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Ollie Kebble and our young props

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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
22 Oct 2014, 11:56
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22 Oct 2014, 11:56#1

The young man is 22 amd weighs in at 124kg on the loosehead. He stopped the Bulle dead in their tracks at scrumtime. Drives the ball up pretty well.


It would appear that he and Du Toit are future Bok props:


Here are some details of our younger props:


Looseheads:

Kebble 22 and 124 kg

Kitshoff 22 (Note that) 120kg

Thomas Du Toit 19 and 120kg

Nyankane 25  118kg

Schalk van der Merwe 23 115kg


Tightheads:

Malherbe 23 124kg

Dreyer 24 115 kg

Redlinghys 25 114kg

Marcell van der Merwe 23 128kg (Per SA Rugby.net - official home of the Springboks)


Add in any other prop 25 and under who could play for the Boks. All in all a pretty healthy picture?







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biltongbekClub Pro749 posts
22 Oct 2014, 12:00
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22 Oct 2014, 12:00#2

 Healthy from the perspective that they are all young, not healthy if they don't step up.


We were all very excited about Co enie, and he has turned out to be rather k..k.


The only decent performance I have ever seen from him in the scrum was against France last year.

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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
22 Oct 2014, 12:08
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22 Oct 2014, 12:08#3
 Coenie was doing fine till his kneck injury. He was then moved to tighthead as it was thought that would place less strain on the kneck. However even when moving back to loosehead his scrumming has been sub par.
Be advised BB we will be well served by these young props barring injury and them departing these shores.  Tell those oaks on Roar and  enlighten them a bit. 
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biltongbekClub Pro749 posts
22 Oct 2014, 12:14
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22 Oct 2014, 12:14#4


Beano, I don't understand the rea soning that there is less stress on your neck playing tight head, I played loosehead, my son was playing loosehead and had been moved to tight head, because he is a solid 11 year old they decided he could be the answer at tighthead.


Having to scrum against kids much bigger than him he has been under much more pressure.


I told him there is no way he is going to play tight head next year.

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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
22 Oct 2014, 12:19
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22 Oct 2014, 12:19#5
 BB I dont know the medical reasons but can assure you those were given as the reason for his moving to tighthead. It's really very, very disappointing his scrumming went down like this. Love the way Coenie plays outside the scrum. 
Perhaps he should move to the Lions and learn how to scrum. Os looks to be badly outdated as a scrum guru. Cheetahs scrum has also not been that good.
Stormers scrum with Kitshof, Liebenberg and Malherbe was going great guns. 
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biltongbekClub Pro749 posts
22 Oct 2014, 12:22
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22 Oct 2014, 12:22#6
Agree on OS, he has been a hero of mine for a long time, but the CHeetahs biggest weakness over the past few years have been their scrumming.  
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CleanCutPro9,905 posts
22 Oct 2014, 12:32
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22 Oct 2014, 12:32#7
 
Thankfully Coenie is no longer in the picture.

There was never anything special about him at loosehead and let's face it, he was a complete and utter disaster at tighthead. It took Meyer an eternity to get to grips with this.

It just goes to show that the bigger lads aren't necessary the better ones. We're still looking for power and a skilled, talented scrummager in a prop.

Os was amazing. One in a million.
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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
22 Oct 2014, 12:33
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22 Oct 2014, 12:33#8
I am totally intrigued by the scrumming of the Lions. Who is the scrum coach?Meyer should take note. Pieter De Villiers though has done a reasonable job and I do believe the Argies were scrumming illegally in Argentina as John Smit noted. Note also how OZ held their ground when playing them. Refs were tipped off it seems.
This is very important. We saw what scrum dominance did for the Lions. Why can't a big Bok pack not destroy the opposition. Obviously hainge wee matfiled 106 kg doesn't help but thereafter consult the Lions Meyer!  
Lastly Alistair better start with the st ronger Kebble. He might hold his own. Will Cilliers do likewise. We shall see.
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