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Nigel Owen

Started by Mozart24 REPLIES705 VIEWS· 15 Sept 2018, 18:24
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Mozart
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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
15 Sept 2018, 18:24
#1
15 Sept 2018, 18:24#1
Missed two knock ons in moves that led to NZ tries....blew some dubious offside and not rolling away calls....and his penalty in the scrum against the Boks near the line was a disgrace as Kitshoff clearly broke the NZ tight head. And the call against Willie was marginal at best, it was perhps marginally offside but not part of a repeated offense. The Boks as usual were playing 16 if not 17 men as it appears the one linesman was in on the act.
sharkbok
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15 Sept 2018, 18:57
#2
15 Sept 2018, 18:57#2
My biggest concern about Owen is that no one understand s his accent, although I suppose it is the same for both sides.
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Plum
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PlumCaptain21,007 posts
15 Sept 2018, 19:06
#3
15 Sept 2018, 19:06#3

Yeah, McKenzie goes to ground near the end of the game, nobody around him and the ball rolled forward, by some distance. No whistle. 

I'm telling ya Moz, there is dubious shi t going on with WR and NZ rugby.

My feeling is that they that it has to do with growing the game being easier while an "all time great" team is at the head.

Before the Kiwis do their usual ganging up. Please understand that I don't give a shit. Ok.

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DbDraad
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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
15 Sept 2018, 19:29
#4
15 Sept 2018, 19:29#4

We were 2 tries better today...ya I know we got the luck of the bounce for two tries, but we also got the rath of a poor whistle from Owens way more than fair. The Boks were Titans today. Well done.

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clevermike
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
15 Sept 2018, 20:02
#5
15 Sept 2018, 20:02#5

There were some clear home town decisions by Owens - and he was quite liberal insofar as the AB's are concerned - but I would rather say that the Springboks won on merit and not because of what Owens did today.   

By the way he made a balls-up with the carding of Le Roux.   There was one case that Barrett - the AB lock - should have been carded - but not even a penalty was awarded,    Owen cannot say he did not see what happened in that case - he was standing next to the maul when it happened .         


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Pakie
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PakieCaptain17,321 posts
15 Sept 2018, 20:06
#6
15 Sept 2018, 20:06#6

At least Beauden was on our side.

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Augenöffner
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AugenöffnerPro6,974 posts
15 Sept 2018, 20:32
#7
15 Sept 2018, 20:32#7

The scrum call in our 22 was a big one. There were a few bad calls. I didn't want to bring it up, but it wasn't the best reffing in a Bok test this RC so far. 

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Just_win
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Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
15 Sept 2018, 21:28
#8
15 Sept 2018, 21:28#8
Take a moment to enjoy the win guys. 
The ref was fine, the usual odd call that was questionable including at the end when the linesman was calling for offsides but Owen did not call it. B ottom line it was a very good game of rugby.
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Mozart
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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
15 Sept 2018, 22:25
#9
15 Sept 2018, 22:25#9
Have to disagree .....he was not fine, not by a long shot. Your own commentators pointed out 'harsh calls' and missed knock ons. There was also one advantage for a penalty near the 10 metre line, which resulted into an AB being pushed into touch near the goal line.....and that wasn't advantge. It was another one eyed performance.
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moolaa
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moolaaPro2,380 posts
15 Sept 2018, 23:14
#10
15 Sept 2018, 23:14#10
Geez even in victory you guys are saying the ref was one eyed! Did you not realise that the linesman in overtime told Owens “8 and 9 offside “ which for some inexplicable reason he chose to ignore? Penalty would have been right in front of the posts and maybe B.B. might have got that one....
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Just_win
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Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
15 Sept 2018, 23:21
#11
15 Sept 2018, 23:21#11
Moolaa, Owen suffered from Barnesitis on that non-call.  The Boks seemed to be offside on multiple occasions but the ref didn't call it. Thems the breaks, All Blacks lost Boks won, try to enjoy it guys. Even Beeno has not complained about the ref so why not follow his leadership on this one?
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Plum
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PlumCaptain21,007 posts
16 Sept 2018, 00:41
#12
16 Sept 2018, 00:41#12

See the logic...

Pointing out that the ref missed a bunch of pretty easy calls = Bok fans can't enjoy a win.


JW
Just_win
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16 Sept 2018, 00:48
#13
16 Sept 2018, 00:48#13
This is Bok fans enjoying a win? O.K, I stand corrected.
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16 Sept 2018, 01:34
#14
16 Sept 2018, 01:34#14
Willie Leroux may have been individually been unlucky to get the yellow card, but the Boks were offside allot so a yellow card was due. 
With so much pressure in the last 15 minutes, it was inevitable The ref did give another warning for being offside in the last 5 minutes , which could have been another yellow. 
Boks were also fortunate at the end that the ref did not consult the linesman for offside.
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Mozart
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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
16 Sept 2018, 01:37
#15
16 Sept 2018, 01:37#15
Yep the same linesman called an earlier offside the commentators disagreed with but Owens acted on....the fact that he called it again is not persuasive.
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Just_win
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Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
16 Sept 2018, 02:01
#16
16 Sept 2018, 02:01#16
Changing the subject, amazing how the Boks played so much hard defense and did not run out of puff. Most teams would have collapsed to the ground. 
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Mozart
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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
16 Sept 2018, 05:34
#17
16 Sept 2018, 05:34#17
Fair point JW it was a huge defensive effort. But I don't want to let go of the topic just yet. If we questioned the ref after losing an AB game we would be called bad sports....so this is a rare opportunity. Thus far in the Rugby Championship the Boks have 2 yellows, the other 3 teams have none. Were the actions of Etzebeth and especially Willie so different from what we have seen from the other teams. I doubt it. From the moment the second half started the Boks looked in danger of penalties.....and they received many verbal warnings and threats. To me more amazing than the Bok defence staying the course is that they could keep their composure and stay focused in the face of constant harassment from the ref.
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clevermike
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16 Sept 2018, 05:35
#18
16 Sept 2018, 05:35#18

There is always a post-match review of refereeing by SANZAAR and there are also opportunities for the coaching staff of eac side to submit their comments for consideration,

That review would include the penalties and how the match was in fact refereed.    Although the findings are never really made public the situation is that the referees involved are often enough reprimanded if they foul up,

That is where the situation is dealt with - no comments on this site is worth any real consideration.    Whatever Erasmus put in is report about the penalty issue is what is going to count as well - he is not in the habit to keep quiet on referee issues and his report will be clear and specific.   I would rather wait and see what comes out iro refereeing and also see what experts like Kaplan said about the situation.

In the meantime debating this issue takes away from the really brave inputs by the players in the game.   So lets rather congratulate the players on their achievements instead.             

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Mozart
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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
16 Sept 2018, 05:38
#19
16 Sept 2018, 05:38#19
A sickeningly transparent attempt to seize the high ground. But I guess your dementia is kicking in Tokkie you have already opined on the ref on this string.
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clevermike
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
16 Sept 2018, 06:01
#20
16 Sept 2018, 06:01#20

Logic is what count in this case and since you have none bar personal attacks it comes out in whatever you write on site.   You started the thread followed by three further comments by you  -  I made two comments and suddenly you implied that I may not comment a second time.    I know you are trying to run this site with your constant BS - but believe me you are not the site editor.

Best of luck - world top rugby analyst as proclaimed by you yourself - with your new campaign on site,        

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Augenöffner
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16 Sept 2018, 09:43
#21
16 Sept 2018, 09:43#21

Your second last post lacked focus or purpose. Poor form. Swingin', but they ain't stickin'. 

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clevermike
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
16 Sept 2018, 09:58
#22
16 Sept 2018, 09:58#22

I was merely stating that there are ways open for Erasmus to raise the issue with SANZAAR and there are real refereeing experts like Kaplan that would comment on the issue.

So what lack of focus does that represent?   Weird that you could come up with that,    

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Mozart
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16 Sept 2018, 13:34
#23
16 Sept 2018, 13:34#23
No you were trashing the string after contributing to the string.....you were being a tit....again.
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clevermike
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
16 Sept 2018, 17:59
#24
16 Sept 2018, 17:59#24

I never trashed the thread - I merely pointed out the real situation and apparently you did not like it because nobody in the world can be compared with your knowledge iro rugby issues,    

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16 Sept 2018, 19:19
#25
16 Sept 2018, 19:19#25

Dr Moz i would still rather have Owen as a ref than any down under ref burglar. No down under ref officiated and both down under sides LOST. Hahahahahaha

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