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Now they want to play Pollard at center

Started by Beeno113 REPLIES253 VIEWS· 13 Oct 2014, 11:13
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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
13 Oct 2014, 11:13
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13 Oct 2014, 11:13#1

Its bad enough him playing Currie Cup after a heavy workload thgis year but to play him at center!!! The mind boggles - surely there can be no question that his future is at flyhalf. Here we have potentailly the greatest flyhalf to arrive on the scene for many years.

Springbok coach Heyneke Meyer would probably rather want Handre Pollard not to play, but the Vodacom Blue Bulls wunderkind’s possible shift into the midfield could well work out well long-term for the Springboks.

Burger Odendaal’s fractured arm means that he will be out for between 8 and 12 weeks, ending his season in the a tragic way for the inside centre, and leaving the Bulls with a tough decision or two before they take on Western Province in their Absa Currie Cup semifinal at Newlands on Saturday.

Odendaal has been one of the finds of the Bulls backline this season, and has certainly been a threat on attack for the side, with opposition defences having to watch him very carefully.

But without a back-up that has played all season, the Bulls now will look to Pollard to fill the gap at 12, much like he did two years ago for the SA under-20 side.

Pollard is on record in saying he prefers to play at 10 and didn’t enjoy his time at 12 in the IRB Junior World Championship, yet Meyer has publicly said more than once that he sees Pollard as a player that can also play at 12 for the Springboks in future.

If Pollard is moved to 12 and he is successful, it could give Meyer an extra option ahead of the Rugby World Cup next year, and at the very least, the Bok coach will have the chance to study his flyhalf’s play in the position.(There are other options other than playing Pollard at center)

New Zealand sides often find success by using a second five-eighth, or second flyhalf as their playmaker at 12, something South African sides have not done over the years but it is something that Meyer has been eyeing for a while now.

The Bulls certainly have other options, although the wisdom of bringing in a player who hasn’t played at this level for a playoff match will weigh heavily on their minds.

Ulrich Beyers has shifted to 12 and did so in the game against Griquas, and with his boot is a key man that can easily fill the void, while SA under-20 star Jesse Kriel can also slot into 12 if the Bulls feel the need.

Kriel’s twin brother Daniel played exceptionally well for the SA under-20s in the position as well, while former SA under-20 midfielder Ruhan Janse van Rensburg can also slot into the position.

Chances are though, that the Bulls are likely only to use Pollard there, with coach Frans Ludeke hinting at it after the game.

“We’ll look at our options, we’ve played against Province a long time ago in the competition so we have been focusing on other teams. We will make that decision in the week to come,” Ludeke said, adding that Pollard was the only real option at the moment.

“On Burger, he made a huge step up. When it was needed, he really made a difference in the midfield this season. He is creative, and he is a threat on the gainline and always got the forwards on the front foot. It is a pity he won’t play but hats off to him for what he has done.”

There was good news on the ankle injury to Piet van Zyl, which wasn’t as bad as expected and will see the scrumhalf train again on Thursday, putting him in contention for selection this coming weekend.

With the playoffs looming, it will be interesting to see if Ludeke sticks with his rotation policy at scrumhalf and hooker, or if he plays the two in-form players in Rudy Paige and Bongi Mbonambi ahead of Van Zyl and Callie Visagie respectively.

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
13 Oct 2014, 11:25
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13 Oct 2014, 11:25#2
 Beeno
Where did you get the above article from?   Whomseoever wrote that must be suffering from delusion.  Pollard played at center in the U20 WC last year and at times for Tuks in the varsity Cup and the Bulls on lower level and was never really a success story.   The man is a flyhalf - not a center.   The Bulls may want to keep Potgieter at flyhalf and play Pollard at center - but that would be a bad option.    Putting Pollard outside of an average flyhalf is not an answer - it just reudces his value to the team. 

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
13 Oct 2014, 11:25
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13 Oct 2014, 11:25#3
 Duplication
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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
13 Oct 2014, 11:36
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13 Oct 2014, 11:36#4
 It sounds crazy to me. It was from Supersport.
How did Goosen go last Satruday. I read he scored a great solo try. Goosen h as a great deal of talent. 
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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
13 Oct 2014, 11:36
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13 Oct 2014, 11:36#5
 It sounds crazy to me. It was from Supersport.
How did Goosen go last Satruday. I read he scored a great solo try. Goosen h as a great deal of talent. 
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
13 Oct 2014, 11:51
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13 Oct 2014, 11:51#6
 Beeno
I posted particulars on the performance of the squad players in France elsewhere and since you asked for it I would add Goosen here:-
Goosen
Goosen1/197/24/85113225/30/000/0
Goosen had an outstanding attacking game - as you would see he scored an excellent try and contributed to a seond try for Racing Metro.   He has started to make waves for his club and that is evident from his above performance.   Have you noted the silence of ceradunce on this one after he said Goosen is the Racing metro Reject.
Habana
Habana1/052/6/74424023/00/000/0
Excellent performance for Toulon.
Bakkies Botha
Botha0/000/1/4100105/12/031/0
An absolute disaster forTou;;on and the main reason why Toulouse beat them
As expected Morne Steyn was not selected for Stade Francais.
I still think that together with Pollard and Lambie - we have also Goosen as a top class flyhlf.  
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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
13 Oct 2014, 12:33
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13 Oct 2014, 12:33#7
So bloody what, he has played plenty of rugby at 12, its a one off given the injury to the 12......they have Potgieter at 10.......it makes sense to play Pollard at 12.......not like its going to be a permanent move.....get a grip Beenkop  
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bluebokPro3,977 posts
13 Oct 2014, 16:43
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13 Oct 2014, 16:43#8
Agree with Saff, Pollard is just a stop gap. No need to worry about it. Also, he has all the attributes to make a useful centre, so why not give him a bit of time in that position. Eventually he will be called on in his international career to move elsewhere in the back line, due to injury or whatever, so why not get some practice? 
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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
13 Oct 2014, 18:07
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13 Oct 2014, 18:07#9
Beenkop is so verkramped that thinking outside the box just does not feature with him  
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RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
13 Oct 2014, 19:49
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13 Oct 2014, 19:49#10
This could even work for the Springboks. At the risk of giving Gonzo the Gimp aka Dim Sum a heart attack, this is one way we could get both Handre Pollard and Patrick Lambie onto the pitch at the same time.
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RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
13 Oct 2014, 19:50
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13 Oct 2014, 19:50#11
Baboon-ou - the buffoon who wants Cheslin Kolbe to play scrumhalf - having a whine because H andre Pollard is being asked to shift out one place.
Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahahahahahahahahahahaha!
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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
13 Oct 2014, 22:03
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13 Oct 2014, 22:03#12
 I see the oaks are all at sea on the issue. Oaks we dont want to waste time playing Pollard at center. He needs all the experience at senior level he can get at flyhalf. It's also like wasting Dan Carters time playing him at center when he is a great flyhalf and an ordinary center. Getting a glimmer oaks.
Now the two dunces snapster and wee rooitwit are getting themselves into a frightful mess attacking the esteemed Beeno. The half baked snapster says Beeno can't think outside the box. While the unbaked rooitwit says Beeno is crazy to suggest Kolbe at scrum half. Bwahahahhahahaha these two twits need to discuss matters offline before getting in a tangle like this before launching an attack on Beeno!
Whilst playing Pollard at center is awaste of time given his potential greatness at flyhalf playing Kilbe at scrummie is a brilliant idea - and hence of course these two complete twits cant see it. 
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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
13 Oct 2014, 22:50
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13 Oct 2014, 22:50#13
 Beenkop you really are one stupid prick
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
13 Oct 2014, 23:23
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13 Oct 2014, 23:23#14
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I do not know why you people get youselfinto a twang as to Pollard playing at flyhalf.   He played as a center previously - but never achieved the level of performance he achoieved at flyhalf.   
The problem is that if you want to be successful in that you need a creative flyhalf and that is where I have a problem.   Potgiter is more of a journeyman - a slightly better replica of Morne Steyn - than he is a creative flyhalf.   That means that Pollard will not get good enough balls to eb really creative.   
So why he may be able to do quite well at center - I would think it would be better to use his c reativity at flyhalf.   
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