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Now we know - who should be in the SA team and who not

Started by clevermike8 REPLIES698 VIEWS· 23 Jun 2018, 19:18
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
23 Jun 2018, 19:18
#1
23 Jun 2018, 19:18#1

Top on the list is Jantjies - he had a horror the worst ever in tests.   I give him for he performance 1/10.


Rallepele decided that he was on the field to give away penalties.   I hope it is the last we see of him,  He was not much better than Kolisi in that regard - but I think that it would not be possible to get rid of the latter.  Both gets 2/10 for their performance. 


Brits is definitely not a test level player anymore - whether he really is sill a super rugby level player one will have to see.   3/10

 

Faf must be careful - his enthusiasm is getting the better of him,   He gave away too many soft penalties and he should be careful not to spoil his test career by irresponsibility =   4/10


Esterhuizen was totally ineffective and his defense was very poor.   This guy has still got a future as a test player - but he was outside the atrocious Jantjies and that affected his game - his ball carries was satisfactory .   3,5/10


Gelant had a good game - that dribble kick leading to the Kriel try was very good.   He wnet to pieces a bit later in the game  4 /10    


Most of he other players would qualify for 5 to 5,5/10 - bar perhaps P=S du Toit who deserve a 6,5/10


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3ku1Pro2,580 posts
24 Jun 2018, 01:17
#2
24 Jun 2018, 01:17#2

Wheres Kwagga Smith? I picked Boks in super bru. Got that wrong haha. 

I think Pollard is your best ten. At backrow I Think you need a specialist 7. Mostert lock. 

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WardadPro6,663 posts
24 Jun 2018, 05:44
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24 Jun 2018, 05:44#3

My commiserations to the Bok fans ,but at least the series was in the bag .

The Aussies got shafted yet again by a French ref.The French should never be allowed to ref anything higher than a schoolgirls underv 12s game.

I cant think of any French ref who was any good.

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3ku1Pro2,580 posts
24 Jun 2018, 05:51
#4
24 Jun 2018, 05:51#4

Actually Ireland outplayed OZ. And deserved their series win. 

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CleanCutPro9,905 posts
24 Jun 2018, 11:26
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24 Jun 2018, 11:26#5

Yes ... we have a much better idea of who belongs.

More importantly though ... we have a definite idea of who doesn't belong.

Unfortunately, the majority of the quotas couldn't make the step up. Rassie has selected the best of the sorry lot ... and they just aren't good enough.

Bongi, Ralapelle, Kolisi, Jantjies, De Allende, Am, Gelant ... are there any better quota picks out there than these?

Now what??


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sharkbokCaptain23,255 posts
24 Jun 2018, 12:13
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24 Jun 2018, 12:13#6

Jantjies is probably finished at test level, but we have a very little backup at 10. 

Hopefully, Damien Willemse can make the step up in this years 4 nations.  I am not convinced about Robert Dupreez.

Calling merit players of colour quotas is stupid. 

Bongi played well this season and is a worthy backup to Marx. Ackers did very little with his time on the pitch. Chilly Boy is a quota, he was pathetic- but it is not as if Schalk played any better when he got onto the pitch. Schalk is a geriatric quota. 

Delande is of Hispanic heritage - so how can he be a quota. He did play better than what Esterhuizen did in this series and has had a solid SuperXV. 

Kolisi is out of form, but we don't exactly have many specialist fetchers. Notshe is also probably a quota.

Delande is of Hispanic heritage - so how can he be a quota. He did play better than what Esterhuizen. 

Gelant has played well in SuperRuby- and again other than Willie Leroux we don't exactly have any other potential test standard fullbacks. 

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CleanCutPro9,905 posts
24 Jun 2018, 12:55
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24 Jun 2018, 12:55#7

Bongi is a quota ... saying he isn't is a desperate attempt to qualify him as a test player. He isn't.

He's too small and contributes nothing to the set piece at scrum time ... and is about as useful in the tight loose as Kolisi is at the breakdown. He couldn't make the starting 15 at the Bulls and had to flee to the useless Stormers for a little game time.

De Allende looks like a coloured but in fact has Portuguese blood in him. Either way ... he's useless as we saw against the English and should not be in the mix. Black or white ... or whatever.

We have a number of options at 6. Cloete for one would be a massive step up to the useless Kolisi. Heinrich Brussow and Jaco Kriel are all much better options at 6. Even the elderly flo would be better ... so I'm not sure where you come up with not having options at 6.

Once again you seem to conveniently forget about our options at 15. Gelant was found wanting yesterday. He made a mess of things under a little pressure and doesn't have the pace to match top international players. Andries Coetzee may not be a flashy player but what he is solid under pressure and defensively. A far better option.

There is big difference between Super Rugby and Test Match rugby. One would think you know that.

Are you really that desperate to fill the Bok team with second rate quotas ... seems that stringing so many excuses together on their behalf is your only hope? The rest of us prefer reality. 

What a laugh.


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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
24 Jun 2018, 13:00
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24 Jun 2018, 13:00#8

Jantjies is probably finished at test level, but we have a very little backup at 10. 

Hopefully, Damien Willemse can make the step up in this years 4 nations.  I am not convinced about Robert Dupreez. Du Preez Jantjies is probably finished at test level, but we have a very little backup at 10. 

Hopefully, Damien Willemse can make the step up in this years 4 nations.  I am not convinced about Robert Dupreez.

Calling merit players of colour quotas is stupid. 

Bongi played well this season and is a worthy backup to Marx. Ackers did very little with his time on the pitch. Chilly Boy is a quota, he was pathetic- but it is not as if Schalk played any better when he got onto the pitch. Schalk is a geriatric quota. 

Delande is of Hispanic heritage - so how can he be a quota. He did play better than what Esterhuizen did in this series and has had a solid SuperXV. 

Kolisi is out of form, but we don't exactly have many specialist fetchers. Notshe is also probably a quota.

Delande is of Hispanic heritage - so how can he be a quota. He did play better than what Esterhuizen. 

Gelant has played well in SuperRuby- and again other than Willie Leroux we don't exactly have any other potential test standard fullbacks. Jantjies is probably finished at test level, but we have a very little backup at 10. 

Hopefully, Damien Willemse can make the step up in this years 4 nations.  I am not convinced about Robert Dupreez.

Calling merit players of colour quotas is stupid. 

Bongi played well this season and is a worthy backup to Marx. Ackers did very little with his time on the pitch. Chilly Boy is a quota, he was pathetic- but it is not as if Schalk played any better when he got onto the pitch. Schalk is a geriatric quota. 

Delande is of Hispanic heritage - so how can he be a quota. He did play better than what Esterhuizen did in this series and has had a solid SuperXV. 

Kolisi is out of form, but we don't exactly have many specialist fetchers. Notshe is also probably a quota.

Delande is of Hispanic heritage - so how can he be a quota. He did play better than what Esterhuizen. 

Gelant has played well in SuperRuby- and again other than Willie Leroux we don't exactly have any other potential test standard fullbacks. Jantjies is probably finished at test level, but we have a very little backup at 10. 

Hopefully, Damien Willemse can make the step up in this years 4 nations.  I am not convinced about Robert Dupreez.

Calling merit players of colour quotas is stupid. 

Bongi played well this season and is a worthy backup to Marx. Ackers did very little with his time on the pitch. Chilly Boy is a quota, he was pathetic- but it is not as if Schalk played any better when he got onto the pitch. Schalk is a geriatric quota. 

Delande is of Hispanic heritage - so how can he be a quota. He did play better than what Esterhuizen did in this series and has had a solid SuperXV. 

Kolisi is out of form, but we don't exactly have many specialist fetchers. Notshe is also probably a quota.

Delande is of Hispanic heritage - so how can he be a quota. He did play better than what Esterhuizen. 

Gelant has played well in SuperRuby- and again other than Willie Leroux we don't exactly have any other potential test standard fullbacks. Du Preez is a class act. Willemse will be ready soon. Shortage of Full backs of quality

Calling merit players of colour quotas is stupid. 

Bongi played well this season and is a worthy backup to Marx. Ackers did very little with his time on the pitch ( What utter rubbish!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!) . Chilly Boy is a quota, he was pathetic- but it is not as if Schalk played any better when he got onto the pitch. Schalk is a geriatric quota. AGREED

Delande is of Hispanic heritage - so how can he be a quota. He did play better than what Esterhuizen did in this series and has had a solid SuperXV. AGREED

Kolisi is out of form, but we don't exactly have many specialist fetchers(.Kolisi played well) Notshe is also probably a quota. AGREED



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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
24 Jun 2018, 17:52
#9
24 Jun 2018, 17:52#9

There is one player that all of you lost sight of and that is Combrinck.  I will always have him in the match day squad to back up the wings and the full back,  He is a much better player than Gelant will ever be and he is  better than Coetzee as well.   The latter is a better full back than people credit him to be.  

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