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Old dogs Carter, McCaw still vital to cause; Marc Hinton

Started by Just_win20 REPLIES245 VIEWS· 26 Jul 2014, 18:47
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JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
26 Jul 2014, 18:47
#1
26 Jul 2014, 18:47#1

New Zealand exhales. Turns out rumours of the decline of Richie McCaw and Daniel Carter have been greatly exaggerated.

McCaw and Carter both produced timely high-quality performances in Christchurch tonight as the Crusaders won through to their 11th - yes, 11th - Super Rugby final with a 38-6 dismantling of the Sharks. The Red 'n Blacks are now 80 minutes away from their eighth championship - but notably a first since 2008.

On a night when Kieran Read illuminated the big occasion with a stellar demonstration of his remarkable quality, and Fijian find of the year Nemani Nadolo was equally as destructive, the old soldiers McCaw and Carter were not a million miles off the standard set by the best player in the world.

With Read, this sort of stuff is as predictable as it is enjoyable. He is a colossus of the game completely at the peak of his powers. His every minute on the field these days is to be savoured.

Though, it must be said, after the troubles he's had with head knocks this year, and the subsequent impact that's had on his rhythm and confidence, it was reassuring - to no-one more than national coach Steve Hansen - to see the great No 8 thundering around wreaking havoc all over that Addington stadium.

In case you hadn't heard, there's a Bledisloe just three weeks away, and the sight of the supreme All Black powering back to his very best form would have cheered Hansen indeed.

But possibly even more heartening than the sight of Read back playing like a magnificent mix of Zinny Brooke and Buck Shelford, was confirmation that McCaw and Carter are also more than ready for the looming Rugby Championship. Both playing out of position, too.

And, really, there is a heck of a lot more doubt about the veteran duo - the most influential All Blacks of the last decade - than there is about Read who is in the prime of his rugby life. Their age, and their increasingly fallible bodies, assuredly dictates that.

There are some, even, who doubt their capabilities of being the players they need to be in a year's time when they bid to become the first All Blacks to win the World Cup on foreign soil.

But on the evidence of this their powers have declined only marginally. McCaw has had a stop-start season, but that big engine of his is now powering him perfectly. He may not have the brilliance of days of yore, but he remains a powerful influence with his strength, speed of thought and excellent decision-making.

He was all over the first half as the Crusaders took a grip on the semi; and kept going right until the end as the Sharks were dismantled. The move to No 6 was one he handled with aplomb.

And what about Carter? He's been a spectator pre-June as he completed a sabbatical designed to revive his flagging body, more than any sort of jaded mind. He, too, has been asked to play a spot out from his preferred one, and how he's built beautifully to form in such a short period.

When Carter takes on the line like this, you know his confidence is high. Throw in his tactical brilliance, sharp left boot and undimmed courage on defence and you have a fellow ready to step back in and run the All Black show.

Credit, too, to Crusaders coach Todd Blackadder. He's recognised he needs his great men back, but he has compromised by allowing their in-form stand-ins to remain as well. Matt Todd and Colin Slade remain key cogs in this red and black machine.

Carter at 12 and McCaw at 6? You can be sure Hansen enjoyed that as much as he did an emphatic return to their clinical best by his old side.

JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
26 Jul 2014, 18:51
#2
26 Jul 2014, 18:51#2
  The rave about McCaw should bring a smile to Cloudy's face and a frown to Beeno's
BE
Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
26 Jul 2014, 19:23
#3
26 Jul 2014, 19:23#3
 Not at all, I can only hope these three players are present when the Boks play the wee abs.  mcaaaw did a matfiled and got enormous credit for next to nothing. Carter was certainly NOTHING extraordinary at center and wee read got badly bent by a solitary tackle by winger JP.
HAHAHAHAHAHHAHA the kbbs are pinning their hopes on this dismal trio. Many thanks Sharks your very poor performance has done us a great service. 
BE
Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
26 Jul 2014, 19:27
#4
26 Jul 2014, 19:27#4
 Does wee Marc know anything about rugby?
JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
26 Jul 2014, 19:32
#5
26 Jul 2014, 19:32#5
Beeno: Shame SA teams could only manage to get one measly team into the finals. Of course the reasons/list of excuses is we ll documented.
Hope SA teams continue to lose and continue to perform a "service" to SA rugby. 
BE
Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
26 Jul 2014, 19:45
#6
26 Jul 2014, 19:45#6
 Well one doesnt want to lose as a service to the Boks but it's what has happened JW.Seldom have I read such delusional nonsense. This old guy is suffering from dementia 

Dont worry about the one measlie team in playoffs bit we should have three next year.  



BE
Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
26 Jul 2014, 19:50
#7
26 Jul 2014, 19:50#7
 I do hope the kbbs recover their pespective soon 
A pply some thought to their dumb comments 



JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
26 Jul 2014, 19:52
#8
26 Jul 2014, 19:52#8
Beeno: that "beeno diet" your wonderful wife has you on has reduced you down to a big mouth, two beady peepers & two scrawny legs, lol
               Beeno: Circa July 2014
                          
Disclaimer: "beeno diet" results in delusions & endless non-nonsensical blabbering.
BE
Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
26 Jul 2014, 21:02
#9
26 Jul 2014, 21:02#9
 Dont twist things JW that smiley applies to the author of the article and all accepting it.



JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
26 Jul 2014, 21:10
#10
26 Jul 2014, 21:10#10
Sorry Beeno, it was such a natural mistake. A case of mistaken identity, lol The similarity is striking, n'est-ce pas ?
MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
26 Jul 2014, 23:58
#11
26 Jul 2014, 23:58#11
Actually as a great supporter of oldies but goodies....McCaw eventually outplayed Coetzee, although it was close for a while .....but I thought Dan was adequate at best.
BE
Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
27 Jul 2014, 00:41
#12
27 Jul 2014, 00:41#12
 Hahahhahahaha wee mcaaaw outplayed Coezee. Very funny Moz.
Dan was adequate at best. More to the truth.Average is the word perhap s.
Read stepped inside to score and his groupies were in a swoon! They probably swooned again when JP flattened him. Hahahahahahahaha
Man the rebels would have looked good against the Sharks who were completely off.
Up your game JW - and its n'est pas please. Junior apprentice mole hunters should not be pretentious.

JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
27 Jul 2014, 01:23
#13
27 Jul 2014, 01:23#13
 Actually beeno, either form of the French expression is correct
"More to the truth.Avwerahe is the word perhas." not sure what you meant by that "English" sentence, lol
JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
28 Jul 2014, 15:00
#14
28 Jul 2014, 15:00#14
Cloudy: according to some scoreboard & points don't matter , lol 
BE
Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
28 Jul 2014, 15:15
#15
28 Jul 2014, 15:15#15
 Yes Cloudy bent read tripped over it.
BE
Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
28 Jul 2014, 15:19
#16
28 Jul 2014, 15:19#16
 The scoreboard gives no context Cloudy and JW. One has to go deeper. 




JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
28 Jul 2014, 15:25
#17
28 Jul 2014, 15:25#17

Very deep Beeno, keep digging, lol

BE
Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
28 Jul 2014, 15:29
#18
28 Jul 2014, 15:29#18
 The heading Jw should also have been  - vital to lost cause. Th ese old dogs are looking over the hill and there are a number of them. 
Teeth in glass stuff 

JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
28 Jul 2014, 17:59
#19
28 Jul 2014, 17:59#19

AB fans still have faith in the Bok old timers They may be toothless but we like them that way, lol

JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
29 Jul 2014, 09:00
#20
29 Jul 2014, 09:00#20
Cloudy clearing things up again with the facts, lol Well done 
I couldn't remember Reid getting taken out by JP but assumed I missed it.
BE
Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
29 Jul 2014, 11:40
#21
29 Jul 2014, 11:40#21
 I thought it was JP and demand conclusive evidence before changeing my mind.If however it was crotty then bent read is more f ragile than I thought given crotty is smaller than JP.Next
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