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Now it becomes harder for Teflon Eraser

Started by Mozart18 REPLIES727 VIEWS· 23 Sept 2019, 17:59
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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
23 Sept 2019, 17:59
#1
23 Sept 2019, 17:59#1
Rassie has benefited from two huge strokes of fortune.....a win and a draw in NZ, when the smart money would have said the games were lost. Other than those two results, his Bok record isn't even mediocre. But, largely because of the recent draw, there has been huge optimism among Rasistas.....somewhat echoed by the world press who have never really bought into the decline of the Boks. The man who singlehandedly turned around the Boks fortunes. But what has he really done? Our set pieces are no better, our general backline play has probably declined under Eraser.....so what? Better defence for sure, the moment our defence was unravelled by the cross kicks outside the defensive line, we looked lost. Somehow at half time Nienaber papered over the cracks. And until the high energy required in an active defence sapped our energy in the last 10minutes, we were competitive......but not incisive.We cant construct anything....hell we couldn't even back up Kolbe's brilliant breaks. If it's a high scoring game, it's tough for the Boks. So where are we? The very disappointing performance against the AB is being spun big time.....a bump in the road, the ref was biased, it was just two brief passages of play. None of that's true. The real problem is we cant play with the ball. Our forwards still blunder into opposing tackles.....we managed 2 offloads vs a low 8 by NZ. We have gone backwards offensively under Eraser. The media needs to be shouting this from the hills.....but Eraser is the latest version of a South African prophet. Make no mistake though, this loss has stolen a lot of perceived momentum. And we will have to likely go through 3 of Ireland, Wales, England and the ABs. No doubt if we fail we will immediately hear about the short period of 2 years Eraser had. How we are set to win in 2023. But maybe some of our sychophantic press will peel away a bit of the teflon and admit, he has only improved our defence and that's 100% Nienaber, an obvious disciple of Jake White. But the players don't operate in a vacuum, when all they read is positive, they are going to drink the Kool Aid......and there's some value in that versus the barrage of negativity White and HM had to face. But confidence can only take you so far.....and confidence received a major blow with this loss. Luck has run Eraser's way so far.....and there is still a chance we can pull it off. But if not perhaps we will see Eraser is the road back to the past, not a path to the future.
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TheTraditionalistPro4,003 posts
23 Sept 2019, 18:16
#2
23 Sept 2019, 18:16#2

This is not soccer.


SA former regime chose rugby for one reason: there is no competition.

SA is still a huge favourite to become world champion, all it takes is that another team eliminates NZ, which is possible.

MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
23 Sept 2019, 18:23
#3
23 Sept 2019, 18:23#3
'This is not soccer'......let these words be memorialized....after 1730 posts, finally a truth.
CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
23 Sept 2019, 18:34
#4
23 Sept 2019, 18:34#4

Strzok

In a world cup series there is still some hope  - after all in 2015 we were disgraced by a first round as a result of a  loss against Japan and  loss against NZ in the first round is not  disgrace.  Anyway in watching the game I wonder whether the NZRU has donated a farm or something to Garces - his reffing could not have been that bad without some compensation.            

MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
23 Sept 2019, 18:45
#5
23 Sept 2019, 18:45#5
I'm no Garces fan, I think all the French refs tend to make emotional decisions quickly and are poor at reflecting on what's really happening. I prefer the ex rugby player refs who let the game flow and understand the dynamics of the game. But I don't think Garces was nearly in Bryce's league on Saturday, and most of the penalties were pretty obvious. We weren't beaten by the ref in this case.
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PakieCaptain17,321 posts
23 Sept 2019, 18:48
#6
23 Sept 2019, 18:48#6

'This is not soccer'......let these words be memorialized....after 1730 posts, finally a truth.

Haha, the penny has finally dropped. Off to the football section with you, Trad.

DB
DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
23 Sept 2019, 18:51
#7
23 Sept 2019, 18:51#7

"But I don't think Garces was nearly in Bryce's league on Saturday, and most of the penalties were pretty obvious. We weren't beaten by the ref in this case."

Agreed, but there were glaring amateurish errors and if NZ were on the receiving end of those in a knockout match, I would wager a repeat of "Suzie Gate" and "Barnsie Gate" A pro sport can't afford these errors on the regular base that it seems to happen...and I'm not talking about Saturday's matches...it's a regular occurrence....and it's BS.

PA
PakieCaptain17,321 posts
23 Sept 2019, 19:00
#8
23 Sept 2019, 19:00#8

Ireland is going to severely test us. They looked hungry against Scotland.

CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
23 Sept 2019, 19:03
#9
23 Sept 2019, 19:03#9

Strzok

I saw six clear instances where the AB's should have been penalized and they were not - three scrums (Moody's elbow on the ground) and the Read-Du Toit incident (which to my mind was at least a  yellow card offence), as well as a side entry in a ruck situation by Coles  and Moody's shoulder hit of Marx against the head.          

DB
DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
23 Sept 2019, 19:06
#10
23 Sept 2019, 19:06#10

Pakie, ofcourse, but if we want to win this thing, we should be able to beat everyone...we know we can beat NZ, but twice a year is a tall ask...now it will only have to be once. I'm not in despair, we competed well...lots of room for improvement, but atleast we're still in with a shout.

MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
23 Sept 2019, 19:06
#11
23 Sept 2019, 19:06#11
The trouble is rugby's rules are complex and require judgement. 1 Which prop brought down the scrum. 2 Did the fetcher fully support his own weight 3 Did the runner hang onto the ball on the ground too long. Soccer reffing is so much easier, but even there the new video system is turning up mistake after mistake. For me mistakes are a given. What I look for is systematic bias, which has occurred, but not in this case.
CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
23 Sept 2019, 19:16
#12
23 Sept 2019, 19:16#12

Strzok

I am afraid you are wrong - there was clear bias - since the offenses I referred to happened right in front of the ref and there was no way he could not have seen it.  One or two incidents can be \excused - six is just unbelievable. 

CL
CleanCutPro9,905 posts
23 Sept 2019, 19:36
#13
23 Sept 2019, 19:36#13

Oh brother!!! ... and I suppose the Goats didn't transgress the laws at all ... they weren't allowed to get away with anything, right? Every transgression was punished ... right?

Bullsheeeeaattt!!!

What a bunch of babies you are. It's embarrassing to listen to you whine like this.

The Goats we're out coached ... out selected ... out smarted ... and out played.

There is nothing more to say about the match.

Rassie selected his team of quotas and you honestly expected them to beat the best in the world?

Tell me something ... just how ignorant are you lot??



MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
23 Sept 2019, 19:41
#14
23 Sept 2019, 19:41#14
Feel like a bigger man now.....pushing out your boop as you stride to your desk next to all the 'quotas'?
CL
CleanCutPro9,905 posts
23 Sept 2019, 19:44
#15
23 Sept 2019, 19:44#15

Boop?


DB
DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
23 Sept 2019, 19:49
#16
23 Sept 2019, 19:49#16

Probably "boep" if he was addressing CC...boob if Mike, I suspect it must be CC, although I don't know why he thinks CC has a boeppêns, I'm the beer glutton around here.

CL
CleanCutPro9,905 posts
23 Sept 2019, 19:57
#17
23 Sept 2019, 19:57#17

Haaaaaaaaaahahahahaha!!! Yeah ... of course he meant "boep"!

It's almost as funny as his "Vinny" Vunipola blunder.

I don't think he'll ever get his head out into the fresh air.



MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
23 Sept 2019, 20:22
#18
23 Sept 2019, 20:22#18
Oh by all means let's spell it correctly 'boeppens'.....the thing that wobbles in front of you when you walk Carbuncle. The thing that falls over your belt is the onderboep.
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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
23 Sept 2019, 20:40
#19
23 Sept 2019, 20:40#19
Rassie has proved very little as a coach so the jury is still out. I’m not convinced by some of his short sighted selections. We can’t expect to completely dominate up front if we have a flyweight at lock, a lock playing flank and the unexplained demotion of our best tighthead. In the backs our best 12 in Serfontein has yet to feature under Rassie and our best 13 is wasted on the bench. As for game plan - the rush defence is easy to exploit and the persistence of our 9 kicking aimlessly is beyond comprehension
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