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NZ RUGBY COACH FOSTER RETAINED!

Started by moolaa19 REPLIES2,552 VIEWS· 17 Aug 2022, 06:46
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MO
moolaaPro2,380 posts
17 Aug 2022, 06:46
#1
17 Aug 2022, 06:46#1

Great news as Fozzie is retained until after RWC 2023.

It’s a wonder he still wanted the job after being pilloried disgustingly in the NZ and world wide press for weeks plus on numerous websites.

He’s the man for the job and hopefully Robinson now gets the boot from his job.

Good luck Fozzie and suck on that all those who abused him mercilessly (mostly Saders supporters) and that means you too Blackboy!!

CL
CleanCutPro9,905 posts
17 Aug 2022, 07:56
#2
17 Aug 2022, 07:56#2

My heartfelt condolences goes out to all the New Zealand people and the All Black fans.

It's dark days ahead ... 

Trust me I know ... the barnyard goats have been going through the same ever since they fired Jake White.

He was the last man to stand up for the Mighty Springbok and we've slowly regressed to the mess you see today.

Only difference is that you guys will eventually come to your senses.



JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
17 Aug 2022, 13:11
#3
17 Aug 2022, 13:11#3
Let’s hope the pressure & extreme criticism he & the team felt will continue to fuel performances like the one at Ellis Park. Also glad they introduced younger talent & played with more confidence.
CR
CrusadersfanPro3,099 posts
17 Aug 2022, 14:34
#4
17 Aug 2022, 14:34#4

One swallow doesn't make a summer as they say. He has nearly 3 years in the job and proved jack shit. In fact if you look at his head coaching record its unbelievable he got the job in the first place.

I think to much is being read into that win, yes we played a lot better but still well below ABs standards and the Boks selections aided us no end.

Not everyone we play will being making stupid selections especially in RWC2023 but now only time will tell who is right moolaa (I presume you are a chiefs supporter and that is why you are backing him?)


KI
kingcornPro3,695 posts
17 Aug 2022, 14:52
#5
17 Aug 2022, 14:52#5

That is great news for the rest of the world. Looks like the AB will join SA being knocked out in quarters of the World Cup. 

Still a long season ahead. So Aus and Argetina still waiting around the corner. 

MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
17 Aug 2022, 14:52
#6
17 Aug 2022, 14:52#6

I’m not surprised they reached this decision after the win and the strong player support from the likes of Savea. But are these old men really in touch with the players….are they thought leaders, pushing tactics.


Only time will tell. NZ rugby has followed their principles. Ultimately that may be the more important and lasting value to NZ rugby.

KI
kingcornPro3,695 posts
17 Aug 2022, 15:53
#7
17 Aug 2022, 15:53#7

We all seem to forget that there is almost no difference between the top 5 or 6 teams today. France, Ireland and England are peaking at the right time and have been a force for some time now. Then it is between SA and NZ, but Aus is not far behind when the can put a fit and injury free team out. 

Good place for world rugby to be in right now. Makes the games more interesting 

I would hate to go back where NZ or any other team just dominates 

TH
TheTraditionalistPro4,003 posts
17 Aug 2022, 19:12
#8
17 Aug 2022, 19:12#8

SA rugby and interesting rugby games in the same text. Brilliant.

TH
TheTraditionalistPro4,003 posts
17 Aug 2022, 19:38
#9
17 Aug 2022, 19:38#9

This will be tested soon enough, first during the championship and the November tour.

As to the side playing better, that was during an emergency situation, with a specific gameplan that can not be reproduced every single game. It was a one pony trick.

More informed about this.

One guy who worked from the side line was given an official position.

So the head coach may have been maintained while his range of actions within the team   has been reduced.

Sacking a head coach requires compensation money and it may have been decided that it was better not to, to save money while this head coach will be reduced and responsabilities and decision making powers transfered to someone else.

TH
TheTraditionalistPro4,003 posts
17 Aug 2022, 19:44
#10
17 Aug 2022, 19:44#10

The over reaction was not unbased.

NZ has been shaky for years now and they had striken a historically poor record.

KI
kingcornPro3,695 posts
17 Aug 2022, 23:12
#11
17 Aug 2022, 23:12#11

Trad, you have a good point there. It already cost them a few kiwis to fire two of their coaches. Not sure what the contract structures are like or labour laws in NZ but maybe the reason why they hung onto him. 

That said, if the brand damage is worse then paying him out then only then he may get fired. 

That is what happened to Coetzee, got a fat pay out but the stadiums weren't getting packed while he was coach. So got to swallow the loss. 

Rugby has very fine margins and a poor season or bad recruitment can cost you a lot. 

Australia pretty much had to pay all their profit to Falau 

TH
TheTraditionalistPro4,003 posts
18 Aug 2022, 12:50
#12
18 Aug 2022, 12:50#12

Ah, the habit from SA rugby supporters to compare themselves to NZ...


The main thing that both have had in common was to play in the same hemisphere. Apart from that....

TH
TheTraditionalistPro4,003 posts
20 Aug 2022, 18:52
#13
20 Aug 2022, 18:52#13

The suspicion about the severance pay out concern is confirmed from reading various newspapers.

Up to the point that it is said that in case of new mishap, this headcoach will be asked to resign instead of being given the sack.

DB
DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
20 Aug 2022, 19:36
#14
20 Aug 2022, 19:36#14

"Ah, the habit from SA rugby supporters to compare themselves to NZ..."

Nah, that's what you're doing...constantly slating our brand of rugga because it doesn't conform to the style you play a nd like...but yeh, think what you want, thankfully it won't change anything...


CL
CleanCutPro9,905 posts
20 Aug 2022, 19:42
#15
20 Aug 2022, 19:42#15

We have a brand of rugby? 

Seriously?

I thought we were winging it all this time.


DB
DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
20 Aug 2022, 20:07
#16
20 Aug 2022, 20:07#16

"I thought we were winging it all this time."

T hat's our brand!!!...so it's "we" again?...you're slipping.

CL
CleanCutPro9,905 posts
20 Aug 2022, 20:21
#17
20 Aug 2022, 20:21#17

I'm a frustrated Goat, Draad.


MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
20 Aug 2022, 20:31
#18
20 Aug 2022, 20:31#18

When CC says ‘we’, all the posters from prior lives come with….a bit like a Bene Gesserit nun.

TH
TheTraditionalistPro4,003 posts
21 Aug 2022, 15:15
#19
21 Aug 2022, 15:15#19

Nah, that's what you're doing...constantly slating our brand of rugga because it doesn't conform to the style you play and like...

Not possible. It has been stated so many times that SA rugby can not play rugby. That makes it impossible to compare to teams that can play rugby.

On the other hand, there have been reactions to posts claiming comparisons.


but yeh, think what you want, thankfully it won't change anything...

Never been the goal. The point has always been to speculate against the future. People engaged in this stuff have no stake in changing things about to happen.

SA rugby will collapse, it will do it without the speculation  written on this board or not.

BL
BlackboyClub Pro702 posts
22 Aug 2022, 09:35
#20
22 Aug 2022, 09:35#20
Foster is a wanker a pathetic cry baby who let Plumtree and Moar take the fall for his incompetence, any man with an ounce of integrity would have resigned. A fuckwit who said the loss to the Boks was their ‘best performance’ this season. Wtf was the second game then, their worst? Pull your head outa your fucking arse moolaa it’s so stuck up Fosters you can’t see Jack shit. Not just Crusader fans were pissing on him, the whole of NZ except those bloody dingaling cows in that cunt of a place called the Waikato bog hole
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