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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
02 Jul 2013, 00:54
#1
02 Jul 2013, 00:54#1
I'm looking for a bit of serious rugby analysis. Do you think you could talk us through your calculations, and extrapolations that led you to conclude the Mighty Cheetahs were going to beat the Stormers? Asseblief tog!
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ShezzaPro2,471 posts
02 Jul 2013, 02:39
#2
02 Jul 2013, 02:39#2

 Maybe you should start with the almighty Cheetahs beating the lowly Stormers in their first meeting!

CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
02 Jul 2013, 04:07
#3
02 Jul 2013, 04:07#3
Shezza Thanks for providing the answer to this rather ridiculous comments from Mozart. Besides - remember in Super 15 which the Cheetahs beat and against the Stormers lost - particularly the Rebels and add to that the Cheetahs beat the Reds with ease - the Stprmers beat them with great difficulty
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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
02 Jul 2013, 04:49
#4
02 Jul 2013, 04:49#4
No I'm afraid that dog wont hunt. That was an away game for the Stormers without many key players....so against the Stormers at home the OOM had to have something in mind. Or...maybe....just nothing in his mind....wehe!
CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
02 Jul 2013, 05:09
#5
02 Jul 2013, 05:09#5
Mozart And the Reds games????? Anyway "wehe" is for juveniles and you are past that stage I hope
MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
02 Jul 2013, 05:23
#6
02 Jul 2013, 05:23#6
You really had nothing to pin your hopes on did you? Out with it.
SH
ShezzaPro2,471 posts
02 Jul 2013, 05:54
#7
02 Jul 2013, 05:54#7

Also Mozart why don't you look at the current and past log standings before the last round, I do believe the Cheetahs are/were above the Stormers, so that in itself is a justifiable reason for a wrong prediction.

SP
SpooonyClub Pro718 posts
02 Jul 2013, 06:07
#8
02 Jul 2013, 06:07#8

But looking at  ranking table here

http://www.lassen.co.nz/s14tab.php

 

You ignored the entire history of the competition and based your prediction on a home game which the Cheetahs won by help of a last minute dodgy penalty

SH
ShezzaPro2,471 posts
02 Jul 2013, 06:13
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02 Jul 2013, 06:13#9

You need to learn that both sides in that match received dubious penalty and advantage calls that can be questioned, but the Cheetahs were better on the day we played better, wanted it more and completely deserved that win! Only a biased Stormers fan would question this, but I guess I am dealing with a one.  

MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
02 Jul 2013, 06:29
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02 Jul 2013, 06:29#10

Shazzam you have obviously forgotten the once in a lifetime snatch by Pretorius off Groom's boot. Unbelievable luck....nope the loss was a black swan event. But I gather you also picked the Cheetahs last Saturday...hahaha.

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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
02 Jul 2013, 10:33
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02 Jul 2013, 10:33#11

Cheaser ou maaikie said the Stormers had NO Chance. Now witth tears in my eyes I ask you was that reasonable. Hahahahahahahahahahahaha. I do trust you were not as daft as ou maaikie cheaser?

For the record the Cheetahs would noy have stood any chance at all against a full strength Stormers out - you can take that assessment as being entirely reasonable.

 

KA
KalaedFreddieClub Pro495 posts
02 Jul 2013, 10:45
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02 Jul 2013, 10:45#12

How much of picking a team to win is based on emotion?  I know when it comes to my team I am all emotion.  Man, they nearly beat the Bulls on the weekend (looking through my eyes).  At least they penetrated teh Bulls defense and scored some points - LOL they scored more points against the bulls than the cheetahs scored against the Stormers.. Hahahahaha.

 

Cheetahs are good but have had less disruption than the Stormers or Sharks in this season.  At one stage there were 14 players of the Stormers not available..

 

My prediction:  Cheetahs will go nowhere in the competition, Bulls may make the quater finals but that will be it.  Chiefs to win this year...or maybe that little team of Jake the Snake White..

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
02 Jul 2013, 10:47
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02 Jul 2013, 10:47#13
Mozart Forgot about Pretorius try - what about the once-in-a-lifetime penalty where the off-side players team got the penalty - against the defending team and let to a try by your pet? If Pretorius's try was a once-in-a-lifetime story the referees's decision to award a penalty to the offending side is really unique. Incidentally although not made public - the referee had not been used for 6 weeks after that incident not to referee any game at all. You know you are talking crap - so lets just forget about the coward - who always pretends to be wise after the fact.
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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
02 Jul 2013, 10:53
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02 Jul 2013, 10:53#14

 Fred the figures re the injuries were - 17 for the Stormers and 19 for the sharks.

Ou maaaike did you really say No chance - hahahahahhaha. Ya shoudl have stuck with your original 30 % prediction - I said it was too low you will recall. But that no chance bit!!!

Anyhow maybe it was emotion or whatever?

SP
SpooonyClub Pro718 posts
02 Jul 2013, 11:09
#15
02 Jul 2013, 11:09#15

I am not biased. Just a Stormers fan thank you very much 

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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
02 Jul 2013, 11:14
#16
02 Jul 2013, 11:14#16

 Me too!

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ShezzaPro2,471 posts
02 Jul 2013, 12:35
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02 Jul 2013, 12:35#17

 Well Beeno aka StormingED the fact the Stormers faces so many injuries only adds to reasoning with the thought of a Stormers loss. 

Mike took the words out of my mouth, try again Mozart. But there's another thing remember De Jong's first try, well Fourie knocked the ball on just before, so don't play the unlucky card.

Fred, well the Cheetahs have already improved drastically since last year that we've got no pint to prove re ability wise. The Kings on the other hand are going to face the relegation match against the Lions, so we'll see how that goes.

It's funny how Biased views and Stormers fans coincide, isn't it Spoony?

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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
02 Jul 2013, 12:53
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02 Jul 2013, 12:53#18

 "It's funny how Biased views and Stormers fans coincide, isn't it Spoony?"


Shezza, so its only Stormers fans or is it mostly Stormers fans that are biased? Or is it only on this site?
PS: Is your statement not bias in some way as well? Who do you support, Cheetahs?
CE
CeradynePro9,374 posts
02 Jul 2013, 13:12
#19
02 Jul 2013, 13:12#19

clevermike

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RE: OOm Maaik
July 02, 2013, 08:47:48

Mozart

Forgot about Pretorius try - what about the once-in-a-lifetime penalty where the off-side players team got the penalty - against the defending team and let to a try by your pet? If Pretorius's try was a once-in-a-lifetime story the referees's decision to award a penalty to the offending side is really unique. Incidentally although not made public - the referee had not been used for 6 weeks after that incident not to referee any game at all.

You know you are talking crap - so lets just forget about the coward - who always pretends to be wise after the fact.

 

A perfect example of ducking and diving and avoiding the issue. The question is not about who won by which margin due to which mistakes by what referee. The question was that you said that the Stormers had no chance of beating the Cheetahs. What happened? You are so good with massive explanations and lengthy essays when you spot something that you think that you have predicted correctly. How about a detailed analysis of what happened at Newlands last weekend and what went wrong....................... or right? LOL

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ShezzaPro2,471 posts
02 Jul 2013, 13:22
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02 Jul 2013, 13:22#20

 DdDrad, yes I'm a Cheetahs fan and I can already see where you're going to take this so beforehand I'll explain. None, more like the majority of Stormers fans are biased (eg Beeno aka StormingED and Spoon). I may be bias, but I'm not stupidly bias as the two mentioned, every loss the Cheetaha have had this year I've accepted and have barely questioned, I accepted the loss to Stormers on Saturday but what I haven't accepted is that people have come up with this idea that the Cheetahs had no chance whatsoever against the Stormers and that they're so untouchable. But when they lose its the refs fault or what not.

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bluebokPro3,977 posts
02 Jul 2013, 13:25
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02 Jul 2013, 13:25#21
Here are my reasons for calling a Cheetahs win; 1) Motivation to stay in the top six and a shot at a semi-final 2) They have played beyond what was expected from them for most of the year 3) Stormers are still battling injuries to key players 4) Cheetahs forwards have played well all year, loosies and front row. 5) Cheetahs should have had better continuity due to limited injuries 6) Stormers have the massively inconsistent Jantjes starting, could cost them the game all by himself 7) The hope that the underdog Cheetahs would continue their good form seen going into the incoming tour Yeah, not a completely stupid decision to back the CHeetahs, but still the wrong one. It happens, otherwise sports betting would cease to exist.
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CeradynePro9,374 posts
02 Jul 2013, 14:38
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02 Jul 2013, 14:38#22

I hear what you are saying bluebok, but our friend Maaik had one hell of a long essay again, IIRC, about why the Stormers had no chance of beating teh Cheetahs. Now remember that I am a Bulls supporter and I am by no means excited that the Stormers won the game, forf obvious reasons. I, like Mozart, just find it intriguing that Maaik has not come up with another thesis explaining how and why he went wrong with his prediction.

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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
02 Jul 2013, 15:32
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02 Jul 2013, 15:32#23

 Cheaser please! It was ou maaaikie who said that the Mighty Stormers had no chance. If he had stuck to his original 30 % prediction he may have got away with that.So you cant say we were all arrogant etc.

By the way our 17 injuries are not an excuse and neither are the sharks 19 - just facts - something I am partial too!

I see Kolisi is now out for 6 weeks! 

However ou maaaikie is our resident fantasy rugby champ so he will be quite pleased with his predictions thus far even though he came rather short with this one - as always he should make a pointof always paying close attention to what Beeno says. Bwhahahhaahahhahaha

MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
02 Jul 2013, 16:35
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02 Jul 2013, 16:35#24
Shazzam here's the thing......I certainly didn't think the Cheetahs had no chance....as somebody who likes to dabble with probabilities, I would never have taken that position. But the good OOm said the STORMERS had no chance. So I presume if you were incensed with the idea that STORMERS fans MIGHT say the Cheetahs had no chance....we are still looking for an example of this.....you would definitely be contemptuous of a CHEETAHS fan ie OOm Maaik, who said the Stormers have no chance. - I trust that is clear.
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ShezzaPro2,471 posts
02 Jul 2013, 17:38
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02 Jul 2013, 17:38#25

 Beeno aka StormingED, I'm not saying that they're an excuse but another measuring factor for someone who has made a prediction beforehand.

Well seeing as Mike supports the Sharks I find it hard to be scornful towards him.

CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
02 Jul 2013, 20:03
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02 Jul 2013, 20:03#26
Ceradyne I have written extensively elsewhere about the poor performances of returning players from the Springbok squad - so that has gone straight past you and Mozart. So let me put it bluntly in what I said before:- * All of Adriaanse, Oosthuizen and Nykanae did not carry their previous good form through to the gae and was disappointing * Strauss was harmless and even his line out throw ins were inaccurate. * Despite everything else written by the doltish Mozart - the only loosie that did his job for the Cheetahs was Labuschagne - both in defence and line outs was Labushagne - the other two was not really showing their previous form in this game. * Van Zyl was hugely disappointing and so was Le Roux. * The rest of the Cheetahs backline was not up to standard On the Stormers side - the scrumming was better than the Cheetahs - Etzebeth was good in tight play - Kolisi had the best game he ever had and Fourie outplayed Brussow comprehensively Any further explanations needed?
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
02 Jul 2013, 20:03
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02 Jul 2013, 20:03#27
Ceradyne I have written extensively elsewhere about the poor performances of returning players from the Springbok squad - so that has gone straight past you and Mozart. So let me put it bluntly in what I said before:- * All of Adriaanse, Oosthuizen and Nykanae did not carry their previous good form through to the gae and was disappointing * Strauss was harmless and even his line out throw ins were inaccurate. * Despite everything else written by the doltish Mozart - the only loosie that did his job for the Cheetahs was Labuschagne - both in defence and line outs was Labushagne - the other two was not really showing their previous form in this game. * Van Zyl was hugely disappointing and so was Le Roux. * The rest of the Cheetahs backline was not up to standard On the Stormers side - the scrumming was better than the Cheetahs - Etzebeth was good in tight play - Kolisi had the best game he ever had and Fourie outplayed Brussow comprehensively Any further explanations needed?
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CeradynePro9,374 posts
02 Jul 2013, 20:54
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02 Jul 2013, 20:54#28

Ohhh I see. So it was hidden away in some general essay, to make sure the egg does not show too much. LOL

CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
02 Jul 2013, 21:15
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02 Jul 2013, 21:15#29
Ceradyne What the hell else do you want? Me knocking my head on the ground 99 times - like happened in kowtowing to the Chinese Emperors of old? The problem here is that some people are prepared to stick out their heads and make predictions about games and how they see the issues impacting on the outcome thereof. Others are COWARDS who so not do anything like that and then are wise after the fact. ARE YOU A COWARD AS WELL?????
CE
CeradynePro9,374 posts
02 Jul 2013, 21:48
#30
02 Jul 2013, 21:48#30

Calm down ou Maaikie, calm down.

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RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
02 Jul 2013, 21:55
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02 Jul 2013, 21:55#31

Spot on ou Maaik. Ask these loud-mouthed tossers to show you the predictions they made before they start squealing about yours. At least you had the guts to make a prediction.

 

Oh and you'd better make sure the resident board liar understands that you're talking about predictions rather than postdictions . . . the pompous old buffoon does struggle to differentiate between the two.

 

 

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
02 Jul 2013, 23:12
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02 Jul 2013, 23:12#32
I can't remember asking you chaps to make your laughable predictions....you act like its a requirement or some kind of public service. Mostly it has no value....except for the AAS whose predictions are an infallible contrary indicator. These painful predictions, by fools who can't tell right foot from the one in their mouths, are tiresome. - Stop predicting ....stop eating egg....the relationship is obvious.
CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
02 Jul 2013, 23:36
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02 Jul 2013, 23:36#33
Mozart Nobody - especially not you - asked us to make predictions on the Board - you are right in that. However, if somebody is too cowardly to make predictions - then he has no right to criticize predictions of others after the fact. You may have legitimate criticism of predictions - but it is a one-way street if you make none and then shout and scream about other people's comments on the issue after the games. If that happens again my only comment afterwards will be one word - COWARD.
MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
03 Jul 2013, 00:14
#34
03 Jul 2013, 00:14#34
Yes we do have a right to criticize.....when your whole emphasis is negative, gloating predictions against the Stormers.....and then you are so stupid as to predict they can't beat the Cheetahs at Newlands.You thought you were being smart, and you ended up looking like a fool, stop trying to pretend you were just rationally predicting . You were sticking it to the Stormers fans and ended up sticking it to yourself. If you had any decency you would just accept that truth and slink away.
CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
03 Jul 2013, 00:42
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03 Jul 2013, 00:42#35
Mozart COWARD - COWARDS slink away - time for you to sllink away
MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
03 Jul 2013, 00:48
#36
03 Jul 2013, 00:48#36
Make up your mind...is it "slick away" or "sllink away" (sic)........hahahaha.
CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
03 Jul 2013, 01:06
#37
03 Jul 2013, 01:06#37
Mozart COWARD - corrected my typo - so slink away, coward
MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
03 Jul 2013, 02:04
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03 Jul 2013, 02:04#38
Don't see how "slick away" can be a typo....but "sllink away" is.....correct it.
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