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Monkey D LuffyPro6,277 posts
19 Jun 2013, 08:16
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19 Jun 2013, 08:16#1

NZU20 lose to England in semis

 

A heartbroken New Zealand Under 20 side has lost their IRB Junior World Championship semifinal against England 33 - 21 this morning, despite a valiant second-half come-back effort.

It is the first time the four-time title-winning New Zealand side has not reached the World Championship Final. They will now prepare to play for bronze against 2012 champions South Africa, who were just beaten by Wales 18-17 in the first of the semifinals.

New Zealand started in the best possible way, when hooker Epalahame Faiva crossed for a five pointer in the 10th minute of the first half.

 

England struck back when openside flanker Matt Hankin scored a runaway try and this was followed up by a intercept try to right wing Anthony Watson. New Zealand first five-eighth Simon Hickey added a 48m penalty on the stroke of halftime; however New Zealand went to the halftime break behind on the scoreboard 20-8.

Penalties were exchanged early in the first half to keep the scoreboard moving for both teams.

New Zealand centre Jason Emery crossed for a try on the 60 minute mark after a twenty-phase attack. The conversion from the sideline was successful from replacement Jade Te Rure and this brought the New Zealand team to within five points of the lead with 15 minutes remaining. Another penalty from Te Rure with seven minutes remaining closed the gap to two points.

England crashed over for a try with five minutes to play and this was converted by Henry Slade. Slade added a final penalty to give England the victory 33 points to 21.

New Zealand Rugby Chief Executive Steve Tew said he was proud of the team’s efforts.

“That was a tough match and I am proud of the way they kept themselves in the game. I know those boys will be hurting as we have a proud record in this tournament but I also know they will get up for their last match against South Africa.”

New Zealand Head Coach Chris Boyd said that the team gave themselves every opportunity to win the match but mistakes at crucial times were costly.

"We lacked accuracy in excution at times that cost us 14 points. In the end this was the difference between the two teams. The team is very disappointed with the outcome of the match. The boys now have desperate resolve to get up for the match against South Africa on Sunday."

New Zealand Under 20 team will now play South Africa in the playoff for third and fourth on Monday 24 June (1.15am NZT). England will play Wales in the final.

Score Summary
Fulltime
England 33 (Matt Hankin, Anthony Watson, Jack Clifford tries. Henry Slade 4 pen, 3 con) beat New Zealand 21 (Epalahame Faiva try. Simon Hickey 1 pen. Jade Te Rure 2 pen, 1 con)

Halftime
England 20 - New Zealand 8

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Monkey D LuffyPro6,277 posts
19 Jun 2013, 08:19
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19 Jun 2013, 08:19#2

very sad first half from the boys, let themsleves get bullied by a much hungrier and more clinical england team, mikeys nostradamus like predictions about an all NH final were spot on, :o(

full credit to england, better team won on the day end of story and i wonder if this could lead to some kind of resurgnece in later years for they guys up north???
the english lads will be looking to wrap it up next week and bring the u2o trophy to england where it will keep the hillary shiled company, which england took after smashing the All Blacks, :o(
the english rematch on the EOYT was already the test ive been looking forward to the most in 2013, but now my thirst for revenge has never been higher (insert evil laugh), O_O

well at least we that NZ v SA match i predicted, only its for the bronze medal, :o(
IMO after watching the games unfold, the saffas should be feeling quite comfortable going into the thrid place matchm i think they have the advantage, especially after watching the boys get owned by england.
but  the outcome of the NZ u2os and jrBoks is more important after i think about it, cos now were playing for sarugby.com bragging rights, so ,,,

GO NZ U20s TEAM!!!

MD
Monkey D LuffyPro6,277 posts
19 Jun 2013, 08:19
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19 Jun 2013, 08:19#3

very sad first half from the boys, let themsleves get bullied by a much hungrier and more clinical england team, mikeys nostradamus like predictions about an all NH final were spot on, :o(

full credit to england, better team won on the day end of story and i wonder if this could lead to some kind of resurgnece in later years for they guys up north???
the english lads will be looking to wrap it up next week and bring the u2o trophy to england where it will keep the hillary shiled company, which england took after smashing the All Blacks, :o(
the english rematch on the EOYT was already the test ive been looking forward to the most in 2013, but now my thirst for revenge has never been higher (insert evil laugh), O_O

well at least we that NZ v SA match i predicted, only its for the bronze medal, :o(
IMO after watching the games unfold, the saffas should be feeling quite comfortable going into the thrid place matchm i think they have the advantage, especially after watching the boys get owned by england.
but  the outcome of the NZ u2os and jrBoks is more important after i think about it, cos now were playing for sarugby.com bragging rights, so ,,,

GO NZ U20s TEAM!!!

BE
Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
19 Jun 2013, 10:37
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19 Jun 2013, 10:37#4

Well, Well, Well! What happened saSUE, Brycy, p000ooie, abnob, mooo la, Hahahahakwa, Poly, nuked kiwi et al???

This is getting embarrasing. First your senior sides get whipped by the poms and then the juniours suffer the same dismal fate. You are now fully owned by the Poms!! A fate worse than death!

At least we had the comfort on knowing Wales won on a ref error. It seems to me despite this side being inferior to our 2012 team we could have retained the title given we beat England first time round. Hard luck Baby Boks!

Why oh why do we still have to endure ref errors given the technology available????????????????????

But never mind kiwis better luck next time. Bwahhahahahahahaha

But some words of comfort for the shell shocked and battered kiwis. I really have little confidence in the Baby Boks. Those two props are diabolical. Hence its anybodys game for the bronze. Possibly the wee abs scrum is not much to shout about either? SH MUST realise that this is not good enough - there is NO excuse for poor technique.

I will watch the nz/ England game tonight.

Becs and Lady MO(NH) will be very pleased about this turn of events and I trust they will behave like ladies - with dignity and grace.  No chest beating please ladies - lady MO(NH) you in particular must know justice was not done. Wee abs can have no such complaint from what I gather.

Man this is hilarious. Ou brycy was all over us like a nasty rash yesterday. Will the oak recover and give us his views or will he remain in a puddle all week! Hahahahahahaha condolences Brycy me mate!! 

PE
poi-ePro1,044 posts
19 Jun 2013, 11:21
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19 Jun 2013, 11:21#5

 We lose to England once in 12 years and we're owned by England....by that logic that would make the Boks the AB's fully fledged man slaves...

SP
SpooonyClub Pro718 posts
19 Jun 2013, 11:45
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19 Jun 2013, 11:45#6

Poi-e 2 years in a row the NZ scrummed get owned. 2 years they did not win it. SA scrum was shyt got owned by everyone almost as well.

 

Lets see if they learn from previous mistakes next year.  

BE
Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
19 Jun 2013, 12:13
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19 Jun 2013, 12:13#7

pooooie lets be honest losing to both the poms seniors and juniors is an embarrassment to all concerned.

Have the poms found the formulae to beat the abs. I will be watching the game tonight but suspect the pom forwards did the trick as with the Poms senior side?

SH sides need to relearn the art of scrumming. This was a big wake up call. Things need to be rectified before the next WC lest the NH win it.

 

 

MO
MO(NH)Club Pro426 posts
19 Jun 2013, 12:51
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19 Jun 2013, 12:51#8

Beeno, no gloating from me. The try was given, my opinion is that the two better sides won on the day. The two games were very enjoyable and nice to see no divide between SH & NH rugby in this age group.

AL
allblacknblueClub Pro233 posts
19 Jun 2013, 13:01
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19 Jun 2013, 13:01#9

Well well well, NH getting their groove back it's been a long time coming but is actually a good sign going forward as for years the NH haven't been that competitve at all.

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Unlike ow bible basher bean I see it as them getting better rather than the SH getting worse and bean until the ab's play england again this year you can only say that that game was a one off so 'zip' it will you.

BE
Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
19 Jun 2013, 14:07
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19 Jun 2013, 14:07#10

Lady (MO(NH) I am painfully aware the try was given and that it was without any question a knock on. FACT.

Anyhow good luck in the finals!

abnob I guess the wee abs are all black n blue after that cloberring.  

Man you have to love the poms owing the wee abs like this.

Trust you will get over the disappointment abnob. Ou brycy is of course awol!

 

BL
bluebokPro3,977 posts
19 Jun 2013, 14:16
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19 Jun 2013, 14:16#11
Beans, you are not lekker in the head man! The baby AB's lost, BUT SO DID WE!! How do you figure you are somehow in a position to throw poo? I think the fact that the North has two teams in the final bodes well for rugby overall. The gap between the North ad the South has been too big for too long.
BE
Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
19 Jun 2013, 14:36
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19 Jun 2013, 14:36#12

Bluebok there is a very significant difference. We lost by one point and the Welsh were awarded a try where the ball was knocked on.

Also we have not lost against either the poms juniour or senior sides consequetively.

Also did you read ou brycy having a go at us in a most unfortunate manner!! I mean having been robbed of the  win he goes off like that!!

Finally please do not spoil my fun with  all your irrational comments.  

Even lady MO(NH) failed to front up and admit the Welsh did not score the try. All is forgotten - we won scream the welshies and no matter how. Ou rooitiwti must be in seventh heaven!

Anyhow Bluebok I trust you can now see some sense? You have to view things from a calm and clear perspective.

 

BL
bluebokPro3,977 posts
19 Jun 2013, 15:03
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19 Jun 2013, 15:03#13
I see where you are coming from.......way out left field!
SP
SpooonyClub Pro718 posts
19 Jun 2013, 15:15
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19 Jun 2013, 15:15#14

Must be left on Loftus cause Bulls supporters can't see past the gates of Loftus

RO
RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
19 Jun 2013, 15:21
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19 Jun 2013, 15:21#15

Now there's a surprise . . . Baboon-ou is blaming the ref for a loss!

 

Well done to both Wales and England. I wonder if some of the arrogant chest-thumpers who are always bashing the NH are feeling a bit foolish today?

PO
polyboyClub Pro601 posts
19 Jun 2013, 15:25
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19 Jun 2013, 15:25#16
Had a feeling this loss was coming, this years Baby Blacks didn't have the look of previous years, oh well time to move on. Beeno nice to see your consistent, that tunnel vision for AB/NZ rugby losses still operating at 100%, wouldn't expect less.
BE
Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
19 Jun 2013, 15:31
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19 Jun 2013, 15:31#17

Nope I think the guy most feeling foolish is the ref who awarded the knock on try and allowed the wrong side to make the finals

Enjoy the welsh win over the Boks rooiwelsh!

The other point you missed is folk here have generally been concerned abou this baby bok side. Poor scrumming. But all in all they did enough to win barring a ref mistake as also the match stats showed. FACTS.

What in the world does this change in world rankings!  ZIP. In your welshie fervour rooiwelsh dont get ahead yourself! 

SP
SpooonyClub Pro718 posts
19 Jun 2013, 15:35
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19 Jun 2013, 15:35#18

Beeno did you honestly think we deserved anything with that crock of shit forward pack? The Welsh deserved to go through. 

BE
Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
19 Jun 2013, 15:58
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19 Jun 2013, 15:58#19

Spoony the Boks were ahead in territory and possession stats. We goaled 3 out of 6 kicks, one hitting the upright and had a non try given against us. It was a very unfortunate loss. Any idea the welshies were so deserving is twaddle. The were gifted 7 points. Give us 7 points and we win by 6. QED

I fully concede that this side was not as good as last year but I think they deserved a win and would have won but for a ref error. Having won one can say with some confidence (Given their win over Engalnd) they would have retained the crown. Where would all the NH and rooitwelshes crowing be then?

No other conclusion is rationally possible. Empty heads will no doubt bleat on about "look at the scoreboard" as usual but facts are facts that score is incorrect.

Sure Spoony nothing can be done about it but to suggest they use the available technology to arrive at the correct answers - even if it means overiding the precious ref an his dignity.

End of Story!

SP
SpooonyClub Pro718 posts
19 Jun 2013, 16:06
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19 Jun 2013, 16:06#20

Beeno possesion and territory means nothing. It just tells you how crap we were in using it and how patheitic our goal kicking was. Pollard kicked like shit was played out of position and we paid for it. If we would have gone through we might stick with this bull of playing people out of position and fcking up youngsters. Bulls will probably keep doing but at least we hope Dawie get some sense into his head

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