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One South African centre beat 12 tackles Saturday

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
06 Mar 2018, 00:23
#1
06 Mar 2018, 00:23#1
Here are his stats: XxxxxC 0 4 9 64 1 12 1 0 That reads 4 passes, 9 runs, 64 metres, 1clean break, 12 defenders beaten, 1 offload. Any guesses who that centre is?
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
06 Mar 2018, 00:35
#2
06 Mar 2018, 00:35#2

There  is no player who beat 12 defenders - so who could it be?   Another falsification of stats again?????????

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
06 Mar 2018, 01:28
#3
06 Mar 2018, 01:28#3
That's where you're wrong DCup.
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
06 Mar 2018, 01:53
#4
06 Mar 2018, 01:53#4

Mozart

Where did you find the stats?   Dreamed up sitting on a toilet? 

By the way we normally use  ESPN stats to make sure a uniform system is applied.   ESPN have no player beating 12 defenders.  

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
06 Mar 2018, 02:02
#5
06 Mar 2018, 02:02#5
Wrong again they are on ESPN....but keep blustering will you.
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
06 Mar 2018, 02:13
#6
06 Mar 2018, 02:13#6

Sorry I did not look at the Montpellier loss against one of he weakest sides in Top 14.   Losing against that team is just plain ridiculous.  

Yes and Fat Franie did the trick playing against a side which the South Western Districts and Paarl Boys High  will beat with ease,  

Not worth even mentioning that one on an adult site.   You must really be desperate to cone up with garbage like this,

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
06 Mar 2018, 02:42
#7
06 Mar 2018, 02:42#7
I thought that would be your angle. Well his direct opponent was Johan Sadie....who you described thus: Apr 13, 2014, 15:14 Shezza Johann Sadie was by a long way the best 13 we have seen on display this year in any SA franchise. He is a key player in the Cheetahs backline which on their own scored as many tries as the Sharks did in total and more than the Lions, Bulls and Stormers franchises scored. Unlike most of the other SA no 13 Centers he is playing a thinking game and that makes him different. What really surprised me is the progress he made at 13 playing for the Cheetahs - he went nowhere playing for the Bulls at 13 - so there must be something in his coaching and natural abilities that is coming through now. As I said previously - the Bulls is the graveyard for all centers. The sooner Engelbrecht and Serfontein get away from them - the better it would be for their careers. ' By the way Stepfontein who you now rate beat one tackle against these supposedly poor opponents.. Schplottt, Schplottt and Schplottt.......a three egg omelette.
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
06 Mar 2018, 02:57
#8
06 Mar 2018, 02:57#8

Do you have to go back to 2014 again to find something I wrote then about a player based on performance at the time.   However, it is likely that like some other players he deteriorated  since/

Losing against Agen - that is ridiculous and I LMAO - what a joke!!!!!!!!!  

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
06 Mar 2018, 07:22
#9
06 Mar 2018, 07:22#9
Stay down DCup, a fourth schplottt might be a new record. It's not just that you are wrong, it's that you are so belligerently wrong........that makes these belly flops of your's so funny.
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
06 Mar 2018, 07:43
#10
06 Mar 2018, 07:43#10

I am wrong about what?  That Montpellier being beaten by Agen is a joke?  LMAO  

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
06 Mar 2018, 07:49
#11
06 Mar 2018, 07:49#11
Yep wrong again .....Montpellier was playing with 14 men you ignorant coot, Hoeata being red carded in the 6th minute. You just can't resist a bit of smelly rooiaas can you? Hilarious! A record 4th Schplotttttt on one string!
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bluebokPro3,977 posts
06 Mar 2018, 08:03
#12
06 Mar 2018, 08:03#12
Hahaha! You two are something else!
Centre is a problem in SA at the moment, and it has been a problem for a long time. The last decent centre pair we had was JDV and Jaques Fourie. Since then it has been one flop after another.
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
06 Mar 2018, 08:23
#13
06 Mar 2018, 08:23#13

BB

So the future is Fat Fransie and Fat Fourie at center?   

Hard to comprehend that disaster.  LMAO,   The lard will be amazing - nothing else exp ect 

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bluebokPro3,977 posts
06 Mar 2018, 08:33
#14
06 Mar 2018, 08:33#14
Not at all Mike. I don't want either of them back in Bok colours again, but we have a huge issue with centres in SA at the moment. There are many almost there centres , but not one who is anything above average. There is a bit of potential around, for example, I like the idea of Pollard at 12. But at this point, there is no world beater in SA at either 12 or 13.  
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
06 Mar 2018, 09:29
#15
06 Mar 2018, 09:29#15

BB  

We have serious backline problems  and those include the half Back pair and especially also the centers.

Jantjies and Cronje was part of the Springboks losers in 2017 and played a significant role in those losses.   I think that Jantjies proved that he cannot play international rugby - so the primary problem is at flyhalf and I would not weaken that position by moving Pollard to 12.   In this regard I think that Du Preez was not really up to standard against the Waratahs and that Willemse is at best a longer term candidate.  So to my mind robbing Peter to pay Paul is not an option in this case.

Our scrummies are also problematic at best.    I am not sure whether we really have the answer in that case and we would have to use the Super Rugby season to see whether there is in fact a solution in that case.  

Our potential centers are problematic and the best candidates would be from Van Rensburg, De Allende, Vorster, Odendaal, Am and Kriel.   At least De Allende and Kriel showed some life against the Crusaders and Hurricanes.   Although in essence good players on lower levels all have some limitations on international level.   The only thing I can suggest is to wait and see how the above perform throughout the Super Rugby season.  

I would rather the wings issue must also wait for clarity as Super Rugby progresses.

      

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
06 Mar 2018, 16:23
#16
06 Mar 2018, 16:23#16
Schplottt4 we only have problems because our coaches have persisted with two centres, Kriel and Allende, who will never succeed at test level. Players without bottle NEVER succeed at test no matter how many groupies think they are the answer.
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
06 Mar 2018, 18:29
#17
06 Mar 2018, 18:29#17

Did we have coaches?   The last two were duds and an insult to coaches to be called such.    

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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
07 Mar 2018, 13:45
#18
07 Mar 2018, 13:45#18

Hahahaahahhaahah ou maaaikie walk into a classic trap. 

Dr Moz neither Allende nor Kriel are as poor as you believe. Both have had good seasons thus far!

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
07 Mar 2018, 14:00
#19
07 Mar 2018, 14:00#19

Beeno

You fall into the idiot trap all the time - take some doing so, but it is apparent that as an idiot you love companions with your mental capacity    Have fun.       

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
07 Mar 2018, 14:00
#20
07 Mar 2018, 14:00#20

Beeno

You fall into the idiot trap all the time - take some doing so, but it is apparent that as an idiot you love companions with your mental capacity    Have fun.       

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
07 Mar 2018, 14:01
#21
07 Mar 2018, 14:01#21

Beeno

You fall into the idiot trap all the time - take some doing so, but it is apparent that as an idiot you love companions with your mental capacity    Have fun.       

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
07 Mar 2018, 14:01
#22
07 Mar 2018, 14:01#22

Beeno

You fall into the idiot trap all the time - take some doing so, but it is apparent that as an idiot you love companions with your mental capacity    Have fun.       

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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
07 Mar 2018, 17:39
#23
07 Mar 2018, 17:39#23

Seems ou maaaaikie keeps forgetting he has made a post. The lonely brain cell is backfiring!

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
07 Mar 2018, 17:48
#24
07 Mar 2018, 17:48#24

Broccoli Brain

I have a connection problem on the internet and messages are duplicated as a result.   

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
07 Mar 2018, 21:36
#25
07 Mar 2018, 21:36#25
DCup is still reeling after falling for a beautifully constructed Sting!!!! ...ala Paul Newman/Robert Redford. Lets me explain how it all went down. First you come across a piece of information which could power a good Sting!!! In this case Frans who so many despise, has beaten 12 tackles over the weekend....you have your bait. And of course you have your protagonist...DCup....who just hates Frans and who likes to think he is very informed. But who is actually mentally lazy so likely to shoot from the hip. The first move is to put out minimum info, but enough to attract the protagonist. Dcup is incensed I should claim a Saffa centre beat 12 tackles, when he thinks he knows that never happened. He bites.....big time. The next move is not to react too much, you just reaffirm your claim. DCup throws in the toilet hitting the insult button. You deflate him like a pricked balloon by saying the data is on ESPN. But you don't reveal anymore....knowing he will. He finds Frans to his horror but is forced to admit it.....thinking he can save the day by impugning the circumstances. He derides the opposition. Then you throw in a classical misdirection......you mention he was playing against Sadi and produce a DCup post lavishly praising Sadie. DCup sees a way out thinking that Sadie is the end game. He trashes the current Sadie and trashes Agen as an opponent, when you advise him to stay down he doubles down with more insults This is the classical Sting!!! moment. DCup has made every move you knew he was always going to make, including failing to look at the Match Stats. You reveal the key missing element, Frans was playing in a team of 14 men when he compiled those stats. Rising to the occasion. Just as he did when he led the 13 man Sharks to a victory away against the Saders. It's game over, the Sting!!! is perfect, it allows for no response except a simple no mas! But there is a little trailing after Sting!!! The silly bugger tries to justify his faux pas....as you also knew he would. LMAOFY!
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
07 Mar 2018, 22:06
#26
07 Mar 2018, 22:06#26

Frankly I am really not interested in what  Steyn did in a game agaibdt one of the weakest teams in France and then losing the game to boot.   Any SA franchise will beat Agen by a huge margin and the plyers will all be considered stars measured by your discussed above.

To be game, set and match -  Fat Fransie is to poor to play in any test match and that is a fact. LMAO     

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
07 Mar 2018, 22:16
#27
07 Mar 2018, 22:16#27
Oh I doubt that....if Montpellier who are 3 points clear at the top of the Orange table aren't able to beat Agen with 14 men, why would any SA franchize beat them 'by a huge margin' with 14 men. Schplottt 5, keep them coming.
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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
07 Mar 2018, 22:34
#28
07 Mar 2018, 22:34#28

A great sting Dr Moz one for the books. Devalued somewhat by the lack of class of the victim but nevertheless a very fine sting!

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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
07 Mar 2018, 22:34
#29
07 Mar 2018, 22:34#29

A great sting Dr Moz one for the books. Devalued somewhat by the lack of class of the victim but nevertheless a very fine sting!

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
07 Mar 2018, 22:46
#30
07 Mar 2018, 22:46#30
You are saying they played with 14 men in part of the game.   The SA teams will play with 14 menthe whole game and beat Agen by a huge margin    You have no idea about French Rugby and wrote yourself into a corner.   Ask your minion to skip off and stop making a fool of himself.  
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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
07 Mar 2018, 23:27
#31
07 Mar 2018, 23:27#31
A secure person would have had a good laugh, admitted they had been duped. I would have made light of the whole thing and everybody would have felt fine.
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
08 Mar 2018, 05:09
#32
08 Mar 2018, 05:09#32

Mozart

When it comes to Fat Fransie and rugby it is not a joke - it is much rather a tragedy.  It is tragic that a player who showed so much early promise turned into a real flop from a rugby perspective,    It is consequently not funny as a Sting would be - but you obviously think it is,   So enjoy it - even though I would rather cry than laugh.     

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
08 Mar 2018, 05:23
#33
08 Mar 2018, 05:23#33
Oh okay.
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