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Now we are down to no 3 in the World Rugby Rankings

Started by clevermike25 REPLIES391 VIEWS· 08 Sept 2014, 11:25
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
08 Sept 2014, 11:25
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08 Sept 2014, 11:25#1

We are bound to go further down a fter the coming Saturday and is unlikely to recover our ranking this year.


All this because Meyer buggers up the team through selection of players like Victor Matfield, Morne steyn and Ruan Pienaar.   Will it never hit home that those player are has beens or in the case of Morne a never has been.   


Slipping down the ratings is not going to help anybody and with the present sceanrio of selecting under-performing players there is no way we can recover our previous no 2 ranking and definitely no way of going higher than we used to eb until Saturday. 


What a rubbish situation we are in now!!!!!!!

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hakwaPro4,146 posts
08 Sept 2014, 11:47
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08 Sept 2014, 11:47#2
 Don't be so hard on yourselves Mike - actually you did not play that badly. John Eales was just commenting at how good you guys were and did not know it - if only you'd run the ball more (his words not mine)
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3ku1Pro2,580 posts
08 Sept 2014, 12:16
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08 Sept 2014, 12:16#3
 Yeah Boks were by a mile the better side againgst Aussie. Unfortunately some shoddy defense and some bad ref calls resulted in a loss. Thought Serfointain was a star in the backline, not much on Attack but he made 20 tackles very good defensively (Did very well for me in Fantasy haha). It wont be an easy win for the abs, abs should and prob well win but it well be under 10 pts. Not that I like to blame or single out players in a team sport, but Steyn lost SA the game he should of tackled Horne, and Horne just side stepped him with ease, very poor defending. 
JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
08 Sept 2014, 12:25
#4
08 Sept 2014, 12:25#4

Beeno & co: you cannot say you were not warned. I have been telling you tha Oz will challenge your second place ranking for some time now. Beeno bleating on about how the AB ranking is at risk was too rich when the challenges for the second place were tighter. Poms will improve also so we will see what the June tours bring.

 

But seriously, Oz do not deserve their second place ranking and they will lose to Boks in SA anyway. Maybe to demotion in ranking will mean Meyer can make the changes that are necessary.

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PakieCaptain17,321 posts
08 Sept 2014, 12:38
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08 Sept 2014, 12:38#5
3ku1, I'm not a big Morne Steyn fan at the moment, but any decent wing should be able to step inside a corner flagging defender. Same happened at the other side with Hendricks' try - easy step inside past the scrambling defender. Whoever is racing across in a situation like that has no chance against a properly timed inside step.
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WardadPro6,663 posts
08 Sept 2014, 12:45
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08 Sept 2014, 12:45#6
 Bit harsh on the wee Bokke , but J_W did warn wee beandork eh ?Mikey you leave the Marvelous  Morne be , us Kiwis like him just fine .Fatty Mackenzies head is fattening nicely , should be able to fit a whole butternut pumpkin in his gob by X-mas
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CleanCutPro9,905 posts
08 Sept 2014, 12:57
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08 Sept 2014, 12:57#7
 
Soooooo ... the rot finally shows it's face.

Can't say I'm surprised.

It's been a long time coming.

The scary thing is that Meyer doesn't know, that he doesn't know.

Let's see if we drop to 4th by years end.
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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
08 Sept 2014, 15:27
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08 Sept 2014, 15:27#8
It wont be long before England pass us as well. For as long as we operate under Meyer, we will keep slipping down the rankings......its a given.  
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BoklogicPro1,978 posts
08 Sept 2014, 17:03
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08 Sept 2014, 17:03#9
 How fickle we as SA supporters can be.Gentleman, listen up and listen up good. Had Habana not been strangely yellow carded and Morne Steyn found touch, we would be hailing the Boks as heroes and Meyer as a maestro. 
The Boks did everything but win the game and I can assure you as a man living in Aus, these guys themselves think the Boks were robbed. I had girls at work talking about it today. Had Morne found touch, we set the line out and roll down the clock and win the game. It didnt happen..Morne fucked up..Is this reason to call for Meyer's head?
I would understand if we were beaten 5 tries to 1 or something but this was not the case. The fact remains that the Boks were in so much control up to the point where Habana was sent off that we managed to lose the game instead of Aussies win it!
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CleanCutPro9,905 posts
08 Sept 2014, 18:04
#10
08 Sept 2014, 18:04#10
 
Too many "if's" if you ask me, Logic ...

You forgot to include ... "if" only the Wallabies didn't take Morne bungled touch kick and run in a try ... or how about ... "if" only Foley didn't convert the try under pressure to win the match for the Ozzies ...

Hmmmm .... ??

Bottom line is we had the match in the bag or so we thought ... and then suddenly we didn't.

Meyer is an incompetent fool who should by rights take Juan Smith's example and do the right thing ... step down.

No-way anyone can EVER refer to Meyer as a Maestro. Only fools like Fa ggot and Doo s will refer to him as such. Looks like you're also a Meyer fan.

You see Logic, beating the Wallabies should be a foregone conclusion. We have a zillion more players than them to select from and yet ... we lost on Saturday. Why?

Yeah, yeah ... I know ... it's the cheating ref.

This loss should be placed squarely at the feet of Meyer. Just like the scrumming disaster against Argentina. Meyer knows we have a issue upfront yet thinks if he hides his head in the sand it'll go away.

What really get's me is that he seems surprised when it surfaces again. 

We did ok against the Wallabies. It's not exactly as if we decimated them in the scrum ... like we should have. Now Meyer and everyone else thinks its all good with our scrum.

This weekend we're up against a side that stood their ground against the Puma scrum.

They didn't break the land speed record going in reverse like we did a few weeks back.

Sorry, Logic!! Let's call it what it is and stop making excuses for a very poor Bok side and an even poorer coach.


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oimateyPro1,870 posts
08 Sept 2014, 18:34
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08 Sept 2014, 18:34#11
Yep - spot on BL.
Saturday's loss was far from the 14 point loss or "thumping" many here predicted. Fact is the game plan, even though it was being poorly executed, was winning the match. The problem with that type of game plan is that it often results in a game where there isn't much margin for error and that is exactly what happened between the ref and our own mistakes.
Where the heck is our kick chase? For a team to enter the game knowing what their approach would be, the pressure on the kick receiver during the RC has been dismal. AB's, for all their ball in hand running, are light years ahead of us in their execution of this and it simply shouldn't be. 
Willie le Roux needs to be at first receiver more often - last year he was popping up there frequently and having an impact, but we seem to have gone away from that. With as much territorial advantage that we had there should have been more scoring opportunities.
Overall, team continues to look out of sync this RC and playing well below the standard of last year and even the June tests.
Don't expect we will stay at #3 for long. I see the Aussies really struggling against Argentina. If our scrum was able to exert pressure, it will be a long day for the Aussie forwards against Argentina. Took a while for the AB's to put them to the sword on Saturday - they are playing much better than their world ranking would make you think.

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
08 Sept 2014, 18:58
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08 Sept 2014, 18:58#12
 oimatey
You are spot on here - the execution was poor and the kick chase impossible.   The problem is most kicks were poorly executed - way too long and inaccurate to allow for the chase to work.   Then there was two kicks that cost us 10 points - both by Morne  Steyn.
Morne has a habit of missing to fuind touch  with panelty kicks I counted 7 such kicks over the last year - most of which cost us dearly)  and also extremely poor aimless kicks - allowing the opposition to counter-attack.     The same with Pienaar - his kicking is even worse.   
Looking at the game again -  I still have serious reservations about Matfield - he is whatI would call a crinckle paper lock - far too weak from a physical perspective and ineffective in the Tight 5.   Even though he made a reasonable number of tackles - most of those were poor and allow players to off-laod or make the ball a vailable with ease.   H eis also to my mind the main reason for scrumming problems - as well as the absence from our game of driving mauls.
The half back pair and Matfield were the weak links in our game on Saturday and I sincerely hope that Matfield replace them.   Pollard, Hougaard/Reinach and De jager cannot be worse than the three mentioned.    

sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,294 posts
08 Sept 2014, 20:09
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08 Sept 2014, 20:09#13
 clevermike
 
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The half back pair and Matfield were the weak links in our game on Saturday and I sincerely hope that Matfield replace them.   Pollard, Hougaard/Reinach and De jager cannot be worse than the three mentioned.   
Matfield to play scrum half and flyhalf, and also replace himself at lock ?
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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
09 Sept 2014, 03:49
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09 Sept 2014, 03:49#14
 Just a pity the OOm got it wrong and we are still number two. Misinformation Mabel at work again. Can this poor moron get nothing right

1. New Zealand 93.56
2. South Africa 88.42
3. Australia 88.10
4. England 85.68
5. Ireland 83.44
6. Wales 80.70
7. France 80.01
8. Scotland 77.78
9. Samoa 76.59
10. Japan 75.39
11. Fiji 74.56
12. Argentina 73.98
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WardadPro6,663 posts
09 Sept 2014, 03:55
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09 Sept 2014, 03:55#15
 Yup I was just checking the rankings and saw this ....We dont need the Boks to have any extra motivation thank you very much Mikey !And leave Morne alone !
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bobbok...Captain10,129 posts
09 Sept 2014, 04:05
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09 Sept 2014, 04:05#16
 
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WardadPro6,663 posts
09 Sept 2014, 04:14
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09 Sept 2014, 04:14#17
 Yes them fuzy wuzzies dont like it up 'em do they Mr Mainwaring sir now do they ?
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bobbok...Captain10,129 posts
09 Sept 2014, 04:58
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09 Sept 2014, 04:58#18
 www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZR6wok7g7do
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sharkbokCaptain23,294 posts
09 Sept 2014, 05:22
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09 Sept 2014, 05:22#19
Australia must start as favourites this weekend, but Argentina are so low in the rankings that a win by AUS may not be enough to increase their rank. Although the Boks should decrease their rank unless they win of course which must be less than 50% chance.
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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
09 Sept 2014, 05:54
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09 Sept 2014, 05:54#20
Still it is funny to see the OOm, Rancid Dave and Clean Gene gleefully going on about our position loss, when poor Old OOm had led them down the garden path again. Some Bok fans  
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
09 Sept 2014, 06:01
#21
09 Sept 2014, 06:01#21
  S o their is a minimal percenatge keeping us at 2 - Watch out on  Saturday - we are going to be way down a fter that ine.  
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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
09 Sept 2014, 06:19
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09 Sept 2014, 06:19#22
 Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahahahahaha
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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
09 Sept 2014, 07:37
#23
09 Sept 2014, 07:37#23
Back to the top with this one...to quote the Oom  
CL
ClaydogClub Pro691 posts
09 Sept 2014, 09:19
#24
09 Sept 2014, 09:19#24
 The commentators did keep saying during the match that if the Walabies won we would go to number two, and I too assumed they knew what they were talking about.
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CleanCutPro9,905 posts
09 Sept 2014, 09:20
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09 Sept 2014, 09:20#25
 
Come now Mike ... leave the thumb sucking to Fa ggot. 


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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
09 Sept 2014, 16:45
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09 Sept 2014, 16:45#26

@ Genecut....s eems the thumb sucking sucked you in Lumpy.

 

 

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