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Started by Beeno117 REPLIES382 VIEWS· 17 Aug 2019, 19:26
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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
17 Aug 2019, 19:26
#1
17 Aug 2019, 19:26#1

Thomas Du Toit. Big pap oak. 

Scarra. 

Wilco

Orie. 

Kwagga?  Have my doubts.

Rein ach

Frans Steyn

Gelant?

A guy like Leyds didn't have much of a chance but the wings are plentiful. 

Willemse may still be in with a shot. 

XA
XaviPro1,924 posts
17 Aug 2019, 19:32
#2
17 Aug 2019, 19:32#2

Agreed although I would add Elstadt too that list.


Kwagga might be an option off the bench.

XA
XaviPro1,924 posts
17 Aug 2019, 19:33
#3
17 Aug 2019, 19:33#3

Reinach will probably still go as 3rd choice. 

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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
17 Aug 2019, 19:34
#4
17 Aug 2019, 19:34#4

Xavi Elstadt got through a huge amount of hard graft. Probably the most hard working forward. 

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
17 Aug 2019, 19:37
#5
17 Aug 2019, 19:37#5

I think that both Steyn and Esterhuizen did their utmost not to make the Springbok squad.  So where to now.   I am inclined towards the Willemse selection - he cannot be as bad as Steyn and Esrerhuizen - even on an off day.

Jamtjies cannot be said he had a good game either,   I think De Jager had a good game - slightly better than Snyman.

Now watch out for the ratings of Mozart and AO for a good laugh, .

  

 

 

XA
XaviPro1,924 posts
17 Aug 2019, 19:37
#6
17 Aug 2019, 19:37#6

Watch the first kick off and following 10 or so minutes.

3 missed tackles, not great from a backrower. He settled into the game but got bounced again in the 2nd half.

Papper than Mostert??

XA
XaviPro1,924 posts
17 Aug 2019, 19:41
#7
17 Aug 2019, 19:41#7

Lood gave away the ball twice, TWICE which is two more than RG and yet you think he had a better game. 

AND he was substituted so Orie could get a run on. 


Too funny

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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
17 Aug 2019, 19:49
#8
17 Aug 2019, 19:49#8

Kolbe will be third scrummie I reckon. 

Kwagga cannot start. Maybe a sub. He is like Keegan Daniels. 

Mike I think Willemse should go if properly fit. 

We shall on Monday. 

Koch did his changes no harm. Take three tig htheads and two loose heads. Nyakane can play loose head as well.. 

BE
Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
17 Aug 2019, 19:52
#9
17 Aug 2019, 19:52#9

Kolbe can play wing 15 and 9.


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PakieCaptain17,321 posts
17 Aug 2019, 19:57
#10
17 Aug 2019, 19:57#10

Kriel was pretty hopeless today, but I guess he's a given in the squad.

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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
17 Aug 2019, 20:28
#11
17 Aug 2019, 20:28#11

Unfortunately all these guys were not playing in a coherent Team. Didn't help their cause. 

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PakieCaptain17,321 posts
17 Aug 2019, 20:30
#12
17 Aug 2019, 20:30#12

Not sure what Ou Mike's beef with Esterhuizen is again now, guess he has to bitch about him out of principle. Apart from Nkosi he was our only back who ran hard and direct, and he did fine with what he got.

Pity about Marcell going off early, he looked good for the bit that he was on.

CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
17 Aug 2019, 20:39
#13
17 Aug 2019, 20:39#13

Sure the off-load in the case of the Nkosi try is an example - another is a lineout  take on Argentinian throw-in.   And De Jager made 14 tackles missing 1 -  Snyman made 4 tackles missing 5.  My above statement was an understatement - should have said De Jager was twice the lock  Snyman was,     

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
17 Aug 2019, 20:39
#14
17 Aug 2019, 20:39#14

Duplicate 

CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
17 Aug 2019, 20:52
#15
17 Aug 2019, 20:52#15

Pakie

Nothing not based on fact. Hi s defense was magnificent - 2 tackles made - only I missed .   Most carries was totally running slowly into the opposition forwards will get his team nowhere fast.

He carried balls like a prop today both as seen and as slow.  .  

CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
17 Aug 2019, 20:52
#16
17 Aug 2019, 20:52#16

Duplicate.

XA
XaviPro1,924 posts
17 Aug 2019, 20:54
#17
17 Aug 2019, 20:54#17

Lol, Liar Mike..

Don't stress, Lood will go to Japan.....someone has to carry the bags!

sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,249 posts
17 Aug 2019, 21:18
#18
17 Aug 2019, 21:18#18

Most of these players will not be any of the flights to Japan. 

Wilco - despite early promise, we have an eater here. He is not an athlete that can run around. 

Orie - A joke in bad taste. 

Kwagga - 4 tests so far, and he did nothing. He is not a fetcher, and playing him at number 6 is pointless. He could have stolen possession near the end of the match but was not strong enough. And then that kick at the end of the match.... Imagine that non-sense in the world cup. I think Kwagga's ship has sailed. 

Scarra - was never really a world cup option.

Reinach - If Kolbe is backup, he is not going to the world cup. 

Thomas DuToit - was hopeless. The scrum was a joke, the only question was if Koch was worse. 

Schalk Brits - average. He will make it only if more than 2 hookers included. 

Koch - Crap. Penalty machine. Was lucky to stop match-winning Argentina try with the block, as he would probably have missed the tackle.


Dejaager - This is not an international standard player. Willing in body, but not mind. 

Eldstat  - 2 test chances, and he is slow and ponderous in both attempts

Esterhuizen - a Donkey playing at centre. Not an international standard.


Scrum was crap. 

Lineouts were better

Slipped tackles were probably the biggest issue. 


Positives- 

The long pass tactic to get the wings into the game is varying the crash ball option from the inside centre. Everyone is getting their hands on the ball, so wings can get opportunities to run. Nkosi scored that try out of nothing. We have some solid attacking options on the wing- as good or maybe even better than the other teams.


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