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Official Bok Squad fo OZ/Tour

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sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,294 posts
26 Aug 2014, 13:34
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26 Aug 2014, 13:34#1

Springbok squad:

Forwards: Willem Alberts, Bakkies Botha, Schalk Brits, Marcell Coetzee, Lodewyk de Jager, Bismarck du Plessis, Jannie du Plessis, Eben Etzebeth, Francois Louw, Victor Matfield, Teboho Mohoje, Tendai Mtawarira, Trevor Nyakane, Gurthrö Steenkamp, Adriaan Strauss, Marcel van der Merwe, Duane Vermeulen.

Backs: Damian de Allende, Jean de Villiers (captain), Bryan Habana, Cornal Hendricks, Francois Hougaard, Patrick Lambie, Willie le Roux, Lwazi Mvovo, Ruan Pienaar, Handré Pollard, Cobus Reinach, Jan Serfontein, Morné Steyn.

sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,294 posts
26 Aug 2014, 13:35
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26 Aug 2014, 13:35#2
Juan Smith is given the boot. as is Warren Whitley. Fat Steenkamp still makes the trip as does useless Jannie. 
From this squad my starting team would be.
1. Beast2. Adrian Strauss3. Anyone except Jannie4. Ezetbeth5. Matfield6. Louw7. Stauss Cotzee 8. Vermuelen9. Hougaard10. Pollard11. Habana12. Delande13. Jean14. Hendriks15. Willie
Bismaark is not in form.Hougaard would at least keep the ball in hand more. Not sure if Fat Albert can keep the pace. If he starts he should only get one half.

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Gonzo the GreatClub Pro560 posts
26 Aug 2014, 13:40
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26 Aug 2014, 13:40#3
 shame about Juan he didnt really do anything wrong. in fact the few carries he had he carried strongly into very heavy traffic and had quick ball ready for pienaar. so i dont get that one at all. what the hell is bissie doing in there? has done stuffz all ya'll all year for the boks, just like the year before. lambie? come the frickk on now. what has he done in any position in his ENTIRE senior career? biatch puleez! reinach is desperate do something the fans want to see garbage just like the england series in 2012. only good thing is victor is back. 
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Gonzo the GreatClub Pro560 posts
26 Aug 2014, 13:45
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26 Aug 2014, 13:45#4
 sharkbok jean cant play 13 never could the guy was a tragedy there against england you want him to play new zealand there? good frikin luck! de allende has done well at 13 so to switch them around makes absolutely no sense. jean has to go. i think you mean coetzee at 7 right? we have no other tightheads.... unless BJ botha is still around. cj is passed it now. no other real options. better the devil you know, ya know?
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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
26 Aug 2014, 13:58
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26 Aug 2014, 13:58#5
 Very sorry to see Whitely go - he should have got game time against OZ. Mohoje should have gone.I am not sure you can write of Juan that easily but clearly Meyer was not happy. Juan was quiet I believe but where is the conviction re his ability.
We matfiled. Oh no!!! - let him go Meyer surely you realise what a disaster it would have been if the papest lock ever played against the Argies!!
Play Strauss and have Bissie on bench. A break might help. 
Sharkbok the loose trio combo is blatantly obvious. Louw, Vermuelen and Coetzee. Your number 7 cant have stauss.Does Meyer believe Guthro was the subject of illegal scrumming tactics?The only other player who can play tighthead is Marcell van der Merwe.
Gonzo could you pease revert baxck to Card and you would save yourself having to make all these spelling mistakes etc as a disguise which fools only the apprentice novice mole hunter JW!
The starting pack should be:Beast, Strauss and MarcellEtzebeth, LoodCoetzee, Vermulen and Louw.
End of story. Give Jannie and Bissie as little time on the field as possible given the  match situation. 
My backline would be Reinach, Morne, Habana. Allende (12) Jean, Hendricks and Willie.Pollard and Hougaard come on with 30 minutes to go with an attacking mindset. Meanwhile Morne looks after Reinach and Allende.



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Gonzo the GreatClub Pro560 posts
26 Aug 2014, 14:14
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26 Aug 2014, 14:14#6
 mate im not anyone but me can we just drop the mole kak its getting really old real fast.

reinach would basically be a step to play the aussies the way they want to play the game and that usually ends with us losing! play pienaar or hougaard or start with xiv men thats it. reinach doesnt have the tools yet to be a test #9. and god damn why lambie? he cant play in ANY position.
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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
26 Aug 2014, 14:25
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26 Aug 2014, 14:25#7
 Gonzou your views on Lambie are extreme. He will come back. He has a good head for the game and BMT plus talent. Pollard looks to be the future so where lambie fits in is becoming a question but he can cover Willie and the flyhlaf spot so that is useful.
Reinach at least has a go and can rip any defence with his pace. Pienaar and Morne are very paasive on attack. Look at Smith and Phipps. Both those scrummies have to be watched.
Pienaar kicks our ball away and with Morne doing the same the boks never develop a proper attacking mindset.
I like what Smal has done to change things up at the Stormers. Lions also playing nice balanced rugby. 

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Gonzo the GreatClub Pro560 posts
26 Aug 2014, 14:31
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26 Aug 2014, 14:31#8
 he will come back you say but he has never been there to begin with thats the point. the guys is a looozah!

mate you talk bull about morne. he never kicks ALL the ball away he just hardly gets quality ball when pienaar is around. and he is far from passve he is very quick to spot opportunities maybe we'd have more opportunities if dinosaur de villiers was finally exorcised out of the #12 jersey. you never talk about that proly coz your a wp nutjob. they are a bit wierd down the cape if you get my drift.
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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
26 Aug 2014, 15:06
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26 Aug 2014, 15:06#9

Typical Meyer......he selects Juan to start and then boots him from the squad in total. One would have to ask why Mohoje was not given the starting spot ahead of Juan originally and why on earth useless Steenkamp has been retained given he was shocking against the Argies.

 

While Juan was pretty bloody average, he was not nearly as insulting as Steenkamp was.......but hey ho he gets to stay in the squad.  

sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,294 posts
26 Aug 2014, 16:10
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26 Aug 2014, 16:10#10
 I would prefer to see Delande at 12 where he can use his offloading and general passing skills more. Jean has lots of experience at 13, Delande does not. The midfield defence is not looking great at the moment
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Gonzo the GreatClub Pro560 posts
26 Aug 2014, 16:13
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26 Aug 2014, 16:13#11
 jean has never played well at 13 not much credibility to thr experienced card on that one! better off with things the way they are.
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
26 Aug 2014, 16:25
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26 Aug 2014, 16:25#12
 The squad was discussed earlier and there is nothing really one can add.   There is some real weaknesses in that squad - and those includes the props.   Jannie and Steenkamp are both way past it and now we have Van der Merwe in there.   Why not the Lions props who scrummed better than any other props in Super 15?
Then the low work rate Alberts is insisted upon ahead of the high work rate Whiteley.   Bakkies Botha has done squat in any tests he played in since November 2013 - and he should not have been near the squad.

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