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Monkey D LuffyPro6,277 posts
11 Jan 2014, 19:21
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11 Jan 2014, 19:21#1

Tomás Lavanini signs for Racing Métro

Under 20 representative Tomás Lavanini follows Pablo Matera to Eu rope 20 year old Argentine second-rower Tomás Lavanini was named by Daniel Hourcade as one of four second-rowers in the Pumas touring squad to face England, Wales and Italy this month in Europe. After completing international duty the youngster from Hindú in Buenos Aires will remain in Europe to begin his professional career for Racing Métro in France. 
2013 has been quite a year for the Buenos Aires player. He played for Argentina in the IRB Junior World Championship in France only to then be named by Santiago Phelan in the greater squad for the Rugby Championship. With Patricio Albacete and Manuel Carizza both injured during the opening fixture in Soweto Phelan named Lavanini on the bench in cover for Julio Farías Cabello and Mariano Carizza. New coach Hourcade has maintained Lavanini in the squad and he left Argentina for England this weekend to fly to London with Hourcade and the Argentine based squad members.
Lavanini´s destination will be Racing Métro, the club which Manuel Carizza played for last season. he will link up with two other Pumas in the form of Juan Imhoff and Juan Martín Hernández. Lavanini is yet to play together for Argentina with either player. In his only appearance for Los Pumas to date he was a replacement second-rower in Mendoza in a test in which Hernández and Imhoff both missed out on play in due to injury. Lavanini could very well join Imhoff in the 23 to face England next Saturday in London.

Lavanini had been reported to be joining ther Hamilton based Chiefs franchise to play Super Rugby but was not included in the squad named last week. He had trained with the squad during the 2013 season but was not offered a contract as New Zealand teams continue to offer limited opportunities to players not eligible for the All Blacks. In joining a Top 14 club Lavanini is certain to develop and offers Argentina a genuine long term option similar to Pablo Matera who joined Leicester and Facundo Isa who joined Toulon.
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Monkey D LuffyPro6,277 posts
11 Jan 2014, 19:21
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11 Jan 2014, 19:21#2
after reading brycys thread about matt symons impressing at the chiefs, i had another look at the chiefs squad and noticed ole cruzs name tomas lavanini was not there.

i dont know if this is old news here, so my bad if it is.

very sad to hear ole cruz wont be rolling with the chiefs, i was looking forward to hearing some of his comments on the chiefs players.

i also dont like what the article here said,,,
"Lavanini had been reported to be joining ther Hamilton based Chiefs franchise to play Super Rugby but was not included in the squad named last week. He had trained with the squad during the 2013 season but was not offered a contract as New Zealand teams continue to offer limited opportunities to players not eligible for the All Blacks."
odd considering kane thomoson, asaeli tikrotuma, mahorni schwalger are all not eligible for the All Blacks, and matt symons who took over from ole cruzs spot is also english born, but he hasnt represented england at any level yet, so i guess he can be considered elgible for All Black selection.

anyways i wish ole cruz all the best at racing metro and hope he continues to give his two cents aka 5000 rand here on sarugby.com, :o)
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
11 Jan 2014, 19:45
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11 Jan 2014, 19:45#3

Sasue


Thanks for the info.   He should rather have played Super Rugby than join a club in France.   Carizza left Racing Metro to play for the Stormers in Super 15.   If Tomas knew the intentions of the Chiefs he should have tried instead for the Stormers - for I am sure with his SA conn ections he would have been offered a contract ahead of Carizza. 

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
11 Jan 2014, 19:45
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11 Jan 2014, 19:45#4

Sasue


Thanks for the info.   He should rather have played Super Rugby than join a club in France.   Carizza left Racing Metro to play for the Stormers in Super 15.   If Tomas knew the intentions of the Chiefs he should have tried instead for the Stormers - for I am sure with his SA conn ections he would have been offered a contract ahead of Carizza. 

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Monkey D LuffyPro6,277 posts
11 Jan 2014, 20:04
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11 Jan 2014, 20:04#5
@mikey,

i would love for olecruz to tell us what went on with his chiefs contract negotiations, hopefully he can shed some light on the matter in the near future if he should ever return.
u dont usualy have someone as much in the know with this type of info on a player of that level, :o)

regarding this comment,,,

"If Tomas knew the intentions of the Chiefs he should have tried instead for the Stormers - for I am sure with his SA connections he would have been offered a contract ahead of Carizza."
thats a big call brother mike, maybe in the future once ole cruz establishes as the pumas incumbent player.
if it were up to us sarugby.com olecruz fans, then of course we would select tomas over carizza, but other coaches might not be so sentimental with their selection policies, :o)
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RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
11 Jan 2014, 20:08
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11 Jan 2014, 20:08#6
Thanks for the update, Sasuke.
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generaltitPro3,164 posts
11 Jan 2014, 20:50
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11 Jan 2014, 20:50#7
 

Yes thanks Sas, I was going to open thread appealing to Tomas to come back and comment and update news as he seems a great guy and willing to share constructive inside knowledge that seems to be lacking on rugby forums. What struck me about him was his openness and honesty which is rare today.

 

Old Mike would have repeated the comment that no doubt he was enjoying his holiday with the lasses of Clifton over the Dec holidays which for a young man is some form of paradise…which is probably partly correct anyway.

 

However, I can understand the Chiefs decision to exclude a player that will play for Los Pumas soon and will not be eligible for their AB national squad anyway and don’t think Tomas would want that anyway, being Latin and proud of his Argentine heritage.

 

Be that as it may, he had a choice of either joining the Stormers or Sharks or any other SA franchise (or at least one presumes so) but being young his school of thought along with other rugger players is France is the place to go for many reasons…first of all it is a trend or mindset amongst professional players that the tom is good, the experience is wider and of course the other delights outside rugby that flit through the mind of a young man at this stage of life…also Tomas being Argentine with perhaps Italian background as his surname suggests hankers for the Latin style of life.

 

If you are reading this Tomas please share your thoughts as you have genuine friends and fans here that are interested in you.

 

We wish you all the best in your endeavours whatever way you choose.

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oimateyPro1,870 posts
12 Jan 2014, 04:15
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12 Jan 2014, 04:15#8
Sas - thx for update. Been wondering where he was. Still smile when I think of his sheepish grin during that TV interview he gave a link to. Seems a humble guy.

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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
12 Jan 2014, 08:49
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12 Jan 2014, 08:49#9
 Fine young man is Thomas and one wishes him the very best. He will be a Pumas regular very soon. Has a great rugby brain and will in due course no doubt captain the Pumas.Carizza and Etzebeth look a very adequate lock pairing for the Stormers.
Anyhow at least Thomas will be learning real forward play in the NH rather than wasting time in nz. I am sure the kiwis knowing this will be relieved for Thomas's sake that there has been this change in plans.
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Sun-TzuClub Pro713 posts
12 Jan 2014, 17:41
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12 Jan 2014, 17:41#10
 The Northern Hemisphere, particularly France, will be a far better place for hi to develop. Forward play is far more developed up North than Super rugby.
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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
12 Jan 2014, 18:09
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12 Jan 2014, 18:09#11
 The lad is a monster......2m and 125kg
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