BEBeeno1
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BEBeeno1Captain40,032 posts
22 Oct 2014, 12:08#3
Coenie was doing fine till his kneck injury. He was then moved to tighthead as it was thought that would place less strain on the kneck. However even when moving back to loosehead his scrumming has been sub par.
Be advised BB we will be well served by these young props barring injury and them departing these shores. Tell those oaks on Roar and enlighten them a bit.
BEBeeno1
Captain40,032 posts
BEBeeno1Captain40,032 posts
22 Oct 2014, 12:19#5
BB I dont know the medical reasons but can assure you those were given as the reason for his moving to tighthead. It's really very, very disappointing his scrumming went down like this. Love the way Coenie plays outside the scrum.
Perhaps he should move to the Lions and learn how to scrum. Os looks to be badly outdated as a scrum guru. Cheetahs scrum has also not been that good.
Stormers scrum with Kitshof, Liebenberg and Malherbe was going great guns.
BIbiltongbek
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BIbiltongbekClub Pro749 posts
22 Oct 2014, 12:22#6
Agree on OS, he has been a hero of mine for a long time, but the CHeetahs biggest weakness over the past few years have been their scrumming.
22 Oct 2014, 12:32#7
Thankfully Coenie is no longer in the picture.
There was never anything special about him at loosehead and let's face it, he was a complete and utter disaster at tighthead. It took Meyer an eternity to get to grips with this.
It just goes to show that the bigger lads aren't necessary the better ones. We're still looking for power and a skilled, talented scrummager in a prop.
Os was amazing. One in a million.
BEBeeno1
Captain40,032 posts
BEBeeno1Captain40,032 posts
22 Oct 2014, 12:33#8
I am totally intrigued by the scrumming of the Lions. Who is the scrum coach?Meyer should take note. Pieter De Villiers though has done a reasonable job and I do believe the Argies were scrumming illegally in Argentina as John Smit noted. Note also how OZ held their ground when playing them. Refs were tipped off it seems.
This is very important. We saw what scrum dominance did for the Lions. Why can't a big Bok pack not destroy the opposition. Obviously hainge wee matfiled 106 kg doesn't help but thereafter consult the Lions Meyer!
Lastly Alistair better start with the st ronger Kebble. He might hold his own. Will Cilliers do likewise. We shall see.