved the title last year."

The South Africa conference had "a couple of weaker sides", which meant the top teams might "get a bit of time off", he said. "Certainly, the New Zealand conference is by far the strongest. We're playing the toughest rugby week-in, week-out."   I think Plumtree was refering to physical intensity. Not necessarily the best quality?

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hakwaPro4,146 posts
06 Mar 2012, 15:34
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06 Mar 2012, 15:34#2

The Force and the Rebels are just points cows for the Warratahs and Reds - which is quite shameful! Away with this Conference rubbish and play a round robin as in the past - the top 4 play it out in the semis and then the finals.

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UsernamePro1,098 posts
06 Mar 2012, 15:47
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06 Mar 2012, 15:47#3

I have watched every super rugby game of the past two rounds now; I can wholeheartedly say that our conference is by far the hardest. The New Zealand conference in particular is slightly more competitive overall as a result of the weakening of their top two sides. This is a stark contrast to the improvement of the Cheetahs and Lions that have now put more pressure on their conference opponents! Australia's is easier still. So these claims are utterly foolish, just more hot air from the over-inflated Dodos.

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CeradynePro9,374 posts
06 Mar 2012, 15:53
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06 Mar 2012, 15:53#4

hakwa
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March 06, 2012, 13:34:35

The Force and the Rebels are just points cows for the Warratahs and Reds - which is quite shameful! Away with this Conference rubbish and play a round robin as in the past - the top 4 play it out in the semis and then the finals.

 

 

True, but the first step should be to cut it down to 12 or even 9 teams again and then introduce a second tier competition, ala the Heineken Cup and the Amla Challenge Cup. That way the likes of the Rebels, the Force, the Kings, etc could be included in an international competition as well. The four/three top teams in each country/conference (depending if it is 12 or 9 teams) gets to play the top tier competition, and the next four/three plays in the second tier competition.

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UsernamePro1,098 posts
06 Mar 2012, 15:56
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06 Mar 2012, 15:56#5

I like the idea of a two division Super rugby competition. It cuts down the amount of games each side faces, but opens the door for real and sustainable expansion. Two divisions of 10 is acceptable. Having Super rugby fixtures either side of a 4 Nations tournament is madness. I don't think they realise how difficult it is going to be to keep up!

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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
06 Mar 2012, 16:12
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06 Mar 2012, 16:12#6

Not a bad idea windpomp - for a change of course!!

Super 12 is about right with all sides playing eachother.

If bulle wear pink put them in the second tier - more out of sight you understand! Not the image rugby wants to project.

 

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CeradynePro9,374 posts
06 Mar 2012, 17:24
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06 Mar 2012, 17:24#7

You trying to keep the poor Stompies out of the path of the Mighty Pink Bulls Beenbal?

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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
06 Mar 2012, 17:57
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06 Mar 2012, 17:57#8

Windpomp just pray Alistair doesn' t pick my pack and the bulle have to face them. The wee bulle will be minced!

I refer of course to the following:

Kitshoff, Liebenburg Malherbe

Etzebewth, Bekker

Burger, Vermulen and Elstadt.

Close to 940 kg of dynamite windpomp.  Face facts - no pack could handle that lot. Then when the bulle are down and out we bring on Deon Fourie and Kosner to run them ragged.

I remember how last year the commentators were suprised when our pack was pushing the "big" bulle pack around - they simply were unacquainted with the facts. So here I am spelling it out. Alistair pick this pack and da bulle will not even arrive for the match!!! Hahahahahahhahahahahahahaha imagine ou spiesies, stegsies and potty facing that lot!!!!!!!!!

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