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No sugar coating that one

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BrycyPro4,671 posts
26 Oct 2019, 19:28
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26 Oct 2019, 19:28#1

...,the motherland far too good for the team NZ fronted so the ABs will just have to take that one on the chin and salute them on their performance...no bones about it that was a good old fashion pantsing.. 

...Defence wins games and England did a better job of building a wall and shutting down what looked like a pretty clueless plan of attack from the ABs that at times went backwards...


...Not sure if that was even England's best team that beat us if you watch English Premiereship comp there is some great depth there..which bodes well for the future for them

Moving forward England are now the team to beat and can see them taking out the RWC title this year...Their forward pack is something else even if at face value they look like a bunch of fatties, they work exceptionally well together ...


Big cleanout of coaching staff now coming for the ABs so afresh start coming....plenty of players heading north to cash in so we'' see a new look team...will we see Cruden back in the 10 jersey next year for the ABs someone who never lost a game he started in the 10 jersey for the ABs ...talk that he;s coming home to the Mighty Chiefs where Gatland will be coaching..


Will the Barret brorthers survive the cull....who will replace Bender .....Captaincy questions also ... interesting times ahead but England credirt where credits due...deserved winners on the night..

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sharkbokCaptain23,246 posts
26 Oct 2019, 19:50
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26 Oct 2019, 19:50#2

Yes based on that performance, England must be 85%+ favourites to win the World Cup. 

Wales have no chance of beating England, and SA perhaps 15%... 

The Boks are the only team at the world cup with a forward pack that could match England. It is clear the Boks will need fetchers on the pitch and not just ball carriers, so Kolisi's time on the field could be reduced to get Francios Louw on the park.

On the day the All Blacks were not great, and England was fantastic. However, England did not look as good against Australia...

So maybe England will not play as well next week.

England has been good in the first 2 years of Eddie Jones era, but slipped in form after injuries. They have now got back to where they were- while the All Blacks performance has dipped over the last 2 years by their own standards.

The Vinopola brothers are very physical, and can dominate the advantage line at will. 

Hopefully, the Boks can beat Wales tomorrow... Then Rassie will need to plan on how to contain the English forwards while making plans to be able to score more points...


MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
26 Oct 2019, 19:52
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26 Oct 2019, 19:52#3
Well said Bricy.....not the ABs day. Since the Lions series NZ has looked less dominant, but the big win over Ireland suggested they were rounding into form. Playing the world's best 10 at 15 is something Hansen is going to be thinking about for a long time .
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moolaaPro2,380 posts
26 Oct 2019, 22:08
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26 Oct 2019, 22:08#4
ABs definitely 2nd best last night but one loss doesn’t make them a bad team. They were never in it once that first tackle was missed on the right side for England on Watson(?). After England scored and ABs got ball inside Poms’ half for the first time Laulala was stripped of the ball by Farrell and I had the sense the ABs heads were in the wrong place! As I said on another thread, playing Scott Barrett at start instead of Cane was a big mistake in my opinion and he was pulled at half time. Boks in pole position now as Poms have played their final and will struggle to back that 10/10 performance next week!
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Mrs SearlePro1,533 posts
26 Oct 2019, 22:29
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26 Oct 2019, 22:29#5

Yeah I dont get why jordie and scott keep getting eslected. must have better depth elsewhere that cant be it! 

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redsmanPro1,710 posts
26 Oct 2019, 22:43
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26 Oct 2019, 22:43#6

Poms provincial rugby key to the depth...

Opposite direction in Aus... no one even knows whos playing and no one cares...

I've been saying it for last 6 mths - mounga was a mistake - BB can create and make things happen.. I dont think I even saw mounga once last night.

Anyway boks up against it next week...

And... EJ... just proven coaching skills..


BTW noticed in previous post - England visited SA in 2018 for 3 game series...

100% guarantee EJ was workng on plan to beat the boks next week... 

lookout Saffas this pom team look like world champs.


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Mrs SearlePro1,533 posts
26 Oct 2019, 23:02
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26 Oct 2019, 23:02#7

He was trying new tactics on that tour Red, some new attack setups/formations and plays . The Bokkies fans didnt get it, they think they came away the winners but their rugby stagnated from therebut we used it to improve. We really gave them hell anyway which a couple of idiots here dont want to admit. Then they threw everything at us at Twickers and got run ragged and lost. They got a big pack but thats it, big blunt dumb muscle and no variation at all. If they cant bully you physically they really have a hard time of it. Against Japs they still struggled most the game even though they were so much bigger. sooo, they need to think about that before they insult Engerland.

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